Annoying: hard disc "clicking" sound, APM

Hi.
I have recently purchased a new hard disk for my MacBook4,1 - a Seagate Momentus 7200.4 (Model: ST9500420AS). I made a clean install of Mac OS X 10.6 (putting the old disc aside), everything runs fine, but there's a random clicking sound from my new hdd that drives me crazy - even worse: sometimes there seems to be a small lag in program execution when this occurs (its hard to describe, the computer doesn't really "hang", but it's noticeable).
At first i thought the new drive was defective, but all S.M.A.R.T values were fine (except for one, i'll come to that), and the phenomenon vanishes when the hdd has something to do (copying large files etc.)
I searched the forums and found some clues that this noise is caused by the heads going into a parking position and the drive spinning down to save energy. Some S.M.A.R.T-values to point that out:
9 Power On Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old age Always - 112
139 Load Cycle Count 0x0032 096 096 000 Old age Always - 9442
This drive has done over 9k load cycles in 112 hrs, one every 43 seconds. As far as i know that's not supposed to happen. At least it's very annoying.
A discussion in this forum led me to the "hdapm"-tool (<http://mckinlay.net.nz/hdapm/>) which thankfully still works under 10.6. I've installed it as a startup daemon:
Sep 3 23:12:23 probe hdapm[50]: disk0: ST9500420AS
Sep 3 23:12:23 probe hdapm[50]: Setting APM level to 0xfe:
Sep 3 23:12:23 probe hdapm[50]: Success
and the problem disappears. At least as long i don't go on battery-power or back to power adapter.
Is there a "real" solution to this problem? This can't be right, right? Some energy-saving would be nice, but more like "after 5 Minutes of inactivity", not every 43 seconds.
P.S. "Put the hard disc(s) to sleep when possible" has no effect on this behavior.
Thanks!

Thanks for the info but what is an External Hard drive Enclosure?
Hello,
Welcome to the Discussions.
If you have an external hard drive enclosure you may
be able to salvage the files on it.
I had the same situation with my mother-in-laws iMac
a few months ago. I removed the HD and put it in the
freezer for 20-30 minutes and then into the external
enclosure. I recovered most of the data before it
quit working and then repeated the process to recover
the rest of the data. If the freezer doesn't do it,
try a warm (150˚F or so) oven. Once the data is
recovered, throw the drive away...it's dead.
John

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E. Try to download and install the latest version of iPod software and iTunes
http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/
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http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=7369
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Intermediate Level
A. Try to connect your iPod with another computer with the iPod updater pre-installed.
B. Still can’t see your iPod, put it in Disk Mode and connect with a computer, instead of doing a Restore on iPod Updater. Go and format the iPod instead.
For Mac computer
1. Open the disk utility, hope your iPod appears there (left hand side), highlight it
2. Go to Tab “Partition”, click either “Delete” or “Partition”, if fails, skip this step and go to 3
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4. Same as step 3, but open the “Security Options....” and choose “Zero Out Data” before click Erase. It will take 1 to 2 hours to complete.
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Open the iTunes 7 and click “Restore”
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Consider setting up a mail-in repair for your iPod http://depot.info.apple.com/ipod/
Or visit your local Apple Retail Store http://www.apple.com/retail/
In case your iPod is no longer covered by the warranty and you want to find a second repairing company, you can try iPodResQ at your own risk
http://www.ipodresq.com/index.php
Just in case that you are at the following situation
Your iPod warranty is expired
You don’t want to pay any service charges
You are prepared to buy a new one
You can’t accept the re-sell value of your broken iPod
Rather than leave your iPod as paper-weight or throw it away.
You can try the following, but again, only do it as your last resort and at your own risk.
Warning !!!! – It may or may not manage to solve your problem, and with a risk that you may further damage your iPod, which end up as an expensive paper weight or you need to pay more higher repairing cost. Therefore, please re-consider again whether you want to try the next level
Last Resort Level
1. . Disconnecting the Hard Drive and battery inside the iPod – Warning !! Your iPod warranty will be waived once you open the iPod.
In Hong Kong there are some electronic shops offering an iPod service for Sad iPod, the first thing they do is to open up the iPod’s case and disconnecting the battery and the Hard Drive from the main board of the iPod. Wait for 5-10 minutes and reconnecting them back. The reason behind which I can think of is to do a fully reset of a processor of the iPod. In case you want do it itself and you believe that you are good on fixing the electronics devices and have experience to deal with small bits of electronic parts, then you can read the following of how to open the iPod case for battery and HDD replacement (with Quicktimes)
http://eshop.macsales.com/tech_center/index.cfm?page=Video/directory.html
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http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2438774#2438774
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Exclamation point and folder and nothing else
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2831962#2831962
What should I do with my iPod? Send it or keep it?
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Sad Face on iPod for no apparent reason
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Meeting the Sad iPod icon
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Sad faced iPod, but my computer won’t recognize it?
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iPod Photo: unhappy icon + warranty question
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2233746#2233746
4th Gen iPod Users - are we all having the same problem?
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=2235623#2235623
Low Battery, and clicking sounds
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2237714#2237714
Sad faced iPod, but my computer won’t recognize it
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2242018#2242018
Sad iPod solution
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=412033&tstart=0
Re: try to restore ipod and it says "can't mount ipod"
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=443659&tstart=30
iPod making clicking noise and is frozen
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2420150#2420150
I am not suggesting that you should follow as well, but just read them as your reference. You are the person to make the call.
Finally, I read a fair comments from dwb, regarding of slapping the back of the iPod multiple times
Quote “This has been discussed numerous times as a 'fix'. It does work, at least for a while. In fact I remember using the same basic trick to revive Seagate and Quantam drives back in the mid to late 1980's. Why these tiny hard drives go bad I don't know - could be the actuator gets stuck in place or misaligned. Could be the platter gets stuck or the motor gets stuck. 'Stiction' was a problem for drives back in the 80's. Unfortunately the fix can cause damage to the platter so we temporarily fix one problem by creating another. But I know of two instances where a little slap onto the table revived the iPods and they are still worked a year or more later.”UnQuote

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