Another dual-SATA Firewire 400/800 case that is Leopard compatible?

Looks like OWC is out of stock for 9 days, and I need to get one sooner than that. I'm look for a non-RAID configuration allowing me to have two 500 GB SATA hard drives which I already have and place them inside a single case that has both Firewire 800 and 400 support? Any recommendations which are Leopard compatible? I'd prefer to spend under $200 USD.

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DVD DL fail to burn AND Firewire 400/800 problems

I have had several months of intermittent DVD burn fails. Most recently today burning from the finder and it is now reporting "The disc can’t be burned because because communication between the computer and the disc drive failed (error code 0x80020022)."
That error is new, previously it was always
Sense Key - Hardware Error
Sense Code - 0x03
The first time this cropped up was on 10.5.x and when I reported it to apple they had me take it to get the drive replaced since it was still covered by applecare.
After the DVD replacement and while still in the shop it burned a few DVD DLs ok. A few weeks later the same 0x03 errors. (it always burns CDs just fine)
After another phone conversation with applecare, they now suggest that the logic board needs to be replaced. (This was after I mentioned I frequently have problems with Firewire 400 or 800 external drives showing up...sometimes they work sometimes they don't. The same drives always show up when connected via USB)
I was walked through resetting the PRAM, which cleared up the Firewire 400/800 temporarily, but it did not help the DVD burn problem.
So on the eve before the appointment, this crazy MBP (2,2, 2.33 ghz) burns a DVD DL after blowing compressed air thru the DVD slot. But the second DVD DL fails to burn with the ""The disc can’t be burned because because communication between the computer and the disc drive failed (error code 0x80020022)."
I was hoping that the upgrade to 10.6.x would solve both issues, but not so much.
Anyone else with the DVD DL problem experiencing FW problems?

The problems with some external FW burners under SL are fairly common, Robert. With some earlier drives (like my Pioneer 109 in an external box) often one can't even "see" the drive at all (though the bridge in the external box will show up under System Profiler) through FW, though it works fine under USB. With some later ones things like PRAM resets, or simply disconnecting and reconnecting the drive, will get them working. See http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=10070281 or some discussion of these issues and possible "workarounds".
As far as the general disc burning issue goes, other things that are worth considering include problems with a "fullish" hard drive with fragmented free space, and the actual media being used. What brands of DVD have you tried?
DL discs, generally seem much more finicky about dust and dirt than single layer when it comes to burning (and , of course, need much more free HD space) . Will it burn a single layer DVD or a CD without problems?
Cheers
Rod

Migrating from mac pro to mac mini firewire 400 - 800 cant find computer

hi there
am trying to use migration assistant to move from old mac pro to new mac mini using firewire 400 - 800 cable but one computer cant see the other - any ideas anyone? have lots of large files so don't want to use wifi
cheers
Maria

Did t d this?
Make sure both computers are connected via FireWire or ThunderBolt before starting. If you connect the cables after Migration Assistant is already running, the source computer may not be properly detected.
Restart the source (original) Mac while pressing and holding the "T" key.
You can use ethernet too:
Make sure that the source Mac and target Macs are connected to the same network, either wirelessly or via Ethernet. (You can directly connect the two Macs via an Ethernet cable if both are Ethernet capable. To make MacBook Air Ethernet capable, connect using the Apple USB Ethernet Adapter.)
from:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4889

