Annotations Supporting details

Hi All,
Can I know the difference between Annotations and supporting details??? Is annotations applicable on;y to accounts?? And is there any way that we can export annotations and supporting details to excel ? Please advice
Thanks in Advance

Hi,
Annotation , in very simple terms as Johngoodwin said are comments to accounts and they can be as simple plain text or URL.
Comign to the supporting details (these are the cells in the dataform which are green in colour, if you see any in your form). They have a built in calculator and altogether a different functionality
You can find all information about supporting details , in chapter 6 "working with supporting details" in hp_user document. Explanation with example has been provided.
Hope this info helps
Sandeep Reddy Enti
*HCC*
http://analytiks.blogspot.com

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Cell comment, Documentation, annotation and supporting detail.

Hi All,
I am actually new to 'Hyperion Planning'. I know what comment, documentation, annotation and supporting detail means. But, can anyone tell me 'WHEN' to use each of these.
Thanks

I like to think of the cell comments like post-it notes. If you use them sparingly, they're very useful. If you use them all the time (or use comments in every cell) it's unlikely that they will be as effective.
With regards attaching a document, I think the same can be said.
With regards supporting detail, it always strikes me that if you need more detail within a given cell, that the system should be accommodating this through component child members, rather than a mix of some cells containing supporting detail and others not. I understand that it's quite nice functionality to have though, and looks good when demo'ing.
I think the main take away from this is that every time you show the comments etc to people the first question you get is "Can you report all the comments for a given time period?" and the answer is of course unfortunately "Not easily using a supported method".
Just my thoughts...

Cell Comment and Supporting Detail with User ID

Hi,
I have created couple of SQL to generate the report on Cell Comments and Supporting detail from Planning repository tables 11.1.2.1.
This is working as expected Now I have additional requirement to provide the User information who added the cell comments or Supporting detail
Please let me know if anyone has this before - I wanted to know where the user information stored in these tables when someone entered cell comments
--Cell Text
SELECT
HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES.OBJECT_NAME AS Scenario,
HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES4.OBJECT_NAME AS Version,
HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES2.OBJECT_NAME AS Department,
HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES5.OBJECT_NAME AS YEAR,
HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES3.OBJECT_NAME AS Period,
HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES1.OBJECT_NAME AS Account,
HSP_CELL_NOTE.NOTE_ID,
HSP_CELL_NOTE_ITEM.CONTENTS
FROM HSP_CELL_NOTE
INNER JOIN HSP_CELL_NOTE_ITEM
ON HSP_CELL_NOTE.NOTE_ID = HSP_CELL_NOTE_ITEM.NOTE_ID
LEFT JOIN HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES
ON HSP_CELL_NOTE.DIM1 = HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES.OBJECT_ID
LEFT JOIN HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES1
ON HSP_CELL_NOTE.DIM2 = HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES1.OBJECT_ID
LEFT JOIN HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES2
ON HSP_CELL_NOTE.DIM3 = HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES2.OBJECT_ID
LEFT JOIN HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES3
ON HSP_CELL_NOTE.DIM4 = HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES3.OBJECT_ID
LEFT JOIN HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES4
ON HSP_CELL_NOTE.DIM5 = HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES4.OBJECT_ID
INNER JOIN HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES5
ON HSP_CELL_NOTE.DIM6 = HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES5.OBJECT_ID
--Supporting Detail
SELECT
HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES.OBJECT_NAME AS Scenario,
HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES4.OBJECT_NAME AS Version,
HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES2.OBJECT_NAME AS Department,
HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES5.OBJECT_NAME AS YEAR,
HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES3.OBJECT_NAME AS Period,
HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES1.OBJECT_NAME AS Account,
HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL_ITEM.LABEL,
HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL_ITEM.POSITION,
HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL_ITEM.OPERATOR,
HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL_ITEM.VALUE,
HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL.DETAIL_ID,
HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL_ITEM.GENERATION
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INNER JOIN HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL_ITEM
ON HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL.DETAIL_ID = HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL_ITEM.DETAIL_ID
LEFT JOIN HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES
ON HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL.DIM1 = HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES.OBJECT_ID
LEFT JOIN HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES1
ON HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL.DIM2 = HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES1.OBJECT_ID
LEFT JOIN HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES2
ON HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL.DIM3 = HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES2.OBJECT_ID
LEFT JOIN HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES3
ON HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL.DIM4 = HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES3.OBJECT_ID
LEFT JOIN HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES4
ON HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL.DIM5 = HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES4.OBJECT_ID
INNER JOIN HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES5
ON HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL.DIM6 = HSP_UNIQUE_NAMES5.OBJECT_ID
Regards,
KP

