Any hope for syncing a "LG Dare" (Verizon)

Well as i'm sure many of you have seen the new "3G iPhone Competitor" will be released on verizon this week. any hope for syncing with iCal and or Contacts?
Please don't rip on me for this I just cannot afford a plan on ATT.

This is great... I got my music on my dare even under the "My Music" Folder on the phone using the method above (Bluetooth Exchange)....
one problem...
theres no way to get it off after you do that.... if you try to delete songs off your phone via Bluetooth Exchange it says "Last Operation Failed Bad Request..."
and of course theres no way to delete them from the phone... that would be too simple (thanks LG)
and since I have a mac....
i cant use the verizon sync program to get them off...
so for now i only have 4 songs on my Dare... but they are on my internal memory... perhaps... eternally.
Please reply if you have any advice...
maybe i missed something ...
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