Another K8N Neo4, 3800 x2 Problem

Before I start here are the specs
Amd x2 3800 with stock cooling
Msi K8n Neo4 Platinum
2 gb OCZ Dual Channel Platinum Link
eVGA 7800gt
Ultra Xconnect 500watt psu
2 160 gb Hitachi Deskstars in Raid 0 on nvidia raid controller
2 Ide Hard drives
Problem: Complete lockups in games.(no sound, no mouse, no keyboard, no screen activity) Mainly Counter-strike Source. Battlefield 2 sometimes freezes but it always happens with CS:S. I have tried installing the AMD x2 driver, Microsoft hotfix, the registry tweak to activate the MS hotfix, reverting to the 7x.xx forceware, trying multiple forceware beta drivers, setting affinity to 1 cpu, updated bios to 1.b, formating multiple times trying different forceware drivers etc. When I install Windows before I do anything I am doing a full windows update installing everything until there are no critical updates left and also installing the latest directX.
I ran prime95 on both cores for 7 hours and nothing was found. I ran memtest for 4 hours 30 minutes and nothing was found.
As of right now I should be recieving a Amd 64 3800+ (non x2) tomorrow from newegg and seeing if that works. Here are pictures of my bios settings.
Couldn't get the very last line so heres another pic that includes the Nf4 voltage.
edit: Forgot to add this
Memory Timings
Incase imageshack links die/slow heres an alternative http://urlx.org/dmservers.com/064b

I switched the ram to the 2 slots closest to the cpu and it then allowed me to change it to 1T. The ocz guy sent me a whole list of settings which I did but then when I saved and restarted it didn't post. So I tweaked them a bit and now it works fine. According to Everest I am now above the benchmarks compared to the other x2 3800+ on the nforce4 ultra.
1 thing I did notice was that every now and then I would lock up in the bios for some reason. As in I would be changing some settings and then I couldn't use the arrow keys to move at all. I wonder if its because I am using a wireless keyboard or maybe the usb to ps2 adapter is messing it up?
edit: heres screenshots. I know I am big on screenshots.

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Quote from: workknot on 29-December-05, 00:40:46
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Quote from: JeanGuy on 15-October-05, 05:50:42
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MOVED: K8N Neo4-F HTT Problems

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Pleaz help!
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MOVED: MSI K8N NEO4-F IDE Problems

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Only way I think youll manage it is to have Quote
2*512 corsair tvinx pc3200 CAS 2
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2*256 Kingston pc3200 CAS 2,5
in 3&4 then go into bios cell menu & change the memory timings to those of the slowest modules (looks like the Kingston)
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Well it sure looks like it has gone bad.
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