I like to think of the cell comments like post-it notes. If you use them sparingly, they're very useful. If you use them all the time (or use comments in every cell) it's unlikely that they will be as effective.
With regards attaching a document, I think the same can be said.
With regards supporting detail, it always strikes me that if you need more detail within a given cell, that the system should be accommodating this through component child members, rather than a mix of some cells containing supporting detail and others not. I understand that it's quite nice functionality to have though, and looks good when demo'ing.
I think the main take away from this is that every time you show the comments etc to people the first question you get is "Can you report all the comments for a given time period?" and the answer is of course unfortunately "Not easily using a supported method".
Just my thoughts...

Planning Application - Supporting Details

Hi,
We deleted around 4000 members from our planning application and later realised that the few members have budget values tagged to them and also supporting details are included for few of the members. Now we would like to bring back those members to our application. Could you please suggest the best method to bring back those members and the associated supporting details. We donot want to restore the entire the entire application. Is there a way to restore only that particular dimension and its members and the supporting details associated with them. If yes, could anyone of you let me know the process. Our relational DB is SQL 2005.
Request your help for the closure
Thanks,

Assuming you have a backup of your SQL database somewhere (this would be the Planning repository), the following code will extract Supporting Detail:
Supporting Detail
SELECT
     "Plan Type" = P.TYPE_NAME,
     "Scenario" = O1.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Account" = O2.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Entity" = O3.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Month" = O4.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Version" = O5.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Year" = O6.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Activities" = O7.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Employee" = O8.OBJECT_NAME,
     "Value" = I.VALUE,
     "Position" = I.POSITION,
     "Generation" = I.GENERATION,
     "Operator" = I.OPERATOR,
     "SD" = I.LABEL
FROM HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL D
     INNER JOIN HSP_PLAN_TYPE P
          ON D.PLAN_TYPE = P.PLAN_TYPE
     INNER JOIN HSP_COLUMN_DETAIL_ITEM I
          ON D.DETAIL_ID = I.DETAIL_ID
     INNER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O1
          ON D.DIM1 = O1.OBJECT_ID
     INNER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O2
          ON D.DIM2 = O2.OBJECT_ID
     INNER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O3
          ON D.DIM3 = O3.OBJECT_ID
     INNER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O4
          ON D.DIM4 = O4.OBJECT_ID
     INNER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O5
          ON D.DIM5 = O5.OBJECT_ID
     INNER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O6
          ON D.DIM6 = O6.OBJECT_ID
     LEFT OUTER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O7
          ON D.DIM7 = O7.OBJECT_ID
     LEFT OUTER JOIN HSP_OBJECT O8
          ON D.DIM8 = O8.OBJECT_IDYou'll want to modify it a bit to get it to work with your dimensions -- this is from an old project of mine.
I have never tried to write Supporting Detail back in -- I know it has been done, just not by me. I would tread very carefully and only do it on a test database and be really, really, really sure you've got everything working just so. You could easily blow up your data.
Another approach might be to restore that Planning app backup (making sure you made a backup of the current app), and then use LCM to export out Supporting detail, and then suck it back into the app that no longer has it.
^^^I like that idea a lot more even if it is a bit more tedious.
With either approach, you are going to have to sync the Essbase data to the SD data -- hopefully you have a good Essbase backup as well.
Regards,
Cameron Lackpour

Report on Supporting Details

Hi,
Our client has purchased a tool to load supporting details directly into Planning. This is to have the granularity of the cost details. Is there any way that we can generate a report of the supporting details. Will that be restricted to that particular combination or we can have a report of complete P&L where the accounts which have supporting details have also the list displayed below.
Can this view be possible? Please let me know.
Thanks,

hi,
For a data form ,which might be any report ( from business sense) can have supporting details ,which can be easily spotted in green colour.
For example , if its expense of some kind, and it has got supporting details , you can dig into its depth by looking into it to find it constituents ex: travel expense , hotel expense...etc.
Its like a in built calculator, and it does display list. Revert if you need any further info
Sandeep Reddy Enti
HCC
http://hyperionconsultancy.com/

Forcing use of Supporting Detail in Hyperion Planning data form

Hi everyone.
We're using Hyperion Planning 11.1.1.2 and for one particular data form, I'd like force users to HAVE TO use Supporting Detail on specific cells. I think there might be a way to do this using custom JavaScript functions and modifying the form code but I am wondering if there is a way to do this without code on the form. Any suggestions?
Thanks!

