Another K7N2 Delta reset issue

After having a good look through the forum today I believe this will be an all too familiar issue.
Recently purchased K7N2 Delta (not the ILSR) along with XP 2500 Barton and 512mb PC3200 Kingston RAM. Put all of the kit together with no real problems (apart from the frightening ammount of pressure I had to apply to the Aero 7 screwdriver clip to get it to lock onto the mount). Installed Windows XP Pro SP1 with no problems installed all of the updated drivers with the MSI update util and installed the most recent certified driver for the vid card from Nvidia homepage.
PC booted OK changed FSB to 166 in order to recognise the XP2500 installed MSI CPU monitoring software. CPU temp in BIOS around 38C, and from software approx 40C (idle). All looked great!
However, I then installed No One Lives Forever 2 set all the details to high (OK on my old PIII 700) and when I attepmted to run the game PC reset itself (as if the reset button has been pressed). Tried it again on low detail setting the game ran for a bit longer (approx 1 min) and then reset again.
An error is reported in the Event log (event ID 1003 source system error) I have checked this on Technet and it appears to be a generic hardware error.
So I think it may be 1 of 3 things.
1. Cr@p PSU (I will add the details below)
2. Dodgy/incompatible memory (I have heard that the Kingston can be a bit hit and miss with this chipset.
3. Overheating CPU. I was a little bit stingy when applying the Coolermaster Premium Thermal paste, but all of the monitors a reporting that the CPU is relatively cool.
Details of the PSU are as follows..
Eagle 350W. Mod DR-b350ATX (supplied with case)
+3.3v - 28a
+5v - 35a
+12v - 16a
-5v - 0.3a - 1.5w
-12v - 0.8a - 9.6w
+5vsb - 2a - 10w
I am leaning towards a weedy PSU but some advice would be great! Thankyou for your time.
IllPhil.

Right. Ive just checked the cooler and it appears to be mounted the right way round (clip on the outside of the Motherboard and looks flush with the cpu).
I did however change the FSB/DRAM ratio from By SPD to 1:1 and this appears to have done the trick. POST now reports 'DRAM clock for DDR 333' and NOLF2 loaded with highest detail settings and played without a hitch for about 1/2 hour. Also tested OK with BurnTest and 3dMark2003 (p!ss poor score of 1699 though but ill have to tinker with the driver and maybe overclock a bit to get that up). So it looks like you hit the nail on the head their Wonk. Could you recommend some stress testing software I could try so I can give it a good soak test?
Oh and I almost forgot the PSU combined wattage figures are 200w, 192w and 330w.
Thanks again.
IllPhil

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After resolving many issues I've got with my K7N2 Delta ILSR (I still have no regret because I choose it over Abit or Epox), there are still some problems I could not overcome:
1. the system cannot resume standby (it goes in S1 or S3, but hangs when resuming before any image appears on monitor)
2. at a freq when I have stability with default vcore, raising vcore is producing instability (system freeze when running prime95)
3. system temp reported by mbm -last version- seems high: 48-52 degrees; the proc temp is always 4 degrees -no more, no less- higher
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K7N2 Delta-L Issue

I Have this sistem:
AthlonXP 2600+ 333 Box
Coolermaster XDream HAC-V81
MSI K7N2 Delta-L
2x 256 Samsung DDR 400 Dual Chanel
ATI Radeon 9800 PRO
Sound Blaster Audigy Gamer
Gabinete Solid Tunning Black
http://www.casemall.com.br/solid_tuning.asp
Besides the original Fans I have a System Exaustor blower in the 3rd PCI slot just a bove The VGA Card.
my problem is: :O
Too High Temperature
My CPU is About 56º C and The MB 42º in the bios and PC Probe ! is that real ??? how can that be ? please I need a litle help here
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[email protected]
São Paulo - Brasil

Again though, I'm confused by people's comments. They are saying the Barton runs in the 30-40c range, but this simply is NOT true for the general populous (if you are using internal diode temperatures). If you are going to say that then there needs to be a distinction of some kind otherwise people are going to get confused. I realize it's a paradigm shift, but it has to be made. Otherwise you have tons of people (like in these forums) that freak when their monitoring software suddenly tells them they are in the 50-60c range (which for a barton chip with internal diode monitoring is perfectly normal and acceptible). Unfortunatly it was just sprung on us with no warning that the CPU temps are now an internal diode and not an external one.
For example, my system which is not OC'd, has a lapped copper HS and water cooling with many case fans, positive case pressure, etc is still running at 40c idle and up to 50c under a high graphical load. Under these circumstances, no one can say that I should be getting temps between 30 and 40C.
to hossmonkey,
Yes, that information is correct as far as the highest temperatures are concerned, but I wish they would come out with suggested operating temperatures as obviously higher temps consistantly will shorten the life of the chip and induce noise. Any idea if someone somewhere has a list like that?

