Any factory calibrations for the 2009 Mac Pro?

I'm considering putting together a 2009 8-core 2.93GHz Mac Pro from components. Are there any factory calibrations this time around (like the fan calibration for the G5)?

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Upgrades for the 2009 Mac Pro

I have this Mac Pro: http://support.apple.com/kb/SP506 I have the 8 Core with two 2.26 Ghz quad core xeon 5500 processors, 32 gigs of ram, and three of the NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 with 512MB of GDDR3 memory PCI Express 2.0.
My questions:
- Can I buy and swap out the 2.93 ghz quad core for each slot without any problems? I assume so, as the same board handles both.
- Second, Can I put any other graphic cards other than the two mentioned in the technical specs. I am getting choppyness/freezing/etc after mountain lion upgrade. We do lots of video, and we are trying not to just replace this computer. Any suggestions or tips appreciated. We can know how to physically do all of this.
- Will the upgrading the processors make a huge difference?
Thanks!

Unless you are doing rendering and have observed CPU usage flat out on all processors, upgrading the CPUs will do nothing for you. Most Mac Pros are I/O bound. Re-orginizing your disks would do much more for you.
You can use the Apple 5770 (uses one aux cord) or Apple 5870 (uses two aux cords) without going into home-made or aftermarket flashed cards. There are one or two more that have drivers included in 10.8, but not yet officially supported by Apple.

What USB 3.0 card should I get for early 2009 Mac Pro so I can connect the Drobo 5D? They say get CalDigit or Sonnet. Anyone have preference or experience with reliability. Trying to find which is better.

What USB 3.0 card should I get for early 2009 Mac Pro so I can connect the Drobo 5D? They say get CalDigit or Sonnet. Anyone have preference or experience with reliability with this. I am running Lion and Trying to find which is better as I know from experience not all cards are created equal. Thanks in advance for your help!

yakov536 wrote:
High Point RocketU Quad USB 3.0 for Mac is working great for me. Had an issue with CD/DVD Drive which was resolved with most current driver downloaded from the support site.
Running Moutain Lion on Early 2009, mirroring two Seagate Go Flex 2TB USB 3.0 Drives. Installed in Slot 4.
Using it primarily with VMWare Fusion for Virtual Drives. Windows, Unbuntu and other OS running really well.
HPT Support was responsive and very helpfull using the WEB Portal under the product page.
I have some comments and a suggestion:
Have you tried your setup with a SD/CF combo card reader (like the Lexar or Kingston FCR-H63)? Does the card appear on the desktop when first plugged in?
Did you need to fool around with any kind of power issues in installing this card in the x4 PCIe slot of the MacPro?
Suggestion. Have you tried one of the fixed in this article to cure the BT issues in MacPro 3,1?
Good luck.
Henry

I'm shopping for the Apple Mac Pro

I'm shopping for the Apple Mac Pro Desktop 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Quad, 3GB RAM
Mfr. Part # MB871LL/A
When I put that in the Apple website, (just MB871LL/A ) or Google on the Web, it shows results)
which on the Web is :
2300$ at PC connection, J&R and Amazon
While looking for a better price I found one
for much much cheaper (+/- $500 less)
Desktop Computers » APMP266QC3 » Apple Mac Pro Desktop Computer Workstation (Early 2009)
(I don't know why they call it a workstation ?)
They say all our products are new, not refurbished
It's the same as the one seen on J&R, Amazon, etc. but what bothers me is that the Mfr# is different. [APMP266QC3] when everywhere else, including Apple store, it is MB871LL/A
I'm wondering if there's something fishy here ?

