Any issue using Time Machine on USB drive with AirPort?

Are there any issues using a USB drive attached to an AirPort Extreme with Time Machine? My guess is no, but figured I would ping the forum and see if there's something I have not thought of. I know Time Capsule does this, but I don't have that - I have an AirPort Extreme.
The drive is within my network and not exposed to anyone unless they can connect
My password is required to access the Time Machine files
Any security implications not covered by these two points?
I'm currently using a USB drive I attach/detach from my MacBook Air and it would be much more convenient to backup to the drive connected to the AirPort. The first backup will probably take a day short of forever being over the air and not the wire, but after that I imagine it would nicely run in the background.
Thanks for any feedback or suggestions!

Are there any issues using a USB drive attached to an AirPort Extreme with Time Machine? My guess is no, but figured I would ping the forum and see if there's something I have not thought of.
The correct answer is yes. First off, Apple does NOT support Time Machine backups to external USB HDDs attached to the AirPort Extreme ... although they do for the Time Capsule.
Please check out this excellent Pondini article which provides some details on why this would not be a good idea.

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My MacBook w/ OSX 10.6.8 cannot access my external Time Machine Backup USB Drive. It says it is a Read Only drive. When I went to change permissions I found all pernissions were listed as "Custom" and I could not reset them to "Read Write". Any help!

My MacBook w/ OSX 10.6.8 cannot access my external Time Machine Backup USB Drive. It says it is a Read Only drive. When I went to change permissions I found all pernissions were listed as "Custom" and I could not reset them to "Read Write". Any help would be appreciated.

This can be done easily with ethernet.
Please follow the instructions strictly.
To make it easier I want you to do this overnight so you can turn off all your current connection to the internet.
Just go to the airport fan in to the top right and turn airport off.
Get ethernet cable and connect the laptop to the TC lan port.. ie <-> ones.
Press and hold the reset on the TC for about 10sec. until the front led flashes rapidly.
Open the airport utility.. go to manual setup and change the wireless to off. (so other people around you cannot join your network of one).
Ignore all the errors.. they won't stop the backup working.
Go to the TM and reselect the backup target disk as the TC.
It should start after 2min and run through to completion.
That is it.. for a backup of many GB it might take a few hours.. so make sure the laptop has power plugged in and the sleep is off.. (on early ones I think this is needed but I am a late arrival to the scene).. sleep doesn't affect later OS.

I used time machine, now my drive has failed and all my files are lost.

i used time machine, now my drive has failed and all my files are lost. any one know how to get the max osx to see the drive again so i can retrive my files

kabb30 wrote:
i used time machine,
Ok, check
now my drive has failed
Which one, the TM drive or the internal boot drive?
all my files are lost.
Where? on both drives or just TM or the internal drive?
any one know how to get the max osx
yea, if we knew more details of your machine and what you had before and later
to see the drive again so i can retrive my files
I don't know what drive failed.
I'm thinking here your internal drive failed? Was it replaced?
You have a blank internal drive and a TimeMachine drive and your asking how to reinstall OS X so you can restore from the TimeMachine drive?
How are you getting here? Another machine or device and what is it?
We need more details of your situation please.

Time Machine will NOT work with Airport Disks!

It looks like Time Machine will not work with Airport Disks after all. All references to Airport have been removed from the Time Machine page:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/timemachine.html
It also specifically says: "You can designate just about any HFS+ formatted FireWire or USB drive connected to a Mac as a Time Machine backup drive. Time Machine can also back up to another Mac running Leopard with Personal File Sharing, Leopard Server, or Xsan storage devices."
Surely, they would have included the Airport Extreme Base Station in this list if it was supported.
I really hope there will be another firmware update for the AEBS which will bring compatibility with Time Machine, because Time Machine was the only reason for me to buy an AEBS. (I only use it as a small backup server, I don't even have wireless networking enabled. There were other solutions, e.g. from Synology, which are faster and more reliable than AEBS disk sharing, but Synology stated their network drives would not be compatible with Time Machine.)