Problem with K7N2 delta :booting issues

my k7n2 wont boot after being unplugged from power unless i reset the FSB jumpers to 100mhz mode. Also, it wont boot when I try to set the ram-FSB ratio different. It will not boot and I have to clear the CMOS to get it to work again. Please help

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Originally posted by bdjohnson
my k7n2 wont boot after being unplugged from power unless i reset the FSB jumpers to 100mhz mode. Also, it wont boot when I try to set the ram-FSB ratio different. It will not boot and I have to clear the CMOS to get it to work again. Please help
How about some info regarding what you are using in the system? We don't have the ability to peer into your office/home to see what's in your system...
If you read the sticky posts at the top of the forum first you may find that you might answer your question first...alternatively do a search regarding your problem and you may find posts that will help you to find answers as well...
Bonz

Yet another K7N2 DELTA-L prob

*sighs*
bought this board about 7 months ago, never had any probs... then out of the blue or blue screen of death i should say, my comp keeps resettings itself when playing cpu and graphic card intensive programs (battlefield 1942 being the best example)
I tested and retested the ram, memtest86 reported it as passing all tests over a 4 hour period.
ok so i tried changeing the ratio of the ram to 1.1 same result still crashes.
tried relaxing ram timings.... SAME PROB
tried the ram in every different slot same prob..... its A-DATA 512mb pc3200
what i find so odd is it has been functional for so long, so i came to the conclusin its NOT the ram...
mmkay so how about conflicting drivers? seemed reasonable to me.
tried messing with drivers, all of a sudden i seemed to have cured the problem...
then BHAM its back.... FFS
ive read that people with msi k7n2`s had been suffering similar probs so i thought to myself ok...
perhaps its the nforce drivers conflicting with something.
sometimes on the bsod i get a nv4_something or other driver error i dont remember bt i know it was a geforceFX friver file, so i figure perhaps its my geforcefx drivers, so i tried the drivers that came with my MSI geforce fx 5600 (256mb) still... same prob....
then i thought.... O.k so maybe i should up/lower my ram voltages etc... no luck there either, tried it on the agp card aswell no luck. (did the same with the timings aswell)
So.... if anyone has any ideas let me know please because im coming to the end of mt tether i came THIS close to putting my foot through the computer and im deadly serious....
frustration.

I forgot that bit after I saw Wonka's post recommending memtest and reading throught he rest...seems I was brainwashed
Subliminal mind erase technique, I'll have to remember that one
Well then seems like the PSU might be taking a dump on you...if it decides to let loose it could decide to wipe it's backside with the rest of your hardware....