WARNING! Firewire 400/800 usage precaution of all Mac mini

I just found one vital notice about using FireWire 400/800 (IEEE 1394a/b) in any Mac mini. Please be careful and read this notice before you buy any External FireWire 400/800 Hard drive enclosure/paddock.
I believe in FireWire. FireWire is faster and more stable than USB 2.0/3.0. I love FireWire, but industry these days are terrible poor making its peripheral devices, related chips, etc.
Beware there are many FireWire devices such as 3.5 inches Hard drive Dock and enclosure they claimed to be used with FireWire 400 or even FireWire 800 with options like USB, eSATA. THESE ARE POOR PCB design and POOR chips inside and even POOR Power Supply, DO NOT BUY or USE THESE so-called FireWire HDD Dock or enclosure, it will hurt your Hard-drive definitely, it will make a lot of BAD-Axle (or bad sector) on your HDD. It's nothing wrong with Mac Mini FireWire Chips, it caused by Third-Parties' poor design and tactless attitude, there are lots of brands out there with the same POOR design and inconsiderate issues there.
The best way to protect your HDD is put them in a dock-able slot with Active 500W above Powered PC, link with FireWire, no Bad-Sector will occur.
These are real test and real experience from I myself.
I have tested lots of brands of 3.5 inches HDDs and docks and enclosures, I just save lots of time for you, if you love your data and your HDD, DO NOT USE THESE DOCK or Enclosure.

The big problem with those Docks or enclosures has a common poor cause, it's the Power Supply, if your 3.5 inches HDD is plugged in a Good 500W powered PC (Such as the brand Enermax Power Supply), the bad-sector will never happen. But it will happen when you use those Docks or Enclosures even with External Power supply. Because those external power current and voltage are not power enough, they didn't test it fully before putting them in market. They thought it was OK if they can boot up the disk, but they are dead wrong. You can boot a HDD doesn't mean the current and the voltage is power enough, it should have supplied with full power to those Standard 3.5 inches HDD, Seagate, Hitachi, Toshiba, they have rules about how many voltage and current a HDD should be supplied in operating, but those lousy industries didn't consider these rules, they thought just making their products as long as they can boot it up(power up), but the current and voltage is near the minimum level, a normal current and voltage is needed without margin, it should be at least full 5V or 12V, actually, 5V with 0.5A~1A current and 12V with fully 2A current to safely using a single HDD. But they didn't apply those rules.
You get the picture. When the current and voltage is not power enough, the HDD will sound alarm and make a big noise, then the surface gets hurt badly and it WILL NEVER be RECOVERED by any means of software or hardware.
When a HDD has a bad sector, it is a very bad for the future usage, because one bad sector could possibly cause another new bad sector and there is NO WAY to prevent this fate and its course, it is the way HDD works, a bad sector is a sign of short-life warning.
A fully 5.5V with 1A and 12V with 2A current is the most important thing when you decide to use your HDD in an external way by plug the lousy external power supply. NOT to mention those without external power supply, most of them are 2.5 inches USB-powered external HDD.
Who's to blame? blame to those lousy third-party industries who care nothing but their short term profit strategy. They just don't care about you. As long as a HDD could boot in the first place, they though it will work well. Lame and irresponsible.
DO NOT take chances to use a lousy External Dock or enclosure. You will regret anyway.
Put your 3.5 inches HDD into standard PC slot and cable with GOOD powered supply, at least 500 Watt above and the Power Supply must be Active model (expensive but worth).

FireWire 400&800 (IMAC Core2) NOT WORKING after Upgrading to SNOW LEOPARD!

My FireWire 400&800 (iMAC Core2) are *NOT WORKING* after Upgrading to SNOW LEOPARD!
Any Solutions?
Thanks!
--Frank Strallents
www.SHOCKPROOFX.com

I'll try your suggestions....Thanks!
Recently, I try to Re-install Snow Leopard, unfortunately, still unsuccessful.
The Mybook Icon only appears if it is connected via USB.
After using Firewire and getting used to the speed...USB 2.0 is like a Corvette racing a Veyron...lol
I am not upset on these issues, it is normal for new OS to have these problems...unfortunately, even OSX is not invincible.
I'm sure Apple/Steve is on every Programers A*s for a solution.
I still think APPLE'S OSX will still be the future of Operating system!
For now, still waiting for the patch and hopefully soon.
Suggestions are still Welcome for a Solutions:-)
Frank
SHOCKPROOFX.COM

External Harddrive ethernet vs Firewire 400/800

What would be better to invest in a ethernet harddrive or a firewire 400/800
I do need an external harddrive for video editing, mainly 1080i Hi-Def video as I have a Sony HVR A1 and am shooting hi-def.
Thanks
Justin
Durban South Africa

