Anchored text newbie - help!

Hello all ... I am beginning to explore the possibilities using anchored text. I lay out a range of self-help books containing quotes which are cut and pasted into a separate text box in the margin of each page. Firstly this is time consuming and secondly, the text does not move with the page it is intended to accompany when larger changes are made to the body text. I'm certain anchored text is what I need and I've had a little experimentation with the anchored text option (CS2), seeing that there is an option to include certain styles. The quotes are in two styles (Quote and Quote author, to appear directly below). A sample page is below - the text intended to appear in the side margin, away from the spine depending on which side it appears on, is the larger text. Can anyone explain how I can begin to achieve this? Will I be able to set up the anchored style in the master document, so it applies it to this style automatically, and more importantly, will it achieve the desired effect and move the text around automatically?
Many thanks for any help.

Interesting ... this brings up a whole host of other options (including para styles and anchored text, so I'm guessing it's well on t
rack to doing what I want) but as yet I've not managed to get anything to auto-flow into those margins yet...

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I see that this question was asked previously but not answered:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3737541
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