Any need to defrag (by (reverse-)cloning) after erasing Windows partition?

I did this before creating the partition because I didn't have enough contiguous space to create it, then started doing it again after erasing the partition thinking it might be safest to assume the space might not get used as efficiently as the space that had been reserved for OS X.
Based on some very quick research, it seems like this was a silly assumption. But I haven't seen any article explicitly addressing whether any kind of hard drive maintenance/optimization might be useful after erasing a partition. Can anyone confirm that this is because it's just not something to be concerned about?
I've already nearly finished by clone/reverse-clone process, but I was thinking about doing it for my girlfriend's computer, too, since it's in the same situation. Looking to save some time.
Thanks in advance.

Here is a link to an excellent user tip by ds store that will likely answer any question.
How to safely defrag a Mac's hard drive

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Greetings,
I have an early 2008 iMac 3.06 GHz Core 2 Duo with a 500 GB HD that I have steadily updated from Leopard to Mountain Lion. I also had partitioned my HD using Bootcamp 2.0 to run Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Everything hummed along nicely until the upgrade to OS 10.8.2. After that I could no longer start up in the Windows partition, ostensibly due to system registry files having become corrupt (or missing). After several vain attempts at recovering Vista, I determined to start over using Bootcamp (now upgraded to 5.0), but 5.0 would install Windows 7, apparently not Vista. I was able to remove the Windows partition using Bootcamp 5.0 (the Windows drive no longer shows up at start up when I hold down the option key Macintosh HD and Recovery 10.8.2 remain). I was hoping to recover the remaining HD space for the Mac. In Disc Utliity, it shows the Mac HD occupies 337 GB of space (about 86 GB is free). The remaining 162 GB is greyed out. If I resize the Mac HD to take up the remaining space and attempt to repartition it says "Partition Failed -- couldn't modify partition map because file system verification failed".
I would like to recoup as much of the 162 GB as feasible, but at this point neither Bootcamp nor Disc Utility seem to be helping. How can I accomplish this?Thanks.

I have a problem on my early 2011 macbook pro customized with core i5 processor and 500gb hdd regarding BOOTCAMP for Installing Windows 8 on OS 10.9 Mavericks
I tried to install windows 8 with bootcamp on OS X 10.9 Mavericks but while partitioning bootcamp was not responding and then i force quit it. After that i opened disk Utility and it showed no partitions for windows 8.
But then my HDD which had 210GB free later showed as 136.27 Gb free only. IT means that my partition was not successful and it took up 74GB on my HDD.
I dont want to erase my HDD and Reinstall OS X but want a solution to get my 74GB space back on my hdd without troubles of formatting and restoring from backup.
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Very Slow Performance After Removing Windows Partition

Hello,
Recently I went through a failed attempt at installing Windows 7 onto my Macbook Pro using boot camp. After this failure I decided to try again another day and used the boot camp assistant to remove the Windows partition.
Ever since doing this, my computer has been running extremely slowly and beach balls on the simplest of tasks. I have tried resetting the SMC and my PRAM all to no avail. I have also used Disk Utility to verify my disk and it says that my disk looks OK.
Has anyone else experienced this/know of any possible fixes?
Thank you for your help!

Hi,
This may happen sometimes due to anti-virus or firewalls also.Disable them and check if it works better...Or, otherwise try these:
- First uninstall the latest Windows Updates.
Click on the Start Button> Type Windows Updates in the Start Search box > Click View Installed Updates at appears at the top > In the Installed Updates screen Sort the updates as per installed date by clicking on the Down arrow next to installed and choose a date or last week...
Uninstall the updates that were installed recently one by one. Do not restart.Click cancel on restart window.
Then perform a clean boot as shown in the link and follow these steps:
Perform a clean boot >
In the start search box type msconfig > Click Startup tab > Click disable all at the bottom > Then Click services > check the box next to Hide all microsoft services at the bottom > Then select disable all > Click Apply > Ok and restart.
Once it restarts then go to windows updates and complete all the updates > Restart and check. If it works better then Go bak to msconfig and enable only the startup programs and services that are required. Enable few and check again..
Let me know if problem continues..
Note:
If you have HP Support Assistant installed on the computer(The Blue Question Mark) then open it ==> Complete all pending Updates & Tuneups==> Restart and Check. It may solve your problem
Although I am an HP employee, I am speaking for myself and not for HP.
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Startup manager doesnt show up after installing windows partition

I partitioned my imac and installed Windows.
After installation of Windows, It no more operates the options key. My computer starts automatically with Windows, and have no choice to switch between operating systems. it is impossible that i have formatted all disc since I am sure that I partitioned 700 gb of space for OSX, and 299 gb for Windows.
Why is this happening?