K7N2 Delta ISLR and XP3200 Woes

Let me share some of my experience with random crashes and lock ups on my main system.
Hopefully some might find it helpful and others might have useful comments to add.
It all started when I decided to upgrade my system. I waited until new technology was announced and then went out and bought the hardware that was knocked off the top spot.
My current system is:
Althon XP3200 Barton
1Gig PC3200 (2x512M)
K7N2 Delta ISLR Bios 7.7
Radeon 9700pro
Antec TruePower 550W PSU
XP Professional
SATA 120G Barracuda
When I first assembled the system I could not, and still cannot, get it to run stable as a XP3200 with a FSB of 200MHz (400MHz) and the memory in dual channel mode. The system wouldn’t boot, would randomly crash, would come up with fatal XP errors.
So after consulting the message boards I was informed it was probably be down to two causes; a inadequate power supply or overheating.
That is when I went out and bought the Antec TruePower 550W PSU. The reason being the CPU temperature was around 47C - 52C (107F - 115F) with ambient around 35C (88F). Not too hot I thought.
Anyway this did not solve the problem so I then decided to change the CPU coolers. I now have a nice collection, Alaska, Aero, Gigabyte and others. Current one on order is SLK-900A with a delta FFB0912EHE fan. But again this did not solve the problem.
I then thought that maybe the ambient inside temperature was too high and therefore pushing the CPU temperature up. To solve this I fitted two hard-drive fans, four 80mm case fans and a PCI exhaust fan. This was on top of the 3 fans already in the system. Still the system would not run. I even took the side panel off and had a 6” mains fan blowing into the case. Still couldn’t make it stable.
I have just ordered a Thermaltake Wingo V8000A case.
So I decided to check out the XP3200 and memory. After playing around I found out that:
1. The memory is fine running dual channel at 400MHz. I ran memtest using my CPU and memory in a friends PC for 12 hours without any problems (Abit board).
2. The system is stable if I drop the FSB to the processor to 166MHz (333MHz). How I am currently run the machine.
3. The system was more stable if I ran the memory in single channel mode.
4. The point it becomes unstable is when the CPU FSB is 192MHz (384Mhz).
5. The problem occurs on another K7N2 Delta ISLR motherboard. Actually exactly the same problem running a different XP3200 and 1Gig.
I have tried all possible combinations in the bios, except Vcore, Vddim voltage levels. Which is my next step. I think I need to up the Vcore at higher frequencies as I believe it may be a bios /motherboard inherent problem.
I hope this might be helpful to some who are experiencing the sample problems.
Couple of things I don’t like about the mother generally a part from the fact I can’t set it up correctly.
1. The decoupling capacitors around the CPU socket are too close. This limits the choice of CPU coolers you can fit.
2. Motherboard components interfere / prevent you from fitting certain cards in the PCI slots. Such as the SPDF adapter that comes with the motherboard.
And does anyone know:
1. What is the maximum temperature I should be seeing for stable operation on a XP3200?
2. Any recommendations on another suitable motherboard? I basically spent all the money I had so if I can’t get it working I’ll bin the motherboard and buy another one.
Oh, why don't I run it at 333MHz? Well then I got a slower system than I started with and it means I admit defeat!

I have this same board with the same BIOS and am also using an Athlon XP 3200+ (with Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2 RAM) and had the same excruciating stability problems. I had tried/tested everything in sight and no stability. Then I found a posting in this forum made a few months back by WebFan (with an XP 3200+ and basically the same RAM), who said he had the same kind of problem. He had only achieved stability when he reduced the FSB setting to 192 MHz (obviously not a coincidence). (Thank you ever so much WebFan.) I reached the heaven of stability by making the same change. Then I started experimenting; I moved the bus speed to 193, still okay. I set the RAM settings to the 3-3-6 2.5 that Corsair says are stable, still okay.
Then, and this I believe is the key step, I installed the lastest set of chipset drivers from nVidia (not the older version provided by MSI). This change subjectively seemed to improve performance noticeably, so I decided to take the big plunge and return the FSB to the rated 200 MHz setting. It's only been three days, but STILL OKAY! Before setting the FSB to 192, I was having all kinds of blue-screen crashes numerous times a day. I haven't had a single one in ten days, three days running at the full 200 MHz.
It seems to me that the board/chipset were not tuned to handle the 3200+. If you look at the description of the board on the MSI global site, it says it's compatible with Athlon XP 3000+ and up. My guess is that only the lastest edition of the drivers, version 4.24/4.27, is up to the job. (I'm not interested in overclocking and so haven't been interested in seeing if I can do better than the rated 200 MHz setting [400 MHz DDR clock speed]. Leave well enough alone, if you ask me.)
Try them; you have nothing to lose but your instability.