A quick simple example
function customCellEnterPre(row, col, cell) {
     if(row == 3 && col ==1)
          doSupportingDetail();
     return true;
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

ValidateData.js - Need to Force Supporting Detail

I am working on some custom JavaScript for a Hyperion Planning web input form where I need to force users to enter supporting detail. I understand how it's done in the SampleValidateData.js file, however that method will still allow a user to save non-supporting-detail values in a cell.
I would like to cycle through all editable cells and check a property on the cell to see if it contains supporting detail. (ex. by checking the tooltip value)
Does anyone know a specific property I can check on the cell (along with its corresponding value for supporting detail)?
Thanks,
- Jake

Found it. currentDataGrid.isSupporting[r][c]

Supporting detail disappeared and the could not edit

We have a planning app (v 11.1.2.2) and one user told me he entered some data into supporting detail for one cell. After he save it and the cell data became 0. And he could not edit that cell anymore. Tried to editing supporting edit for that cell brought back a blank page. I tried that cell and although the data is 0 and I could not update supporting detail either. It just brings a blank page for supporting detail. User can still enter and edit supporting details for other cells. I can think of a couple things to do:
1. Check the relational db and delete the supporting detail for that cell.
2. Restart Planning services to see if that fixes it.
But before I do that, I want to know if anyone of you encounter the same thing or not. And is there any other way to fix that.
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How to copy Supporting details using business rule

Is it possible to copy supporting details and attachment, cell text using business rules. We have Copy version option but i want to make it run using a script, is it possible, please suggest

The supporting detail is held in the planning relational tables and business rules are run against essbase, using a business rule you would probably have to create a custom CDF.
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

JavaScript:Modify Data form to expose multiple periods of Supporting Detail

Good Evening,
I am currently on a project that has a requirement that users can enter Supporting Detail for multiple periods, regardless of what intersection of data you enter.
I know that one approach is to not store the Supporting Detail in Hyperion Planning and just have Excel "store" the supporting detail and load the totals via SV VBA.
Example:
Detail 1
Detail 2
Detail 3
Total Amount (gets loaded into Essbase)
However, I went down the path of exploring different approaches aside from the one mentioned above and came up with creating a process of copying the SD via stored procedure in the Planning Tables as a second approach (although I know this isn't exactly best practice) or creating custom Java Script. I have seen the examples of "Forcing SD" on Data Form using Java Script, but is is possible to expose multiple months of Supporting Detail in a customized form?
Any thoughts/inputs/best approaches would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

A quick simple example
function customCellEnterPre(row, col, cell) {
     if(row == 3 && col ==1)
          doSupportingDetail();
     return true;
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

Smartview / Supporting Details Functionality / VBA Excel

Question Summary*: Within Excel, using VBA, is it possible to control the "*_Supporting Details_*" functionality (read / add / delete children, paste values command)?
Detail*:
--- Within Excel, using VBA, I am able to control the POV parameters using something like this:
X = HypSetPOV("Sheet1", "Entity#" & theE, "Project#" & theP)
where theE and theP are variables I've preassigned --- works flawlessly
--- Within Excel, using VBA, I am able to load / show the "*_Supporting Details_*" form using something like this:
Application.CommandBars(1).Controls("Hyperion").Controls("Supporting Details").Execute
I then manually (takes too long) enter data to the form in order to itemize --- within a specific GL expense account --- the budget line item.
--- Request: I have a pre-completed Excel worksheet with all the details. I want to be able to read / add / delete children within a specific line item (SUPPORTING DETAILS) using VBA.
Can someone provide a specific example?
I've tried using HypGetChildren, but is this the wrong method? From documentation, this method appears to be associated with member children, not* SUPPORTING DETAILS.
I'm using this for Supporting Details nodes (children and siblings) --- it is required that I enter "Supporting Details" children (can have anywhere from 1 to 20 children) for this GL expense item (row).
Here's my set-up...
Oracle Hyperion Smartview Version = _9.3.1.5.0.025_
MS Excel Version = _2003 (Service Pack 3)_
Declarations Made = _\SmartView\bin\smartview.bas_ (successfully able to use - call - these methods and functions)
Form Structure Row = One GL Expense Account (called "Meals Expense")
Form Structure Column = Twelve --- with each representing a month (Jan, Feb, Mar...)
Form Structure POV = Many --- and these are already set, I do not need help setting the POV programmatically
Thank you for your consideration and guidance.
Edited by: 888548 on Sep 29, 2011 8:36 AM
Edited by: 888548 on Sep 29, 2011 8:39 AM