Hi lindaa_07,
The Startup Manager should show up when depressing the Option key on your keyboard no matter what operating system(s) is installed. One possibility comes to mind - is this an Apple keyboard and is it directly connected to the iMac? Some other keyboards may not function in a way that brings up the startup manager. See this article for reference -
Mac doesn't start up from disc - Apple Support
You may also wish to reset your iMac's NVRAM. See how to do this from this article -
How to Reset NVRAM on your Mac - Apple Support
Specifically -
Shut down your Mac.
Locate the following keys on the keyboard: Command (⌘), Option, P, and R.
Turn on your Mac.
Press and hold the Command-Option-P-R keys immediately after you hear the startup sound.
Hold these keys until the computer restarts and you hear the startup sound for a second time.
Release the keys.
After resetting NVRAM, you may need to reconfigure settings for speaker volume, screen resolution, startup disk selection, and time zone information.
Thanks for using Apple Support Communities.
Sincerely,
Brett L

How do i recover disk space after deleting windows partition?

I have a macbook pro running on maverick. I removed the windows partition using bootcamp assistant, but I did not gain the disk space back. The disk space is 500gb but it's still showing 250gb?

Yes, that matters. So your partition map looks something like this:
You see one single space surrounded in blue with the disk name in the center, sort of like the above. But, you say that this space is only 250 GBs of your 500 GB drive. In other words the space in the Size field reads 250 GBs, mol? Am I correct in my understanding?
I suggest you might give this a try: repair the hard drive using Disk Utility. Then restart the computer. See if that recovers the space. It would also help if you could send me a screen image like mine but of your Disk Utility display on the same settings.

Won't boot after resizing Windows partition

So I'm dual-booting Windows 7 with OSX using Boot Camp. The Windows partition had very little space left so I decided to go ahead and resize it. I first used Disk Utility inside OSX to shrink the size of the OSX partition. Worked like a beauty.
I then went into Windows and resized the Windows partition using Paragon's Partition Manager....big mistake.
I would gander a guess that in order to resize, the Paragon software has to reboot and boot into a partition it created. Which is all fine and good except I don't think (version 2010 of Partition Manager) the Mac bootup hardware likes this. Unfortunately, this seemed to have nuked my bootup of anything, including OSX.
Is there a way to recover/repair this without having to do wipe everything and reinstall?

Welcome to Apple Discussions,
You can boot to the Mac OS Install disk that came with the computer and run Disk Utility from from the disk to attempt to repair the Mac OS partition of the logical drive. If it can repair it then you may be able to boot.
Live partitioning is like doing open heart surgery on yourself. Its not a simple process. Doing it with a utility that isn't necessarily made for handling an HFS+ partition table (Like what the Mac OS uses) is tricker still.
Give Disk Utility a try. There are other directory repair programs out there (Drive Genius, Disk Warrior, etc.) that can do deeper levels of repair.
Were it my drive, I would probably just erase it and restore from backup (assuming you have all your data backed up and are confident that the backup is good). You don't want to keep working with a potentially damaged partition table. But thats just me.
Hope that helps.

\\?\volume{fabc216-f912-4ff7-ae4b-6914f7d120c53}\ after installing windows 8.1

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Hi,
You're asking this question in the wrong forum, this forum is meant for discussions on the forums redesign, not individual product support.
Your best bet to get some help with this issue will be to post in the Windows forums here:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows
Good luck.
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I cannot access windows partition after an unexpected stutdown

Hello everyone,
while I was working on my windows partition(windows 7 ultimate) in my imac 27' i5, a strong and continuous error sound and black screen appeared without shut down the machine,so I pressed the button( in the back of my monitor which is used to start up my machine).
After that windows partition only starts with safe mode (where so no much I can do),(in normal mode a blue window appears which says something about remove hardware, error and some things which I can not read cause it disappears too quickly (1sec).
So,after several efforts in save mode I understand that there was a problem with an installation of an antivirus program,which had not been installed correctly,and in save mode I got a message of catastrophic failure,and also I can not uninstall or remove this program under safe mode.
Till now I have been advised to delete bootcamp partition,and create it again and run windows again,so do you think this is the only solution?
Is there any way to access bootcamp files and modify under macintosh?
I need to mention that I have imac about two months, and usually I use windows partition (because I work with a program which is not supported by macintosh).
Also, do you think that deleting windows partition and creating again is there any case to harm my mac?
Which edition of windows is better compatible? (If there is one)
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I can not access windows partition after an unexpected shutdown

Hello everyone,
while I was working on my windows partition(windows 7 ultimate) in my imac 27' i5, a strong and continuous error sound and black screen appeared without shut down the machine,so I pressed the button( in the back of my monitor which is used to start up my machine).
After that windows partition only starts with safe mode (where so no much I can do),(in normal mode a blue window appears which says something about remove hardware, error and some things which I can not read cause it disappears too quickly (1sec).
So,after several efforts in save mode I understand that there was a problem with an installation of an antivirus program,which had not been installed correctly,and in save mode I got a message of catastrophic failure,and also I can not uninstall or remove this program under safe mode.
Till now I have been advised to delete bootcamp partition,and create it again and run windows again,so do you think this is the only solution?
Is there any way to access bootcamp files and modify under macintosh?
I need to mention that I have imac about two months, and usually I use windows partition (because I work with a program which is not supported by macintosh).
Also, do you think that deleting windows partition and creating again is there any case to harm my mac?
Which edition of windows is better compatible? (If there is one)