K7N2 Delta-L deteriorating cmos resets

Hi
System info :
K7N2 Delta-L mobo
XP2500 Barton
2 x 256mb Samsung (Korean) PC3200
Coolermaster CP5-8JD1F-0L hsf
PNY ti4200 128mb
Maxtor 40g 7,200 hd
Pioneer DVD
LG CD-RW
2 x 80mm case fans
1st psu 400w generic
2nd psu Thermaltake 420w
All installed with first psu, and XP pro. Running no problems. Tested cpu at 11 x 200 (not straight off, gradually built up to it, watching for stability or temp problems), was running fine at stock voltages, ran 3d mark 2001 successfully. Backed things off to 10.5 x 200 to ensure stability. Re-ran 3dmark 2001, then ran prime95 overnight (8+ hours), with no problems at all. Temperatures were fine, I set the cpu temperature alarm well into the safe side in the bios (55deg). The highest cpu temperature PC Alert displayed, was 29 deg.
Updated the bios to 5.3, rebooted and checked the settings in the bios, went back into XP, no probs, re-ran 3dmark, went online, and started to play Dark Age of Camelot. After somewhere around 2 - 3 hours, the display started to "stutter", and the mouse movement became erratic. I logged off, checked PC Alert temps, all was fine, but 12v line had gone down to 11.56v. Rebooted to check the volts in the bios. They were down too, also the blue line selector had acquired a mind of its own, randomly headed anywhere when next item was selected, so I switched off, and guessing the psu to be maybe a bit inadequate, ordered the Thermaltake 420w to replace the 400w generic.
The Thermaltake arrives, install and fire up, after clearing the cmos to start again, and set up with basics. Voltages were all very satisfactory. In the meantime I had checked the cpu seating and thermal compound, and there had been no problems, and I also took the heatsink off the ti4200 to check thermal compound, cleaned and re-applied (as I did with the cpu).
On the fire up into XP, got a bsod with file corruption notice. Booted into Me install cd, formatted the drive, loaded smartdrv, and started a new XP install. The system locked up after a successful install, about 2 minutes into the worktop (went to use windows explorer to access drivers, etc., and it froze). Had to use the reset button, and it would not post. Cleared the cmos, and it posted. Reflashed the bios to 5.2 that was on the distribution cd just in case.
Since then, it has been a catalogue of failed installs, lockups and increasingly difficult clearing of the cmos. It is now at the point that a cmos clear does nothing (with the other pins at 100 and safe mode), and it fails to post. I get to the 3 lights flashing on the keyboard, and that is it.
I removed the board from the case, just in case I had hallucinated and missed a riser or something, but the risers were in the right place, and each had a fibre washer on top. Tried booting with the board out of the system, with just the cpu/hsf/memory/graphics, with no joy, also tried with a Gf 4 mx 440, and also no joy.
In retrospect, I don't think the 400w psu was too bad to drive the system, but it was worth being cautious - it has driven another system with no problems since. The cpu was performing great, as was the memory. There was no problem with the hsf or agp card. Memory was tried single stick in each memory slot (and all of it had flown through 3dmark and prime95 previously).
I am tempted to suspect something is adrift to do with the Athlon powersaving mode that has been mentioned in these forums. Other than that, there was something a bit weak on the mobo, and it has slowly bitten the dust.
Any suggestions gratefully received.

PS.
The case is one of those Superflower Midi towers, with good case volume. Airflow was quite nice with the 2 extra fans, one at front pulling in, the other at rear extracting.
The fan on top of the heatsink, is the standard Coolermaster, which overhangs the heatsink either side, with the bonus of blowing a nice airflow over the northbridge.
The 400w generic psu had 2 fans, which were also pulling a fair airflow through the case. I didn't get any indications of anything even aproaching overheating.

