Another old iMac requires upgrade/update
Dear all.
After a year of waiting BT have finally got me on broadband in very rural West Wales!
I own three Macs none of them new. A G4 dedicated to sound recording, An Emac for general web use and graphics. And an 'old' iMac; a charcoal grey' Limited edition with 13 gig HD!! It uses OS 9 .0.3
I need advise Re the iMac. I have two Kids and would like to bring it back into service as a slow web browser etc.
The CD reader no longer works; I may replace it if everything else can be made to work.
I have managed to get iMac on line via BT HomeHub using original 'Explorer'. I can just about get to google search page but most web pages come up as gobbledygook - unreadable characters. (is this a resolvable conflict?)
Therefore I have so far been unable to download any updates.
I guess I need to install OS X? or OS 10.3 ?? But given that I can't download as is, and cant reinstall using original disk, is there another way?
Can I link iMac to eMac via ethernet and get OS X? that way? What else could I/might I have to do to make iMac worth bothering with. I am on very low budget at present so any big expense is out of the question.
I would greatly appreciate any helpful advise. Please use simple, one step at a time, terms since I am semi-technophobe.
Many Thanks Chris 'Bubbapix'
As it happens, I've been dealing with very much the same sort of thing with a Bondi Blue. I can post some links for you if you want to pursue the firmware update and installation of Panther.
I was able to install Panther on the Bondi, and it will run Safari and connect to the internet. However, it has quit twice while trying to connect to You Tube, so I suspect that version of Safari has limits.
Configuring Apple Mail has been a challenge, especially with GMail. It's something I'm still trying to get worked out, but I don't know if it will be possible, as I believe that Google will stop supporting this version of Safari soon. AOL seems to work OK so far.
The Bondi is very slow, almost like dial up. Not sure if your kids would really like it. Yours might be faster, especially if you maxed out the RAM, but I suspect it would still be painfully slow.
If there is any way to sell the iMac for enough to buy something a little more modern, maybe with at least a G4 processor and running at least Tiger, that might be the better course of action if you can swing it.
Shop around for Panther and Tiger and other Macs, and see what you can come up with. Not sure what you could get for the iMac, but if you can get some OS X discs for it, it can be made to be somewhat useable.
When updating the OS on the Bondi before I got it on line, I downloaded the update onto my iBook G4 and then copied it onto a flash drive. I then plugged the flash drive into the Bondi and copied the update onto the desktop and installed it. You might try this to get the OS 9 update if you haven't been able to do it any other way.
Good luck!
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ThanksA Basic Guide for Migrating to Intel-Macs
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If you are migrating a PowerPC system (G3, G4, or G5) to an Intel-Mac be careful what you migrate. Keep in mind that some items that may get transferred will not work on Intel machines and may end up causing your computer's operating system to malfunction.
Rosetta supports "software that runs on the PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor that are built for Mac OS X". This excludes the items that are not universal binaries or simply will not work in Rosetta:
1. Classic Environment, and subsequently any Mac OS 9 or earlier applications
2. Screensavers written for the PowerPC System Preference add-ons
3. All Unsanity Haxies Browser and other plug-ins
4. Contextual Menu Items
5. Applications which specifically require the PowerPC G5 Kernel extensions
6. Java applications with JNI (PowerPC) libraries
See also What Can Be Translated by Rosetta.
In addition to the above you could also have problems with migrated cache files and/or cache files containing code that is incompatible.
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Additional links that will be helpful to new Intel-Mac users:
1. Intel In Macs
2. Apple Guide to Universal Applications
3. MacInTouch List of Compatible Universal Binaries
4. MacInTouch List of Rosetta Compatible Applications
5. MacUpdate List of Intel-Compatible Software
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2. Backup your data. This is vitally important in case you make a mistake
or there's some other problem.
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4. Startup your old Mac in Transferring files between two computers using FireWire.
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In your /Home/Library/ folder:
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For Entourage users:
Entourage is in /Home/Documents/Microsoft User Data Also in /Home/Library/Preferences/Microsoft.
Credit goes to Macjack for this information.
If you need to transfer data for other applications please ask the vendor or ask in the Discussions where specific applications store their data.
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Just bought a new iphone 5, i have an old imac computer OSX 10.5.8 and itune version 10 (updated at great cost last year for iphone4) it dosen't let me restore data... any chance of update or do i have to thow away my computer (and never by Mac again?)