Dear Mike,
Thanks so much for your quick response -- this helps a lot.
Follow-Up Question: Could a modified request be accomplished (as follows)?
Modified Request*: Rather than programatically reading / deleting child nodes within the Supporting Details form, is there a way to programatically add a child node and paste values within the Supporting Details form in the same fashion that I'm able to load / show the Supporting Details form.
Load / Show Supporting Details Form:
---- This works --> Application.CommandBars(1).Controls("Hyperion").Controls("Supporting Details").Execute*
Click on the Add Child button Programatically:
---- This does not work --> Application.CommandBars(1).Controls("Hyperion").Controls("Supporting Details/AddChild").Execute*
Click on the Paste Values button Programatically:
---- This does not work --> Application.CommandBars(1).Controls("Hyperion").Controls("Supporting Details/PasteValues").Execute*
Click on the OK button Programatically:
---- This does not work --> Application.CommandBars(1).Controls("Hyperion").Controls("Supporting Details/OK").Execute*
Thanks for your help and consideration.

Displaying Supporting Details in FR

hi expert,
is there any way to display Supporting details in fr horizontally ?? i want to display supporting detail just like a pivot...do you have some clue??
regrd,
tyo

Hi,
To show supporting detail for the Planning Details database connection:
1 Open a report and select a row in the grid that contains a member with supporting detail.
2 In the Row Properties sheet, select Display Supporting Details.
3 Specify whether to allow page breaks with the rows of supporting detail:
a) To allow a page break within the rows of supporting detail, select the Allow Page Break Within check box.
b) To keep the parent member and the supporting detail on the same page, deselect the Allow Page Break Within check box. If the supporting detail does not the currentpage, the parent member and supporting detail is moved to the next page.
Note: If the supporting detail spans multiple pages, this option defaults to Allow Page Break Within and page breaks are used.
4 Optional: To position the supporting detail before or after the parent member, select the Grid
Properties sheet, select the Position category and select an option in the Position of Supporting Detail
box:
a) To display supporting detail before the parent member, click Before Members.
b) To display supporting detail after the parent member, click After Members. This is the default.
Regards,
Vinit

Supporting Detail in Data Input Form

Hello,
I would like to ask except HSP_Object, hsp_column_detail and hsp_column_detail_item these 3 tables store data of Supporting detail, is there any other table store it? Because I would like to know which data input form contain supporting detail. I can't find it in these 3 tables.
Thanks

Hi,
Yes it is the tables :-
hsp_column_detail
hsp_column_detail_item item
hsp_object
that contain the information, have a look at the following post it should contain all the information you require :- Re: Recover Supporting Detail notes in Planning
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

Is there a way to upload Supporting Details into a cell in Planning?

Is there a way to upload Supporting Details in a cell in Planning from a couple of rows of data in Excel ?
We have a lot of supporting details in excel rows that we want to load into one cell in Planning Web form 11.1.1.3.
I know how to extract Supporting Details from Planning's RDBMS repository, but has anyone successfully reverse that process and update Planning's Supporting Detail Tables with data?

You can reverse the process of how you exported the information using SQL to import the new information.
I think you will need to restart the planning service for it to take effect, best to test it on a dev environment until you are comfortable with the SQL
Or you can use LCM, use LCM to export supporting details, then look at the xml document for the format.
You can then create your own XML document and use LCM to import it in.
I would probably try the LCM route first.
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

Forgot to check supporting detail box on Copy Process ... need workaround

We have rolled over our budget year via the Planning Copy Process (ver. 11.1.2.1). In the rush I did the copy without checking the copy supporting details box.
Users in the new budget have already made their adjustments to budget therefore I cannot rerun the copy process (or can I via exporting the existing data, do the copy then reimporting the new data?)
Looking for ideas/thoughts on how to roll-over the supporting detail.
JTS

John,
That worked but I accidentally duped a scenario twice. In supporting detail for that column's cells the detail lines show duplicate and in red in error.
I have removed the error and hit save and got the infamous 'An error has occurred check the log'
I tried to delete all supporting detail and still got the error.
Before going through Oracle I am thinking something on the SQL table is duplicate and thus needs to be trashed..
Just wanted to see if anyone else has accidentally loaded supporting detail into a scenario twice and what steps to resolve it
JTS

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