K7N2 Delta Issue

I just recieved my new K7N2 Delta MB. My issue is that I keep locking up during the boot process.
I get into the CMOS setup and as I change some settings I get locked up.
I let it run through the boot process and it locks up at random times.
I have zero clue as to what may cause this issue.
My setup looks like this...
Athlon XP 2100
2x512 pc2700 centron memory
GeForce FX 5600 256mb
200 gig HDD conected to the Ultra ATA contoller in my PCI slot.
SB Live 5.1
Sony dru500a dvd writer
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I have recently rebuilt my system replacing the MSI KT3 with an MSI K7N2 Delta. I have been impressed with the features and stability of the system, however, I have some questions that I hope some of you that have more experience of this board can answer:
1. I am using the AMD Athlon XP 2200 (and all the other components including the Lian Li case) which I was using on the KT3 board. The CPU temperature is around 45 degrees C but on the KT3 it was only 35 degrees C when idle. Any ideas ? The heatsink is definetly mounted properly. The temperature did drop by 10 degrees C when I flashed the
BIOS to fix the known CPU temperature issue but I think its still high.
2. I do not have any serial ATA devices or anything connected to IDE3 channel and during the BIOS boot up I get the message:
"No drives attached to FastTrak Controller. Bios Not installed."
Is this correct ? Should I be getting this message ?
I would like to disable the onboard Promise Controller since it is taking up resources and it slows down the boot speed (although only slightly). The MSI website says that the onboard RAID controller can't be disabled. I think this is poor design. Does anyone know if this is going to be addressed in future BIOS releases ?
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[list=a]
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PowMax Case 400W Power Supply
Western Digital HD 80GB UDMA 100 7200 RPM
Western Digital HD 20GB UDMA 100 7200 RPM
Plextor PX-W5224TA BLACK CDRW
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I have assembled the entire system but have run into a road block. I get the BLUE SCREEN of death everytime I try to install the system. I have double checked all jumpers on every piece of hardware. I have also double checked everything in my BIOS, which is at the current version. I have also disable and swaped hardware to narrow the problem.
I still got the error message. Naturally I assumed it was now the RAM. I started with a Kingston HyperX KHX2700/512 module. I put in in the second DIMM slot. I then went out and bougth another Kingston Module KVR333/512. Still the same error. I then tried slower RAM, PNY PC2100 512 Module. All modules placed in the second DIMM. I even tried moving them to the first DIMM slot. Again the same problem.
With the Kingston memory the FSB/DRAM ration was 1:1 and the FSB was set to 166mhz. I have found numerious posts in this forum and tried them all. Does anyone know what could be wrong? Any and all help is appreciated.
I think it's either my RAM choice or PSU. Here are the schematics for the PSU.
+5v 30a max
-12v 0.8a max
-5v 0.3a max
+12v 25a max
+3.3v 28a max+5sb 2.0a max
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Hi,
Brownman: Although disabling APIC seems to have solved your problem, it may come back and bite you on the a**. The APIC option in the BIOS gives your OS 22 (or 23 I forget which) IRQ addresses for different pieces of hardware you install. With APIC disabled you are restricted to 16 IRQ's (0-15) if you install a lot of new hardware in the future, you may run out of IRQ's. If you are installing XP it's also a good idea to install it with PNP OS disabled in the BIOS.
BTW, you didn't have an "Active" cable connected to your NIC card while you were installing XP? If this is the case you should unplug it - this can stop an XP install dead in it's tracks.
Axel

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I recently purchased a K7N2-Delta board, with an AMD 2600 processor, and an All in wonder Radeon 9800 pro. Those of you familiar with the new radeons know they require an additional power source. When I connect this power source, my system will not boot. The fans spin a couple revolutions, then stop. It is not a memory/Processor issue, as I have replaced those. The board will also post with an older video card. I am using a PowMax (I think?) 500 W power supply, which should have ample power to power the machine. I've also tried with EVERYTHING else disconnected, except the fans, and it still would not work. If i unplug the additional power that the card recieves, it will start up, and the radeon screen comes up letting me know I need to connect the additional power cord.
Thanks for your help!

Hello Malestrm,
Sorry to hear about your problem. I know if can be very frustrating. I built my computer few months ago, also with a K7N2 Delta-L AMD 1700+ and Radeon 9700 Pro.
I also had the exact same problem as yours. I spent alot of time trying to figure out the problem, but nothing worked. My ultimate solution, since I couldn't afford to spend more money was to leave my computer ON once I had it running.
However, whenever I did turn it off, the only way to restart from a cold boot was to keep trying to ON the Main Switch and after each time it didn't work i had to turn off the MAIN PSU SWITCH and then turn it ON again.
It was very annoying. And no one on any forum boards was able to help, even tho they tried.
Right now - my radeon card is dead and I am running an old geforce 2 which doesn't cause the same problem.
Also, since I was working as a computer teacher in a school during that time, I had access to alot of computers and my radeon 9700 pro would work completely fine in any other one. Even the old ones. So I doubt it was a problem with the card or the PSU. I am using ICute 350W. But the card successfully ran on far lower amp/watta PSUs.
I reckon it is most likely a mobo fault - in which case I should actually be asking MSI for some sort of compensation. But then again I am too busy to start the whole frustrating process again.
Hope you do have some better luck, and if you do ultimatly find a solution, please drop me a note.

