Animation CoDec to DVNSTC Frame Dimension Challenge

I have 3 videos that I need to edit together. They were provided to me as QuickTime files using the animation codec.
A is 640x480 Apple Lossless codec.
B is 720x486 using Animation codec.
C under the format says the following "Format: None, 720x480 (648x480), Millions 16-bit integer (Bid Endian), Stereo, 48.000kHz"
How do I get all of these videos into the same DVNTSC 4:3 timeline without either videos A,B, or C getting stretched or squished?
Thanks,
Mike

Have you tried? 640x480 is square pixels, and 720x480 and 720x486 are rectangular pixels. The rectangular pixel ones should look fine. The 640x480 one might have to be resized or adjusted to fit.
Shane

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Turn the warning off:
Go to the menu Final Cut Pro > User Preferences and on the General Pane, uncheck the Report dropped frames during playback box. Then click OK.
The warning only alerts you that FCP can't call up and display the frames fast enough to play in real time, so it is dropping frames - during playback.
When you are done editing, you will export the finished file from FCP into the deliverable format you want, during that process every frame of your timeline will be added to the exported file.
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paul

Hi,
I'm also having trouble with this same issue. I've been trying to change the Quicktime Default Setting to 10-bit uncompressed (btw codec works fine out directly out of QT and other apps), or to use the command line to do quick renders of tiff frame sequences to QT 10-bit. I think its a problem with my syntax on the command line. As per the manual I set up a fileout in a script with 10-bit as the codec, opened the script in Textedit and followed the instructions on p393, and dropped it into the include/startup directory. Below is a copy of the Textedit view of the script output settings. Also, If I want to use these settings the command line what should I change? The quotation marks, commas etc?
"QuickTime", "Shake 3 QT 1", "Apple FCP Uncompressed 10-bit 4:2:2",
0, "100W@c6000WDcsuHpoe10pFnKA6W230PPMMRH#0LgfI5ALV1EaKGn3DG3214QaPb03SeOBPg00K1bY AESIIW0KAbabF7YWOQan8401v6QvQehFnRYIBt9be1B4AEjYA6ci8YmM#IKXCg5aRMZC2MXBM0Ani04w HAJLmBrQ97MtegeEEO9d5oBoxCgv7GNhEOvai8INwFwb2roIf91bvbr040HAK4IYCW0",
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Hi,
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"Black?" That's not right.
But, yes, Motion's use of the GPU is a huge benefit when processing alphas. FCP simply doesn't have the hooks. Yet. Maybe today's announcements form Macworld will change that?
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[IMG]http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb441/cksearle/Picture3.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb441/cksearle/Picture2.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb441/cksearle/Picture1.png[/IMG]

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I only use the converter so I can view my work on an external monitor. Sounds like this is limiting my options?
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I have used After Effects to do a green screen key on some HD 1080i footage.
I then went to export - quicktime movie - animation
I understand that the animation codec is the only way to export with an alpha channel so that I can put other footage in after my nice green screen key.
I set quality to best and frame rate to 25, I also tried frame rate as current and it exports and plays back fine in quicktime movie player, but won't import into final Cut.
The error message is "wrong frame rate"
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2. Do not use the "export" command in AE... that is used only for special purposes only (i.e. for using "quicktime exporto compnents" not available under the export queue)...
3. use the "make movie" or "add to export queue" command instead
4. You expot module should be set as:
- best settings
- animation + alpha
do not specify any frame rate in the export module!! AE automatically uses the frame rate in your composition settings!!
5. Export and import into fcp...
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I'm currently having a problem rendering out a composition. The composition is roughly 4000 frames (HD 720p60). I rendering out the scene using quicktime, using the animation codec and if I render out the whole sequence the file size seems to stop growing at 2.15GB and the file is unrecognized by Quicktime; says it's not a movie. If I make a smaller subset of the same composition; say frames 1-1000, the file is about 1.99GB in size and will play in Quicktime.
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Is there a limitation in CS5 AfterEffects that doesn't allow for files greater than 2.15GB. If so, it's going to really mess up my workflow. By the way, I'm running this on a 2 x 2.93 Quad-core Intel Xeon; 16GB Ram, NVIDIA Quadro FX 4800. Running AE in 64-bit mode.
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APPLE - ***??!?!?!?!?
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Well, I don't understand this any more than when I posted, but it seems that it's the Animation codec that is the culprit. If I export using DV, there's no problem conforming to 24. Anyone have any ideas why that might be the case?