Here's how you can potentially use your AirDisk with TimeMachine (beware that YMMV), but it should work as it works with every other "unsupported" device.
1) Mount your AirDisk so it appears on your Mac
2) Open Terminal.app
3) change directories to the AirDisk's root folder located in "/Volumes"
ie: cd "/Volumes/AirDisk Name"
4) execute this command to "bless" the drive to be used with time machine:
touch .com.apple.timemachine.supported
5) Start TimeMachine and if all went well, it should recognize your AirDisk drive and use it for TM.
This should also work on NFS shares, SMB shares, AFP shares, basically anything. It has worked up until the last developer seed, so unless they yanked this at the last minute, it should still work.
Now, the reason why Apple removed this feature may be due to the unreliability of the AirDisk, so be cautious.

Time Machine and USB Drive

I use Time Machine to backup my datas. The problem is that my HDD (on my MAC) was full, and added an Firewire DD on my MAC. Is it possible to include my firewire in the backup on Time Machine ( no problem with the capacity of this drive)?

JGaron wrote:
Is it possible to include my firewire in the backup on Time Machine
provided there's enough room on the destination drive, yes.
in fact, time machine should automatically include any properly formatted drive, connected directly to your computer, for backup.
have a look @ #1 and #2 here: http://web.me.com/pondini/Time_Machine/FAQ.html.
JGG

Time Machine external USB drive not available at boot

I have a late 2012 iMac running Mavericks 10.4.9. I use Time Machine with a Toshiba 3TB external drive. The Toshiba drive is usually left powered up. Every time I boot the iMac and try to force a backup, Time Machine reports the Toshiba disk is not available. When I open Time Machine preferences, the Toshiba drive does not show until I power-cycle it and re-select it. Also occasionally it reports that I did not eject it properly. But it NEVER shows in Devices or on my desk top (like a thumb-drive does for example) so I wouldn't know how to eject it anyway.
Any ideas on where I am going wrong?
Thanks!

I also have a MacBook Pro with Leopard. I have a new 500GB Lacie d2 safe external drive that my computer recognizes but Time machine does not. Formating the disk in journaled Mac OS Extended format does not solve the problem. Lacie says they are working on it. Anyone have any ideas?

Time machine - migrate USB setup to AirPort Extreme ?

Hi,
I use to backup to an external USB drive using Time Machine, great!
Now that I have just bought an AirPort Extreme router and that I've connected the USB drive to it, I wonder if it's possible to backup over the air without erasing the previously backed up data?
I would like to use the backups already on the drive because it's so long to backup these 140GB again over the air.

There is a way around it: buy the latest type of the Airport Extreme (the tall one). But even that solution isn't considered reliable: http://pondini.org/TM/AEQ2.html

Any issues using Apache's SOAP version 2 with Weblogic

Hi,
The Weblogic sever is not one in the list of servers that have been tried
succesfully with Apache's SOAP. This is the list:
Apache Tomcat v3.1
IBM WebSphere v3.02
JRun vx.y.z
Microsoft Internet Information Server
Has anyone tried SOAP with Weblogic?
A recent thread mentions some problems (and solutions) with Weblogic and Xerces 1.1.2.
SOAP requires Xerces 1.1.3. Therefore, I would also like to know if there is any issue
using Weblogic with Xerces 1.1.3. I am using Weblogic 4.5 but I would try 5.1 if necessary
for this.
Thanks in advance,
Javier