Another help request for K7N2-delta

I was trying to overclock my memory and when my system rebooted after saving my settings in the bios, I just get a black screen. On the D-bracket, the top two are red and hangs there, which, according to the manual, means that either my processor is damaged or not installed properly.
I tried rebooting in safe mode by changing my J10 jumper and clearing the cmos but to no avail. Could I have damaged my CPU just by changing a setting?
Specs:
CPU: AMD Athlon Barton 2500+
Motherboard: K7N2 Delta-ILSR
Video card: Saphire Radeon 9600 Pro 256 mb AGP
RAM: Corsair Value Select, PC2700, 256mb, 512 mb, and 1 gb of RAM.
Hard drive 1 & 2: Seagate, 120gb, ATA100
Hard drive 3: Western Digital, 500gb, ATA100
Windows XP SP2
Powersupply: Antec TruePower, 430w (3.3v/28a, 5v/36a, 12v/20a)

Quote from: Stu on 18-February-08, 02:21:22
Guys, the Insert key reset was for the K7N2-Delta2 series, which didn't have the safemode FSB jumper, it does not apply to the K7N2 Delta
You're asking for trouble by a) using cheap value-branded RAM, and b) mixing sticks of different sizes
Also you always get best results by running memory clock at same speed as CPU FSB clock.
Take out all the sticks of RAM and have just one installed, then see if it will start up again
I read a review of how well this memory overclocks, so I thought I'd give it a shot. Also, the value-brand for Corsair is rated just under their XMS series; it's solid as far as I can tell.
Anywho, I've always had the 256mb one in the slot ever since the incident anyways. Thanks for the warning, I never knew mixing different sizes had negative effects.
Quote from: Maxwell Smart on 18-February-08, 02:18:35
I own this board... it's not the insert key, but rather the delete key... so yes, as soon as your pc boots up, hit the delete key repeatedly (or hold it down) and then it will let you go into the BIOS.
I'll try that once I get home. Thanks for the info!
Quote from: HenryW on 18-February-08, 03:01:23
"I was trying to overclock my memory..."
There is a miss-print in your manual for the CPU D-LED, I had the same in my K7N2G-ILSR manual.
So it's stuck at the hard drive or at the system power on? I'm assuming the latter since my hard drive shouldn't be having any problems.
Yea, I don't know what I was thinking when I decided to try this. This is what I get for it, I guess.

[nForce] K7N2 Delta 2 LSR boot/power up issues

I installed the K7N2 Delta LSR mb with an Athlon XP socket A 3000+ cpu. The computer turns on but won't boot. Nothing appears on the monitor screen and there are no beeps. The harddrive spins, the board has power but nothing happens. When I put my old mother board back (MSI K7T Pro266A) in with the Athlon 2000+, everything works fine.
Maxtor 60 gb harddrive
512 MB SD pc2100 SD Ram
Abit 128 mb Radeon 9200SE Video card
Any suggestions?

A few things to check:
Do you have any unused stand offs in the case touching the motherboard
The XP3000 CPU is a barton core and comes in two variants, a 333FSB and a 400FSB version. Your RAM is PC2100 which with an Nforce chipset is a recipie for problems. The NForce chipset is picky about RAM and PC2100 running on a PC2700/PC3200 processor FSB probably won't work.
Also post your PSU max amps, as a +12V rail below 16A could cause problems.
Do you have a D-Bracket connected ? This is the PCI insert with 4 leds on ?