First a clarification: After reading the May 2009 issue of MacWorld (pg 50) I decided to buy the Apple Mac Pro Desktop 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Quad, 3GB
I find out that this model is known as Mfr. Part # MB871LL/A
So if I see a Mfr#Z0G8-0002 (see below) I'm wondering what it is.
The store that I'm talking is not B&H, it's on the other side of the country. They sell a 3GB and a 6 GB.
they sell a 3GB computer with # [APMP266QC3] which seems now to be a B&H stock # (No information on Mfr#)
They have also a 6GB and it has the APMP266QC6GB and
Mfr#Z0G8-0002 also with $500 less than anywhere else.
Both these number can be seen in B&H
And that's my question: Mfr#Z0G8-0002 ? (not sure what is 0002)
A completely different number just because 6GB instead of 3GB and everything else is the same ? That would be stupid. Usually it would just have one digit different at the end.
When I put that number in the Apple page it said no result found. (but that could be because they stop selling it ?) If you google it will show results.
I google both ZOG8-3GB and Z0G8-6GB
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Z0G8-6GB)&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=Z0G8-3GB%29&btnG=Searc h
or
http://www.epinions.com/MacDesktops--price_range_20006000
The first one compare to the 4th one. Ignore the stores. I'm not buying from them. I just want to show both computer on the same page.
Again, they have a different manuf. number. Is it just because it's 6GB instead of 3GB ?
So a store in the West, with no affiliation that I know with B&H in New York, sells a computer with a BH stock number ?
I know the saying of "if it's too good.."
I checked with the BBB there's no complaints about this company.

Fcpx poorly optimised for the new mac pro?

'm experiencing low playback performance on fcpx 10.1.2 on my new mac pro:
I'm on a 8-core, 64GB, d700 (project and files are all on the main drive. Im on the latest maverick update.
Im working on prores 1080p and adding some effects to a clip and my playback really drops, so far I have been testing a few plugins such as hawaki "auto-split" or coremelts "track & slice X". I instantly need to render the effects to see the results, the funny thing is the same plugins runs smoothly on my macbook retina.. It made me wonder maybe the 3rd party plugin isn't optimised for the new mac pro but then I tried hawaki auto-split on Premiere cc 2014 and I was getting way better results than fcpx..
This may seem like a trival thing but paying this much money for a product and having a bigger project with different plugins this gets really annoying..
Anyone else experiencing any issues?

QX 10 is QuarkXpress (version 10 - latest version) – a pro publishing/page layout application. Adobe InDesign knocked QX off its throne over a decade ago. Now that Adobe have introduced their subscription model (as opposed to their former purchase upfront model), many pros like me are now looking for alternatives. QX is about the most likely. I'm just doing some homework before I jump (after all it's my livelihood we're talking about here).

QX 10 – optimised for the new Mac Pro?

I recently upgraded to a new Mac Pro.
So am now considering going back to QX (I am a pro graphic designer).
They have a deal offering special pricing for upgrades from version 3 (AUD $399)!
Question: Is QX 10 optimized for the new Mac Pro?
Any designers (having previously used / using InDesign) out there with QX 10 experience?
Your thoughts please?

QX 10 is QuarkXpress (version 10 - latest version) – a pro publishing/page layout application. Adobe InDesign knocked QX off its throne over a decade ago. Now that Adobe have introduced their subscription model (as opposed to their former purchase upfront model), many pros like me are now looking for alternatives. QX is about the most likely. I'm just doing some homework before I jump (after all it's my livelihood we're talking about here).

I have an imac bought late 2013, can i use it as a display for the new mac pro? I also want to use windows 8 on it, would this work with parallels or bootcamp?

I have an imac bought late 2013, can i use it as a display for the new mac pro? I also want to use windows 8 on it, would this work with parallels or bootcamp?

Yes, it supports target display mode. Windows can be run with either Parallels or Boot Camp.

I have an imac bought late 2013, can i use it as a display for the new mac pro running windows 8 through bootcamp?

I have an imac bought late 2013, can i use it as a display for the new mac pro running windows 8 through bootcamp?

No. Target Display mode is only supported when connected to a Mac running 10.6 or later.
It cannot be used with a PC, bootcamp, gamaing console, cable box, DVR or PowerPC Mac.
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3924

Suggestion for Apple: MacBooks as terminals for the new Mac Pro

Suggesting Apple to enable using MacBooks as terminals for the new Mac Pro if connecting through the thunderbolt.
I am planning to get a new Mac Pro this month and use it as a 'portable' workstation since it weighs only 5kg.
I am working on scienctific research which requires travels quite often.
I want to have a workstation with me when I'm off-site so that I can work without worrying about the network connection.
It would be great if I can use Macbook Air as a display, keyboard and touchpad for the Mac Pro.
I will be fully geared by taking a Mac Pro and a MacBook Air with me where ever I travel.