In the apache soap binary download, there is a soap web application ( in the
form of an exploded war file ). Just copy and paste this directory in the
domain's "applications" directory. You will need to add a servlet-mapping
element in the web.xml file, which could be something like this
<servlet-mapping>
<servlet-name>rpcrouter</servlet-name>
<url-pattern>/rpcrouter/*</url-pattern>
</servlet-mapping>
Cheers
Sandeep
"Jan-Paul" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Do you have something similar for the BEA Weblogic 6.0?
"Sudhir Kolli" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
You might want to take look at this:
David Jian <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Gavin:
I did the same thing except for servlet register. soap is webapp to WLS,so
I add:
weblogic.httpd.webApp.soap=D:/foo/soap-2_0/webapps/soap
to weblogic.properties. Because sopa20 has a web.xml file in
/foo/soap-2_0/webapp/soap/web-inf, I can only edit it to registerrpcrouter
and keep the default webapp as the same. Otherwise, how do you add thesoap
to you myserver/public_html? Unfortunately, it does not recognize the
URL
when I click the Visit link on soap admin page.
I edit my web.xml as
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE web-app
PUBLIC "-//Sun Microsystems, Inc.//DTD Web Application 2.2//EN"
"http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/web-app_2.2.dtd">
<web-app>
<servlet>
<servlet-name>
rpcrouter
</servlet-name>
<servlet-class>
org.apache.soap.server.http.RPCRouterServlet
</servlet-class>
<init-param>
<param-name>ServicesStore</param-name>
<param-value>DeployedServices.ds</param-value>
</init-param>
</servlet>
</web-app>
Can you try this? How did you add your rpcrouter servlet to the defualt
webapp?
Thanks
DJ
"Gavin Hyde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
After several painstaking hours I finally was able to get Apache Soap
v2.0
to work with weblogic. The version of weblogic I'm using is 4.51.
You
can
get Apaceh soap from http://www.apache.org/soap. This version of Soap
requires xerces v 1.2.1 which you can get from
http://www.apache.org/xerces-j. To make it work with weblogic you
have
to
first place the soap.jar file included with Apache soap and thexerces.jar
file in both the classpath AND WEBLOGIC_CLASSPATH. Don't ask me why
but
I
wasn't able to get it to work without it in both. Next you have to
add
the
directory that your class files reside in to the classpath. Next you
have
to register the RCPRouter servlet in weblogic. The line to do thislooks
like this:
weblogic.httpd.register.rpcrouter=org.apache.soap.server.http.RPCRouterServl
et
where rpcrouter can be any name you want to use to call the routerservlet.
That's all I had to do to set it up to view the stock quote example
and
the
address book. The calculator is giving me a few other probems at the
moment. Don't forget to deploy the different services but the command
for
that is given in the readme file for each example. For the router URL
I
used http://localhost:7001/rpcrouter which is that servlet you
registered
above.
Gavin
"Javier Deniz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hi,
The Weblogic sever is not one in the list of servers that have been
tried
succesfully with Apache's SOAP. This is the list:
Apache Tomcat v3.1
IBM WebSphere v3.02
JRun vx.y.z
Microsoft Internet Information Server
Has anyone tried SOAP with Weblogic?
A recent thread mentions some problems (and solutions) with Weblogic
and
Xerces 1.1.2.
SOAP requires Xerces 1.1.3. Therefore, I would also like to know if
there
is any issue
using Weblogic with Xerces 1.1.3. I am using Weblogic 4.5 but I
would
try
5.1 if necessary
for this.
Thanks in advance,
Javier

Can Time Machine backup USB Drive connected to Airport Extreme Base Station

I need a new N based wireless router. I would prefer to get just the $179 Base Station and not the $299 Time Capsule. I already have a nice external USB 500GB drive that I would connect to the AEBS. So, once I have this new wireless router/base station installed at home and I have the external USB drive connected to it, can my new Macbook Air with a USB connected 400GB drive be used to backup what is on the Macbook Air and also backup the 500GB USB drive info that is connected to the extreme base station?
Thanks
tj

I found this when searching Apple's web site but it is old, October 2007, and said it could not be done. Has this changed since then?
Here is what I found.
Mac OS X 10.5: Time Machine doesn't back up to AirPort Disks
* Last Modified on: October 26, 2007
* Article: 306833
Time Machine in Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard can be used to back up to many kinds of Mac OS Extended-formatted drives, but it does not support AirPort Extreme's AirPort Disk feature.
Time Machine can back up to another Mac running Leopard with Personal File Sharing, or to a Leopard Server volume, or an Xsan storage device.

