Anti Virus Software....Do I need It On My MacBook Pro??

Hi
I was given the impression I didn't need anti virus software for my  1yo MacBook Pro?? am I correct or stupid? Please Help.....

Roadzee wrote:
Even better thanks...the question I have now is..do you recommend AV software if so what one is the best??
Thanks.
I have been using Macs with OS X since the day OS X was launched on March 24, 2001.  (BTW, an experience I will never ever ever repeat, despite the overall clunkiness of OS9.)  I have never downloaded, purchased, used, tested, or thought about using an anti-virus software.  I still don't.  In all that time, I have never experienced malware, trojan horses, and/or viruses.  Whenever I read about these trojan horses or malware, it almost always requires user acquiesence, rarely superior coding of the malware. 
Look, don't allow anything to have root access to your computer by keeping it secure by password, and only enter the password when you're sure of what's requiring it.  Don't download anything that you don't trust.  In other words, download Adobe Photoshop from Adobe's website, not from some random website in the Ukraine.  I don't like anti-virus software because they gobble up system resources that don't need to go something like protecting the Mac from nonexistent trouble.
But if you're going to lose sleep over this, then get ClamXav.  But it's really a waste of your time.

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