Another spanned clips bug?

I've read that Adobe recently fixed a spanned clips bug. Well here's another one (at least on my system):
I have several spanned clips recorded with my Sony FS700 (MTS-files in AVCHD-container) and my Panasonic P2-camera (P2 MXF-files). When using Adobe Media Encoder (AME) to convert to ProRes, the spanned clips are joined right, but AME encodes the same material several times. The result is several copies of the exact same encoded material written to disk.
Here's how it works:
In one case, my camera had split my recording into 4 individual files. I expected AME to a) either join them and output one long file or b) not to join them and just output 4 individual ProRes files. Instead I ended up with 4 joined identical 32 GB files on disk. I did it again and noticed that AME actually encoded the same material 4 times in a row. What a waste of time and space …
When using Sony MTS-files, AME creates different filenames for each clip (0001.mov, 0002.mov, 0003.mov. When using Panasonic MXF-files, AME put _1, _2, _3, etc. at the end of the filenames.
In my opinion, AME should have a tick box where you can chose "join spanned files" or not. If it had such a box, it would chose to leave it off most of the time. That way it would be much easier to check if AME has converted all the files or not. It would be 32 files in = 32 files out, not 32 files in = 2 spanned files + x small files out … Nowadays, I have to doublecheck everything before formatting my cards.
I'm using Adobe Media Encoder v. 7.2.0.43 (64-bit) and OSX Mavericks 10.9.1 on a late 2013 Macbook Pro 15-inch Retina 2,3 GHz i7 16GB RAM 512 SSD.

Jim Simon, let me explain:
1. When I drag MTS-clips into AME, the software generates several copies of the same spanned clip during conversion. (They pop up in the queue while AME is converting).
2. When I drag MXF-clips into AME, the software generates several copies of the same spanned clip before conversion. In the screenshot, which was taken after conversion, you'll see that the file numbers begin with 0018, 0019, 0019, 0019, 0019, and then jump to 0023, 0023. Well, what I dragged in was 0018, 0019, 0020, 0021, 0022, 0023, 0024 etc. So I believe AME skips filenames that are elements in a spanned clip, and then multiplies the the process all by itself. But, yes, I could manually examine the queue and erase identical clips after I drag files in. But that is just not a good way of working …
So, AME behaves differently with spanned MXF and MTS-files, but none of them are handled right.

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I've finally had the time to try this again and understand it.
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END TEST_xxx; /*0123456789*/Now save this as e.g. "TEST.pks" file. Open this file in SQL Developer and compile it. You will get the "Error(3,27): PLS-00111: end-of-file in comment".
Now look at the result in the database -> Open the package specification from the database and you see this:
create or replace
PACKAGE TEST_xxx AS
PROCEDURE TEST_PROCEDURE;
END TEST_xxx; /*0123456789*The last slash is missing...
Now go back to the file with the package specification and delete one letter from the comment. Compile it again... it works now.
It looks like the length of this kind of comment is limited to 9 characters.
The limitation is there only when:
1) Compiling from file with different extension than .sql !!! If you rename the file to "TEST.sql", SQL Developer opens it as a script file and runs it as a script, so there is no problem with it.
2) It has to be this kind of comment: /* */. One line comments are not limited.

Premiere cs6/cc confusing spanned-clips Canon C300

Hey
Bit of a strange one...
We have Adobe Creative Cloud installed on 5 suites (resently updated to CC from CS6) when using CS6 we had a problem when ingesting footage from the Canon C300. When ingesting spanned clips CS6 seems to get the order of the clips mixed up, so the start of the clip will be around the middle. There is no jump in the timecode, so it would appear CS6 is just placing the spanned video files around the wrong way, but the metadata (where a assume the timecode is stored) is correct.
I thought upgrading to CC would solve this but it appears it hasn't. I just installed CC on my home machine which has never had CS6 on it and this probelm hasn't occurred, which meant when I opened up an edit that I started at work it had all been shifted around! Very Annoying!!!
Has anyone came across the same issue?? Seems strange it has happen on all our machines. I've tried uninstalling CS6 and then install CC but doesn't seem to work, would appricate any help on this
Thanks
Chris

Hi,
just to underline your point: we have had the same issues since CS6 and it persists until today (CC 7.01).
What makes things even stranger is that I had a 55 min+ clip (from a Canon C300), spanned into 11 MXF segments.
When I imported it via the Media Browser from a portable hard drive it came in as a single clip maintaining the correct order of the segments. I then copied the hard drive's contents to our SAN (maintaining the file structure, of course).
Then I imported the clip again, it came as one clip like before - but the order of the segments within the clip was completely random, every 5:15 min there was a visible "cut" within the clip.
So maybe PPro uses some hidden metadata of the files to determine their order and those metadata get lost on their way to the SAN. I can only speculate.
I tried creating new projects, using a windows machine instead of a Mac, but to no avail.
Our temporary (yet annoying) solution is to "destroy" the files structure and then import and concatenate the segments manually.
Are you on a SAN?
Manuel