You an use your iPhone without connecting it to a computer.
But the product description for the iPhone clearly states that in order to sync with a Mac you must have OSX 10.6.8 or later. That version of the OSX is usually called Snow Leopard. There are two mo recent versions of OSX. OSX 10.7.x (Lion) and OSX 10.8.x (Mountain Lion).
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Trying to connect my iPhone6 to my old iMac with 10.6.8 MacOS, and synch up the music. It says I need a new version of iTunes. When I try to upgrade the iTunes on my iMac, it says, it is already the latest version. What do I do now?
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Why does my new iMac say Migration Assistant on old iMac needs to be upgraded?
New iMac: 2.5 GHz Quad core i5 running Lion 10.7.2
Old iMac: Power PC G4 running Tiger 10.4.11
Migration Assistant app is installed on the G4.
OX software is updated.
Connected via Ethernet cable.
But computers are not seeing each other and the new iMac says "Migration Assistant on the source computer needs to be updated".
Any ideas what is wrong?You need to use the Migration Assistant on the new computer. You have to boot the G4 into Target Disk Mode - Transferring files between two computers using FireWire. Boot the new computer normally, and you should see a Desktop drive icon for the G4. Open Migration Assistant on the new computer in the Utilities folder.
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There is nothing to do, unless you buy a new computer.
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http://majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4459
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Trying to update firmware on old Imac
I have an old Imac DV Special Edition, slot loading
I am currently running on OS X 10.2.8.
I bought the Tiger OS X.4 software, and am attempting to install it when it says I need to update my firmware.
When I run software update, all I get is Ipod Updater to load.
How do I find out what firmware I need, when I look on the Apple website, I find old stuff, I upgraded to 10.2 in 2003
and the firmware updates go back to 1999, before I even bought the machine, how do I find out what updates to firmware I need?
Apple's web pages for the old machines are not very clear, I know I'm probably asing for too much, maybe time to buy a new machine.Unfortunately you can't update the firmware in OSX. The idea was that it should be applied prior to any OS X upgrade. You should boot into/install OS 9 and the update to this version: 4.1.9 (link).
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mrtotes -
Upgrade the old iMac before migrating to a new one or not?
Hi all,
I am planning to buy a new iMac and would like to migrate some of my stuff to it from an old iMac. And then I would also like to migrate some of my stuff from a still older MacBook onto this old iMac. Complicated enough? :-)
In short:
Step one: stuff from my 5 year old iMac with OS 10.7.5 Lion on it migrates to -----> a brand new iMac with Yosemite.
Step two: stuff from my 8 year old MacBook with OS 10.5.8 on it (and not upgradable any further) migrates to -----> the 5 year old iMac with OS 10.7.5 Lion on it.
Now, my questions are these:
1) Should I first upgrade the 5 year old iMac with OS 10.7.5 Lion on it to Yosemite before migrating my stuff from it to a brand new iMac with preinstalled Yosemite or not? Recommended, not recommended, neutral, what?
2) If the answer to the 1st question is "yes" (recommended), will I then be able to migrate my stuff from the 8 year old MacBook with OS 10.5.8 onto it? That is, will the two migration assistants (of OS 10.9 and OS 10.5) "talk" to each other at all?
Any further tips will be hugely appreciated!
Lots of thanks in advance!Hi rkaufmann87,
thank you so much for your reply!
I am afraid you misunderstood me a little bit… While you kindly explain to me ways of how to migrate my data from one computer to another, my question was not so much about "how" but rather about "whether":
a) should I first upgrade my old iMac (with 10.7.5 Lion on it) to Yosemite before migrating its data to the new iMac with preinstalled Yosemite? Will it help in any way or is it irrelevant?
b) and if the answer is "yes" (i. e. upgrade the old iMac to Yosemite), whether the migration assistant on the 8 year old MB will then be able to "talk" to its counterpart on the now upgraded old iMac?
Perhaps this too might help:
What I am trying to do is make two computers out of three -
1) My wife's 8 year old MacBook will most probably go to the dustbin. Before it does, I would like to migrate her data to my 5 year old iMac which will then replace her MB (in the dustbin) and be hers forever after.
2) I will certainly have to migrate my own data from my 5 year old iMac to the new iMac which I am about to buy.
So the question remains: upgrade the old iMac for both purposes (s. above - #1 and #2) from Lion to Yosemite - yes, no, doesn't matter, what?
Many thanks again!
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