I don't know much about Thunderbold connections.
Especially how does it combine PICe and DisplayPort signal together.
I would like the MacBook serve as an external screen and an external PCIe video card to the Mac Pro, together with its touchpad and keyboard connected to the Mac Pro as an external USB keyboard and touchpad.
In this case, one may not even boot into the OS on the MacBook side, just need proper drivers in the Mac Pro side for the 'external PCIe video card', keyboard and touchpad.

I'm in the market for the new Mac Pro.

I'm in the market for the new Mac Pro. I've been waiting for it to be released and have some cash set aside for this. I am a video editor and use Premiere Pro CC, and After Effects. My primary content is simple documentary films - so nothing too intense, but always HD (1080) video. I don't see 4k in my future but it's always a possibility so I want to future-proof my purchase for the next 3 years or so. With respect to storage space and RAM, I can make that decision myself based mostly on cashflow (since they are likely both user-expandable). However, with the basic configuration of the number of cores and video graphics card, I could use some advice. I think they are both set for the life of the computer, so important to get it right.
My current thinking is to start with the 6 core model (I guess I have no real reason for this decision, except that I feel like the 4-core base model is put there to make the price feel lower, while the real advantages in performance start at the 6 core - am I way off on this one?). But, I wonder if I should spring for the 8 core or even the 12 core? Probably overkill for me - out of my budget anyway.
The other decision is the graphics card - is the D500 enough? Will it be limiting factor in the future? Or should I move to D700?
Here are the cost differences:
from 6 core to 8 core is $1500
from D500 to D700 is $600
Which is worth it? (neither, both?)
Thanks.

Whether it's worth it depends more on you and what your current and future needs are.
The good news is that Adobe's CC apps can already take advantage of the AMD FirePro GPU's in the Mac Pro, and offer hardware acceleration of the Mercury Playback Engine, which you'll see in Premiere, After Effects, and Media Encoder. According to the Adobe staffers I've talked to, even the FirePro D300's will see a big benefit, in fact they say you won't see a big bump by upgrading the GPU. As far as Adobe's apps are concerned, their OpenCL use is all single precision, and the D500/D700 upgrades put a lot of weight in double precision performance (which is unused in their apps). Their recommendation - put the bulk of your budget on cores and RAM.
How many depends on how elaborate and complex your work is. Simple documentary films with the odd effects, transitions, titles, and grading.. you'd be fine with a 6-core IMO. If you're leaning towards getting into really layered comps and effects, you'd shorten those long render times down a lot with the 8-core. As for memory, I'd recommend at least 4GB per physical core.
Good luck!

Can RAM for the previous Mac Pros be used in the new revisions?

I ordered a Mac Pro last month along with 2 4GB RAM kits from Crucial (see details below)
4GB kit (2GBx2), 240-pin DIMM, DDR2 PC2-5300 memory module
Module Size: 4GB kit (2GBx2)
Package: 240-pin DIMM
Feature: DDR2 PC2-5300
Specs: DDR2 PC2-5300 • CL=5 • Fully Buffered • ECC • DDR2-667 • 1.8V • 256Meg x 72
The RAM has arrived but the Mac Pro is yet to ship and today I received an email from Apple I can:
1. Keep your original Mac Pro order at the same price.
2. Cancel this order and place an order for the new Mac Pro.
The RAM kits cost me £360 already so i hope i can use use the sticks in the new machine. Anyone know the answer to this? Before I decide what to do.
Thanks...

Memory page updated:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304235
Crucial should be understanding, one of the best in customer support - and satisfaction. And most likely to have worked with Apple to have chips.
DDR2 PC2-6400/DDRII-800
This is NOT for Apple Mac Pro, just an "example."
Corsair TWIN2XP2048-6400C4 $198 for 2 x 1GB
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=85025-21

Are the graphics cards offered for the new mac pro HDCP compliant??

hi are the graphics cards offered for the new mac pro hdcp compliant??