Canon spanned clips - problem with Premiere CC 2014 v 8.1 (and NOT in CC v 7.2.2)

Hello,
I have a spanned XF100 clip (3 clips total 13:50).
I have the whole directory content (XML,...) of the CF card.
I use the Media Browser of Adobe Premiere to import the videostreams.
Everything worked fine with Premiere CC v 7.2.2
I needed to upgrade to Premiere CC 2014 v 8.2 as the new Speedgrade didnt work with the old version of Premiere.
Suddenly the spanned clip does not playback smoothly. In fact, if I place the timer to a specific point, it takes up to 60 sec until the picture changes in the "Programm window" and doesnt playback at all. Only the sounds works, but the video is only a still picture.
This only happens with the spanned clip. All the other "single" clips are working fine.
I do exactly the same thing in CC and CC2014. In CC it works perfectly and in CC2014 it does not.
Any idea?
Does CC2014 interpret the spanned clips differently?
thanks for your help!
Manfred

I have a similar issue with XF305 spanned clips in a sequence mixed with 5dMarkIII and old SD DV footage running very slowly intermittently on 8.1. I had worked case 186016889 this weekend for this issue and the engineer renamed the following folders to _old and PR recreated them. I'm running on Win 7 Pro latest SP, i7 920, 48 GB RAM and Nvidia GTX 480.
%appdata%\Adobe\Premiere Pro to %appdata%\Adobe\Premiere Pro
Libraries\Documents\Adobe to Libraries\Documents\Adobe
This seemed to help for a while, but the nature of the slowdown has been from a few minutes to many hours. I did finally notice that I had up to three orphaned PR processes that were still doing I/O. Things get better now for a while after I kill the processes. I've seen other issues with the new version where edit audio in Audition doesn't refresh the waveform after an Audition save and removed and reinstalled PR last night because the edit audition of the next clip overwrote that audio with the previous clips file.
So I have a fresh/clean install and it's still intermittently leaving orphaned processes and running slow. I think I can get it to happen consistently when I send the audio to Audition, but I'm doing an export now so I can go back to the previous version. I'll do a quick test to see if it's consistent before I downgrade so I can re-due the last three days work.

Relinking spanned clips

I have received a project edited on PPro 7.1.0 with a number of Canon C300 spanned clips. I have PPro 7.2.1. When I relink the clips the spanned clips link incorrectly. In fact all the span clips have incorrect timecode. The original editor on PPro 7.1.0 brought in the span clips as individual clips with sequential timecode. When I import the clips they come in as clips all of the same length but the time code is way off eg a clip that should start at 01:01:31:17 starts at 01:17:18:18. This is really less than satisfactory and the fact that we need to hand this project back and forth is really going to make life very difficult. Adobe and Canon need to sort this span clip thing out. It's been going on for over a year now at I'm about to start loosing it... a trip to the post office might calm my nerves.

OK... well it would seem that no one is that interested in this and no one from Abode is willing to help here which is very disappointing.
Some further developments:
We are working in 25p PAL btw on apple macs
1. Both machines now have identical versions of Premiere Pro
2. Both machines have identical import settings in preferences... are there any other settings hidden anywhere
Importing mxf footage using Media Browser, shot Canon C300 running 1.0.9.1.00 firmware
On my import of span clips I get the first of the spans being the full clip with the correct timecode. The other spans are also imported as full clips, but with the timecode starting at the beginning of the final span
The import on the other editors machine is giving a very different result
He gets each of the spans as individual clips with each clip being 5:15:21(PAL), which as far as I understand being the maximum span length with the final clip in the span group being shorter than the 5:15:21
The other interesting thing here is that there are network drives involved at the other editors end and importing from the network drive give slightly different results to importing from a drive via USB3
While all clips come in as separate clips... no spanning... the clips imported from the network drive are correct sequentuially correct
The clips from the USB 3 drive will only play the first span of the clip although they are labelled spans xxxx01, xxxx02, xxxx03, etc
As far as I know my footage was exported to a USB drive from the network drive at the other editors end
I have imported footage into a new project and sent that project back to the editor... when he relinks the footage he gets the same results as described above
I am working on a new mac pro... the other editor is on a iMac... the only thing I haven't checked is the version of OSX that he is using
This now getting very tedious... something that should be very straight forward is now taking hours of time to try and sort out.
Can someone please help... yes I'm looking at you Mr. Adobe
cheers
Pete

Canon 5D Mark III - CS6 - Handling of spanned clips

Hi,
I was looking to pick up a 5d Mark III and I was wondering how most tend to handle the workflow for rejoining spanned clips. I`m going to be using Premiere CS6. I know that the Media Browser can rejoin P2 media and such, does it work the same way with the Mark III?
What do most use for the rejoin?
Thanks

The files are sequencially named so you can easily grab several and drag to your timeline and they will be butted up to form a continous flow.
You can do this, but I'm not sure it makes much sense to ignore
the Media Browser to opt for manually re-assembling your
source media files before editing.
That's what the Media Browser does automatically
(as pointed out in post #1).

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