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Hi
From what I gather, I think I have bought a bit of a tricky board and hopefully some fine people in here may help me resolve my dilemma.
The Mainboard:
MSI K7N2 Delta without RAID or SATA.
The Components to be installed:
Athlon MP 1800+ completely bog standard
S3 S8 Nitro 256 8x AGP
2x256 paired PC2700 Micron DDR DIMM's
Benq 16x DVD Writer Secondary Master
Maxtor 40Gb IDE Diamond Max HDD Primary Master
IDE Cables are extremely high quality ATA133 jobs.
Power Supply:
Brand New Delux 450 Watt with home built power conditioning throughput - Extremely little fluctuation even under massive load!
This little lot above is sitting in my Asus A7V333 mobo, it is a brilliant little setup but I intend to open the 1800 up or crank up a Duron Applebred which a friend had performing like a dream when he unlocked it...
The Issue:
I have been building and playing with PC's since I built my first Sinclair ZX80 way back in the 70's, so I know what's what in a box.
I put the mobo in the case, connected it all up, connected it up and hey presto, a POST screen and I managed to get into BIOS.
Then it died...
Waited the requisite ten to fifteen seconds after turning the PSU off, again, shut down.
I checked the J10 and J11 jumpers, set J10 to safe (100Mhz) leaving J11 closed, we have a stable BIOS but a CPU that is running at 1150Mhz and no manner of messing with the frequency settings will move that Mhz up.
So I decided to persevere, put XP in, started to load, go to the message "Setup is starting Windows" and again it shut off.
Odd!
Took out one of the mem DIMMS, reset J10 to 133/166, shut off, reset, moved the DIMM to another slot, and again, off it went and so forth.
Changed the memory to a Kingston 128Mb, again powered off.
Put an ATi Radeon 9250 in it... same old same old...
A Nvidia GeForce 2 MX replaced the ATi, beginnning to look at smashing the thing to pieces in frustration, dies at either startup or "Setup is starting Windows"
Pulled the DVD drive, still the same, did all this with the FSB set to 100Mhz, got as far as Setup is starting Windows and died.
Found a stock XP 1800+, stuck that in, followed the above and stil it would either go past BIOS screen in 133/166 or would crash at "Setup is starting Windows"
Now, why have I not sent this board back...?
I took it round a friends, who stuck a 2400+ in, some crappy old Samsung memory, his case has "El Cheapo" stamped on the PSU and the bloody thing powered up right as rain...
So we reflashed the BIOS, used the manual again to set it up for the 1800+ and I brought it back, no go...
Ye Gods, This is a sore trial indeed and I am beginning to regret being coaxed into taking this board on, playing Need For Speed Most Wanted on my Asus looks superb (the S8 Nitro is a really underrated card).
Any ideas before its "Hammer Time"..?
Ancient One

Hi
I only have PC2700 unfortunately being somewhat misled by Crucial that my FSB would run at 333 if I put it into the Asus.
I have rejected the GeForce because it really looks 'orrible running under the board, it may be failing in any case but the artefact seems to be there only when installed to the MSI, on the Asus, it runs perfectly and gets a reasonable score on 3dMark 2001 for what it is. Being an MX means that even though its bigger spec than some GF3s , the memory is a lot lot older claiming to be DDR when in fact it is early SD. The Abit Radeon 9250 is my trusty reference card as it can stoop to 2x if need be but will run in all sockets but doesn't perform as well in any way with the S8 Nitro which apperently has futureproof tech in anticipation of DX10.
The board I have, has 5 pastel green jumpers, CMOS clear at 1-2, J10 & 11 plus two down the bottom left that I can't find reference to in my manual, I suspect these are to do with the sound and USB capabilities so thought to check what these were.
The BIOS flash didn't change anything and in the BIOS I noticed that I was getting thermal readings from the temp sensor so thats out of the window as well.
FSB settings I have tried are 9 x 166, 11.5 x 133 and variations in between trying to make up 1534 or thereabouts.
I am wondering of a pinout mod to the XP socket might do the trick if I can out the FSB locks, I noticed that I cannot change the voltage Vcore to 1.75+ which is the juice that the Palomino needs, it is stuck on 1.60+ thus undervolting it somewhat, on the Asus there is a jumper for freeing the volting up, I wonder if there is anything the same on the MSI...? I tmight be detecting the MP as a mobile and then finding it locked thus not able to process the chip as it should be eg less volts and variable rates of frequency... Hmmm
There is more though... I found an old Duron 950, ran the system up on 100FSB and the second jumper open and vóila, went past the point of "Setup is starting Windows" and began to install on the HDD.
So it is looking increasingly like a conflict with the Athlon's of the 1800 variety...
On an aside about temps, I found that an hour on Prime95 can "cook" the artic silver and gain anything up to a 4 degree average cooler temp, I also use S2K bus disconnect software as well as them Palomino cores don't like switching themselves off into the halt states do they?
BTW Delux state that the PSU should exceed the given expectations but I wonder about this as I had to condition the output because it was quite wide in its fluctuations on the scope, I found a thing on the net on how to condition the output, so that it never drops under the expected voltage but can freely be drawn on as demand requires. The advantage of the Peliter kit was I could run other fans directly off it leaving the 12V rails with less demand but pulse emulators are never as good as a 2700rpm rotor in keeping the board assured that a fan is spinning. The MSI board isn't exactly abound with fan plugs...
Thanks all again
Ancient One

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