Time machine - ext USB drive - failure

After reformatting & partitioning an external USB drive, I can't get Time Machine to do a back up on it (I've been using TM on several macs, including this one, and this drive, for years). The backup begins and after copying a few GBs of data, I get the message "the backup was not performed because an error occurred while copying files to the backup disk"
I have repaired the disk with Disk Utility, without success. I've erased the disk with Disk Utility & then repaired it. I've restarted many times. I can't see what the problem is.
The mini's internal HD is 320 GB; the external drive is 1TB, in 2-500 GB partitions. One partition is used for TM, the other for a daily SuperDuper backup. The SuperDuper backups are working fine.

As Mr. Ross pointed out above, start Console and check the logs. Find the error message "The backup was not performed because an error occurred while copying files to the backup disk," then look for preceding related errors. In my case I saw a bunch of Disk I/O errors that turned out to be a defective hard disk. Every time the backup got to a specific size (and presumably a specific location on the drive), Time Machine would fail and the disk would occasionally unmount by itself.

Restore issue using Time Machine when re installed the OS

I recently had problem with OS and apple told me, i need a new Hard Drive. They installed a new Hard Drive and returned my laptop with OS installed on it. They also created a user named "My name" which is not same as my prior user name. Luckily, i had all my data in Time machine.
Now, i am trying to restore the data and i am not able to. First when i tried, i went to time machine and click restore on the most recent one. It looked like it was just going fine since i didn't encounter any problem and it took around 2 hours to restore that 80 GB i had. Now the Machintosh HD size is around 90 GB but i don't see any data on my laptop. Even the applications are not there, so i got to desktop, or documents, or downloads... Nothings there, its like a new laptop but the Hard Drive size is increased as if it restored everything. Macintosh HD shows 4 folders
Library
Users
System
Applications
Each one of them is less than 1 GB so why is this taking around 100 GB of hard drive?
Also, is there a way i can restore everything i have from My time machine backup without having to do OS? I don't care if i have to format the hard drive, i guess i can't do that since the OS is installed on HD.
Any help? Its macbook air and i don't have CD ROM so i can't do OS again, i will have to go to Apple and i rather not.
I am also trying to use 'M'gration assistant' so i can migrate everything but the remaining space is only 18.8 GB and i need more than 80 GB to migrate everything. Any help is sincerely appreciated.
Message was edited by: mohitmadaaan

Unfortunately, Apple doesn't make it clear how to restore your whole system.
See #14 in [Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions|http://web.me.com/pondini/Time_Machine/FAQ.html] (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum).

HT201250 How to use time machine external hard drive on other devices

I have an external hard drive which i usually use to back up my macbook pro via time machine but if i put pictures or songs on the external hard drive and connect it to a gaming concole or a pc nothing happens. The concole and pc doesn't recognize the device. Is there anything i can do to make it so i can access files from other devices while still using it for time machine?

The external drive is Mac formatted for Time Machine. Your gaming console and PC won't be able to read its format.
If you are determined to use it for both purposes, you can partition the drive in Disk Utility. Format the PC partition for MS-DOS or whatever is required for your gaming console. You may or may not have sufficient space for both partitions. If you do not you will have to erase your Time Machine backups.

HT201250 Using time machine/ external hard drive to transfer data to new iMac?

I just purchased a new iMac and do not want to use migration assistant to transfer all the data from my old iMac to the new iMac. Does anyone know if I can just connect my external hard drive that was used as a Time Machine to the new computer to be able to access all my old data?

Yes, you should be able to do that. Visit Pondini's Time Machine FAQ should you need help.