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I use the Animation codec a lot as it's a good fit for my workflow.
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iMovie will import them without a glitch, they will play perfectly inside iMovie's preview window but when I export the movie, all the Animation-encoded clips will not be rendered. I still have audio, titles and others clips encoded with different codecs but all the Animation part are pitch black.
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iMovie will import them without a glitch, they will play perfectly inside iMovie's preview window but when I export the movie, all the Animation-encoded clips will not be rendered. I still have audio, titles and others clips encoded with different codecs but all the Animation part are pitch black.
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Ave. Data Rate: 38824 k/sec.
Frame Size: 720 x 486
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The item properties are as above --< </div>
Um, no. The reason I asked was that you stated the "clip properties in the timeline are as follows" and that would, might, give us only the properties of the sequence, not the clip from the Browser.
We have some oddball issues here. The source was a PC Avid system. You didn't need to use Animation. Preserving "quality" when you're going out to DVD is wasted time and effort; keep your original Animation file but convert it to something you can use with more convenience. And, if we were looking over your shoulder this would be much easier.
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bogiesan
bogiesan

Animation to loop 60 frames in 24 hours

I want to create an animation to loop 60 frames in 24 hours and then pass on the following second day repere
(script) thank you for helping me

Sorry - bit sleepy when I last posted.
If you want to have the SAME loop week after week, use
on exitFrame me
   dString = the long date -- "Friday, 25 October 2013"
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The same is true when attempting to export stills from ProRes, even in the highest, most lossless formats. I am wondering if ProRes for PC is actually not quite ready for prime time? When I import a ProRes file into After Effects, I notice the same quality drop associated with trying to transcode it to a lossless format. It seems as though ONLY QT Pro has the capability to display ProRes files properly. If this is the case, this is largely useless, since I can't then USE these ProRes files for anything. What the heck guys? I wouldn't have had clients deliver me ProRes encoded stuff if I knew that it didn't actually maintain its integrity.
Please help out as soon as possible. Clients with deadlines are waiting on a solution that doesn't involve me spending 4000 grand on a new machine and FCP.

As a test, try nesting the problem sequence in a new empty sequence then export that new sequence using QuickTime. Let us know whether or not that succeeds.
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Eddie
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Videos encoded with Apple Animation Codec won't play properly in QT7.5

Quick Time version I have installed is 7.5 (149.5). I also have Perian 1.1 and Mpeg2 codec for QT.
All of a sudden, all videos I render using Apple Animation Codec with alpha channel won't properly play in QuickTime, nor in Preview (when you click on .MOV file and press Space). They actually play, but colors are all screwed up and it looks like it's playing only alpha layer. I tried same movies on my work buddy's Mac and everything looks perfet. I also tried importing those videos into Flash, and everything works fine, but when I have to preview them in QT or using Finder's Preview, they look crazy. I can't send any screenshots since this thing happens on my work iMac (new aluminum one, Leopard 10.5.4, all updates installed) and I am at home now.
I tried reinstalling QT but to no avail, nothing changed. I've looked through Library/QuickTime subfolder, and only items I could find were QuickTimeMPEG2.component, Perian.component, ffmpeg.component, and AppleIntermediateCodec.component.
I'm slowly going crazy over here, because nothing I tried worked.
Is there any way of completely removing everything QT related and reinstalling it from the scratch ? Please help!
Thanks in advance!

Hah, found out what's the problem. It is not my computer, it is not my QuickTime got corrupt. It is QuickTime's bug decoding movie file encoded using following combination of settings:
Quick Time encoder
Compression Type: Animation
Depth: Millions of colors+ (alpha channel included)
Quality: Best
ParticleIllusion
Output options
Save Alpha - enabled
Remove Black bg from RBG channels - if this item is enabled, this is exactly what gives QT problems trying to encode it. I repeat, this option must be enabled in some cases (it removes that nasty black-dirt-looking extra halo glow around the object that already has some kind of glow applied to it). It makes your animation rendered with alpha channel a lot better looking and animation seamlessly blends with any kind of colored background. Well, QT has problems "reading" this format.
In the same time, if you import such animation rendered with this option enabled into Flash, everything looks perfectly fine. It's just QuickTime won't play it properly.
Every single Mac I checked has this same problem, and it's not Mac's problem, it is QuickTime problem.
I have two examples, you can see it yourself:
First one is when black bg is still present in RGB channels (animation looks exactly as it should):
http://www.sasha-z-creations.com/quicktime/Example_BlackPresent.mov
And second one is when black bg is removed from RGB channels (colors looks weird):
http://www.sasha-z-creations.com/quicktime/Example_BlackRemoved.mov
I repeat, both examples look exactly the same (great looking) when imported into Flash dev utility.
Cheers!

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