Firewire 800. Ethernet hard drives are very unlikely to provide an uninterrupted flow of video.
For what it's worth, your camera records HDV which has the same data rate as DV.
x

Firewire 400/800 Questions

Hello -
I recently upgraded to a new 24" iMac and noticed that there is only one firewire 400 port (as opposed to my previous G5 which had two.) In my old configuration I had an external drive connected to one of the firewire 400 ports and all of my peripherals (DV camera, card reader, etc.) in the other port.
Now that there is only one port, and I must daisychain with the hard drive, will I run into a problem when I try to import footage from the DV camera to that external firewire drive? From what I've read only one firewire device should be used at at time and this would obviously be using two.
I am considering buying a firewire 800 drive as a potential solution and wondered if it would, in fact, be a solution. Also, would a firewire 800 port be that much faster to notice a difference? If so, I might buy one anyway.
Thank you in advance for your responses and my apologies for not really knowing much about this stuff.

I have a Core Duo, so I have two FW 400 ports. Thus I'm answering this based on theory, not experience. FW 800 is supposed to support 400 Mbps connections. So you can use the 800 port by getting a cable that has an 800 connector on one end and a 400 on the other. You can definitely use more than one FW device at the same time. However they will share the bandwidth. If they are not designed well, they might possibly interfere, but that shouldn't happen.
A typical disk drive will deliver about 35 MB/sec. A FW 400 port can handle that. However I've seen some reviews suggesting that with the most recent fast drives (particularly the big ones that bundle several physical drives into one) you may see some performance advantages to FW 800.
A lot depends upon how you use the drive. If you copy one drive to another, or use large files, you'll get very high speeds. But in normal use, the drive spends most of its time moving the heads around, and you won't see much difference between FW 400 and 800.
I would be inclined to start by getting a FW 400 to 800 adapter cable and splitting devices across the two ports as you did before.

Firewire 400 & 800 not working together

I have two 800 firewire external drives connected to my Macbook Pro. They're plugged into wall outlets. I also have my DVCAM deck connected via a 400 firewire cable. If the 400 is connected, one or both of the 800s disappears and vice versa. How can I have both the 400 and the 800s connected at the same time? I must have them connected simultaneously.
Thanks,
miss2z

Okay. So, changing the FCP FW device didn't do anything noticeable right now. But I'm keeping it at that setting. I daisychained the old 400/800 drive to the 800 drives, using the 400 cable from my hub, which holds my printer and my deck, and the drive didn't like that--it didn't show up. So I plugged the deck directly into that drive, and voila! all three drives show up, and FCP is recognizing my deck. Great! Now I'm going to find out if there's room for another firewire card in the Macbook Pro. I'll let you know.
miss2z

CONFLICT BETWEEN FIREWIRE 400 & 800 BUSSES***

Happy New Year all...
My 1.67 Ghz Powerbook's external Firewire 800 drive will not mount if I have a device plugged into it's Firewire 400 port (in this case it's an EyeTV 500 box).
Is the use of these ports supposed to be an "either-or" situation, where you should not use both at once?
I have had success in the past with using both at once, but not now.
- thanks for any help.
Ted.

Sorry I can't help with your specific query as I have never used that Audio hardware.
I am a video man myself and went for the 24" 2.8Ghz iMac as i believe the Firewire 400 and 800 Buses are seperate. I know on older iMacs and even the MacPro the FW800 and 400 buses were on the same bus and when connecting a firewire video camera to the FW400 bus, the 800 would lower it's speed to 400 to accomodate or in some cases would lose the connection all together.
I currently have a FW800 Hard drive connected to the FW800 port and a video deck in the FW400 port and they both run at full speed 800/400 respectively.
This leads me to believe Apple have fixed the Firewire sharing problem.
I know it's no help but just though I would share my experience with the Firewire on the new iMac.