See if this helps
http://macperformanceguide.com/index_topics.html#MacPro2013

Can video cards for the new Mac Pro be installed in the field?

Current Configuration of the new Mac Pro is as follows:
ACES MacPro Workstation Seat
Processor
6-Core/3.5GHz/Xeon E5
Memory
32 GB
Graphics
2X AMD FirePro D500
Hard Disk
1 TB
Display
24" LED / HP
Media Player
2GB FIPS USB Drive
Mouse
Apple Magic Mouse
Keyboard
USB
Ports
4-USB 3.0;
6-Thunderbolt
1- HDMI
Netwk Interface
Ethernet/802.11n
Card Reader
NIST SP 800 Compliant
My question is can the Graphic Display cards be removed and replaced in the field by an experience Mac Technician?
Any special tools required?

Now here is the back, showing the heatsink paste still in place, and the thermal pads used to cool the RAM chips to the central cooler:
note that the two cards are not interchangeable -- they have their power lugs on opposite sides. One card has chips to support actual display output to the thunderbolt Busses, the other card has none, but has the custom micro-PCIE slot for the PCIe SSD "stick".
One reason for this design is that to make a leap forward, you would have to water-cool the slots for a traditional form-factor PCIe slot Mac pro. Then do it again to include a second GPU. In my opinion, this model Mac Pro is about conquering the cooling problem of this much CPU and GPU compute-power in one box.
NVIDIA graphics card replacements? maybe eventually, but not at this writing.

What is the best storage solution for the new Mac Pro

Hi All,
With limited funds when purchasing the new Mac Pro, I'm starting to look at storage for music/pictures/video etc - I'm thinking of storing this data externally and connecting via Thunderbolt or Firewire or USB3 to access the data... Not sure what type of storage to use, upgrading to 1TB PCIe-based flash seems excessive for costs and I would like at least 2TB, anyone have any suggestions?
What are the alternatives for storage... (single disk Raid) I've recently had to replace my internal WD hard drive (lost everything) and the backup time capsule failed, again knackered disk (looks like WD format error with Maverick OS bug), don't want to format them just incase..
With the new Mac Pro coming with 256GB PCIe-based flash storage, I'm reluctant to upgrade the storage because of costs and would like some redudancy when it comes to storage.
Any suggestions?
Many thanks
Russ

landing page at OWC for Thunderbolt products.
Helios enclosure (the new dual-slot Helios PCIe chassis) and moving various hard drives into Thunderbolt cases (in time) but mainly into my favorite USB3 hard drive enclosure.
For those without eSATA enclosures, a simple eSATA to USB3 adapter might do the trick.
USB3 is plenty fast to house two hard drives.
If you can, I'd try to order with 500GB to get started and have more room for system and default for scratch or even for Aperture/iPhoto or Lightroom.
Always take the precaution and zero a drive before use. Want a solid enterprise ideal for RAID, then look no further than Seagate Constellation series. 128MB cache doesn't hurt and fine for RAID5, NAS or whatever you want.
There should be retail PCIe-SSD products in 2014.
Large storage, http://macperformanceguide.com/topic-thunderbolt.html

What kind of monitor is recommended for the new Mac Pro?

I want ot upgrade to the new Mac Pro from an imac, but what kind of display/monitor would be recommended and how much might it cost?

There are lots of 27"-30" monitors that would work, with the right connector adaptor. Many sell for around a 1/3rd of an Apple display. Personally, I like Samsung monitors, but LG makes some very nice ones, and even Dell's monitors are often quite good. Acer has some nice large screen monitors out too, and while the name might not be commonly known to many people, they are and have been a major equipment manufacturer for decades now and their quality is usually pretty good.
Keep an eye out for sales in the coming weeks and go look at some, preferably side by side.
You should be able to pick up something good in the 25"-30" range for easily under $500/$600 USD (on sale, perhaps well under $300).

Any factory calibrations for the 2009 Mac Pro?

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