HT3275 Unable to backup using Time Machine after hard drive was replaced

I recently had my hard drive fail and I had the hard drive replaced. I restored everything from my Time Capsule without a problem. Now when I go to backup with the Time Machine, it stalls. It states it is "backing up: 12.2MB of 227GB" for the past four hours. I have attempted to restart the backup and have had the same thing happen. Any suggestions? Thanks!

If you have restored the backup, did you correctly inherit the old backup when you setup TM again??
See Pondini on inheriting backups. B5 and B6
http://pondini.org/TM/Troubleshooting.html
Install the widget.. A1
Do a full reset of TM.. A4
Do a verify of the disk and the backup.. A5.
I strongly recommend you simply start over.. this happens with TM sometimes.
Archive off the old backups if you still want to keep them.. no bad idea in case there is something still to transfer.
In the airport utility erase the hard disk of the TC.. and then start again.
Make sure you do at least the first backup by ethernet as it is many times faster than wireless.

Time Machine: External Hard Drive with Additional Files + Back-up

Hi-
I am hoping someone can clarify something for me. I use a 500GB external drive (WD-My Book) to back-up my macbook periodically (2x month). I also use this same external drive to store additional files from an old computer.
I just spoke with some folks at Apple and they confused me and made me think that I might have inadvertently deleted some of the original non-back-up files. However, I have scoured the drive and everything seems to be there IN Addition to the backups.backupdb folder.
Can someone reassure me that I have not somehow corrupted/lost either the original files or the back-up files?
I have read the tutorials posted in 2009 - and realize that I should have partitioned the drive, but I didn't. Moving forward I will purchase a dedicated drive just for back-ups - but want to be able to sleep tonight and not worry . . .
Thanks!

claisb wrote:
Wow-Thanks again.
Apple Support was marginally helpful. After the rep told me I probably lost data, my anxiety rose . . .
My original Time Machine question to Apple Support =
My MacBook cannot handle all the media I have. So, I bought a Seagate 1TB to hold movies, photos, and music. If I have the 1TB Seagate plugged in to my MacBook at my designated back-up time, will Time Machine back both the HD and Seagate 1TB to a new (yet-to-be-purchased) 2TB External drive (which will be purchased solely for Time Machine files)?
Yes, as long as both are formatted for a Mac (see #1 in Formatting, Partitioning, Verifying, and Repairing Disks).
The Seagate might have been automatically excluded from backups; if so, it's easily removed, via Time Machine Preferences > Options. If it's listed in the exclusion box +*in black,+* (while it's connected) just select it and click the minus sign at the bottom. If it's listed in gray, it's not formatted properly -- Time Machine can't back it up, and you can't remove it from the exclusion list.
I'm having a difficult time knowing if I'm utilizing Time Machine properly. Since I have a MacBook it doesn't make sense for me to have Time Machine continuously running in the background. So, I only back-up 2 or 3 times a month. And, each time - I seem to get nervous that I'm not doing something correctly.
Time Machine was designed to back up hourly. On a desktop Mac, it's best to let it do just that.
On a laptop, of course, that's rarely practical. But you probably should back up more often -- when your internal HD fails (they all do, sooner or later), or something else awful happens to your Mac, you risk losing everything you've done since the last backup. Think of your Address book, browser bookmarks & history, documents, and especially your media files.
You might want to consider backing-up over your network. It doesn't sound like you also have a desktop Mac, but if you do, you can back up to a "shared" drive on it.
It's a lot more money, but Apple designed the Time Capsule as a combination wireless router and hard drive specifically for Time Machine backups. Most folks do the initial backup while connected via an Ethernet cable, but subsequently Time Machine can do those hourly backups wirelessly, as long as your Mac is awake and in range of the Time Capsule. See http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC344LL/A/Time-Capsule-2TB?fnode=MTY1NDA0Mg&mc o=MTMzNzU2MjI
But as long as you're diligent about doing your backups regularly via an external drive, a TC may not be worth the big bucks, especially if you already have a wireless router.

Any issue using Time Machine on USB drive with AirPort?

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