Firewire 400-800 compatibility

I have a macbook pro with firewire 400 port and want to go from my new Sony camera into a firewire 800 port on my lacie drive and connect that drive to my laptop via the firewire 400 port. Will that work?
yours, jim

You can get a FW 800 to 400 cable on the G-Tech website for about $20.
http://www.g-technology.com/products/Accessories.cfm
I'm sure they're also available elsewhere over there in America, but here in Winnipeg we've still got to ship them in!
Hope that helps,
Joni

Firewire 400/800 and Iomega connectivity in the Latest Mac Book Pro?

Hi,
I am awiting my Mac Book Pro to arrive. I have no experince with a Mac Book Pro.
I have a Mac version Iomega External Portable Hard Drive. This Iomega has USB2, Firewire 400 & Firewire 800 connectivity.
I do not think Firewire 400 or Firewire 800 cable came with my Iomega.
Is this Iomega connectable through Firewire 400 or Firewire 800 to a latest Mac Book pro? If so do I connect it to the Thunderbult port in my Mac Book Pro?
Is there especial cable avaiable for these purposes?
Regardsa

Connection is with the FW800 port using a FW800 to FW800
cable. The ones I've purchase came with USB and FW800
cables. The Thunderbolt port is only for Thunderbolt devices
or some displays via a Display Port adapter.
If for some reason you no longer have any cables, FW800 cables
are readily available either online or at any store that handles
Apple computers, and some that don't.

Has anyone use FireWire 400-800 cable to hook up their "old" FW400 devices?

Hello all.
Just wanna find out if anyone has started to use a FireWire 400 to 800 cable to hook up their existing FW400 external devices (like hard drives, etc) to the new Mac mini
Appreciate any feedback, performance. Thanks and cheers

Remember that the external iSight is a discontinued product and apple no longer support it. So they probably only gave the FW bus enough juice to power portable hardrives. Most other FW devices have their own power anyway.
I have seen this behaviour before with FW video capture devices. The manufacturers did not supply a psu with the device but there was a powersocket on the device should your mac not comfortably power the device you were expected to get a PSU or use a powered FW hub.

Firewire 400-800 with 24p footage

I have the new intel macbook pro with firewire 400 and am starting to capture from my v1u 24p HDV, will that be a bottleneck without firewire 800?

HDV, because of its highly compressed nature fits into the same bandwidth as DV, so no... FW400 is not a bottle neck for it...
Patrick

Audio Interfaces for Classical Music, Firewire 400/800?

In the near future I will be getting a new MacBook or MacBook Pro, and I am looking to record classical music (brass, solo and ensemble, chamber groups, etc). Is getting the Firewire 800 port necessary or recommended for hooking up to a good audio interface? I am a bit confused as to how the bus power works and whether it has to be a 400/800 port.
I am looking at a MOTU Traveler and a Fireface 800. Any other suggestions?

I have read and experienced lots of driver issues with the MOTU stuff lately as well as many of others.
I currently own both a M-Audio Firewire 410 and 1814 both are fantasic interfaces. Both are firewire 400 and bus powered.
I personally don't see a need for a interface at 800...I have had no problems with my interfaces at 400

Firewire 400 & 800 - compatability advice..

Hi
1. Can anyone tell me what kind of firewire port i have on my emac ? (see my details) ? ie 400 or 800 .
2. If 400, can i attach a cable to a firewire 800 port located on an external device ?
Sorry, i'm a bit confused about this subject..
didier

The Firewire port on all eMac models is FW400. FW400 and FW800 have very different physical plugs and the cable for one cannot be used to connect to the port of the other speed rating. I'm not awware of any FW400-FW800 cables, and I dont' recall enough of the Firewire or Mac specs to be able to say if such a connection would work with the FW800 device operating at FW400 speed. Then again, 20 seconds with Google turned up this link so 9-pin FireWire 800 to 6-pin FireWire 400 bilingual cables at least are available.

Another dual-SATA Firewire 400/800 case that is Leopard compatible?

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