There is a Boot Camp forum that can probably do a better job at answering your question. It's possible because your system is messed up in Windows that all you need to do is hold down the Option key when starting your computer and then choose the partition to start from. There isn't a problem with OS X or Windows 7 I suspect it's what you have done by not following instructions on installing and removing software. If you do choose to remove the Windows partition then use Boot Camp Assistant to properly uninstall. You can fin the Boot Camp forum at:
https://discussions.apple.com/community/windows_software/boot_camp
Roger

Iam trying to reinstall the OS X after erasing the hard disc but it can't be completed it says u need to visit the purchase page ??? I tried many time to download it any help

Iam trying to reinstall the OS X after erasing the hard disc but it can't be completed it says u need to visit the purchase page ??? I tried many time to download it any help

On the bottom of the MBP is the serial number. Enter it here and post back the results:
https://getsupport.apple.com/GetSASO?
This will identify the exact MBP that you have.
Ciao.
The system is under maintenance now. Try this link instead:
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I have a MacBook, do I need to clear the memory or defragment the disk like I need to do on my work pc with Windows?

I have a MacBook, do I need to clear the memory or defragment the disk like I need to do on my work pc with Windows?
If so, what do I need to d

WOsloop_ORD wrote:
I have a MacBook, do I need to clear the memory or defragment the disk like I need to do on my work pc with Windows?
No you don't.
Mac's auto-defragment by writing 2GB+ sized files and smaller to one space on the drive, so you really don't need to worry about it.
If your going to parititon your drive or need a large space of free space, then Carbon Copy Cloning the entire OS x parittion to a external drive, option booting off of it and then erasing and reverse cloning is the approved method of defragmenting and freeing up disk space, rahter than using defragmentaiton software that can cause issues and make the machine inoperatible.
http://www.bombich.com/
If you need steps to *cough* clean your Mac of caches and whatnot less your kid/wife/mother/girlfriend/boss, see's it then the steps are as follows.
1: Clean/clear your browser caches first, delete your history etc. from within the program itself, delete any files on the machine by dragging to Trash and emtpy Trash (secure erase not needed if you follow the steps later)
2: Download CCleaner for the Mac and run that
3: Download OnyX for the Mac and run all the cleaning and maintainece, reboot at the end.
4: For scrubbing hard drives of traces (deleted files), use Apple's Disk Utility > Erase Free Space option: Zero (or 7x if you need military/foresic level type deletion, but it takes overnight to complete)
Make sure your browser plug-ins are current, Flash, Silverlight especially.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/
And your Mac needs more codecs, search for Perian, VLC and Flip4Mac, install those.

Do I need to defragment my iMac?

Hi Guys,
I have a question - do I need to defragment my iMac? I have noticed it is getting slower.
blueheron11

Well, I'm going to put a contrary view to others you have received here, blueheron.
Most users, as long as they leave plenty of free space available , and don't work regularly in situations where very large files are written and rewritten, are unlikely to notice the effects of fragmentation on either their files or on the drives free space much.
As the drive fills the situations becomes progressively more significant, however.
Some people will tell you that "OSX defrags your files anyway". This is only partly true. It defrags files that are less than 20 MB in size. It doesn't defrag larger files and it doesn't defrag the free space on the drive. In fact the method it uses to defrag the smaller files actually increases the extent of free space fragmentation. Eventually, in fact, once the largest free space fragments are down to less than 20 MB (not uncommon on a drive that has , say only 10% free space left) it begins to give up trying to defrag altogether. Despite this, the system copes very well without defragging as long as you have plenty of room.
Again, this doesn't matter much when the drive is half empty or better, but it does when it gets fullish, and it does especially when it gets fullish if you are regularly dealing with large files , like video or serious audio stuff.
If you look through this discussion board you will see quite a few complaints from people who find that their drive gets "slow". Often you will see that say that "still have 10 or 20 gigs free" or the like. On modern large drives by this stage they are usually in fact down to the point where the internal defragmentation routines can no longer operate , where their drives are working like navvies to keep up with finding space for any larger files, together with room for "scratch files", virtual memory, directories etc etc etc. Such users are operating in a zone where they put a lot more stress on their drives as a result, often start complaining of increased "heat", etc etc. Most obviously, though, the computer slows down to a speed not much better than that of molasses. Eventually the directories and other related files may collapse altogether and they find themselves with a next to unrecoverable disk problems.
By this time, of course, defragging itself has already become just about impossible. The amount of work required to shift the data into contiguous blocks is immense, puts additional stress on the drive, takes forever, etc etc. The extent of fragmentation of free space at this stage can be simply staggering, and any large files you subsequently write are likely to be divided into many , many tens of thousands of fragments scattered across the drive. Not only this, but things like the "extents files", which record where all the bits are located, will begin to grow astronomically as a result, putting even more pressure on your already stressed drive, and increasing the risk of major failures.
Ultimately this adds up to a situation where you can identify maybe three "phases" of mac life when it comes to the need for defragmentation.
In the "first phase" (with your drive less than half full), it doesn't matter much at all - probably not enough to even make it worth doing.
In the "second phase" (between , say 50% free space and 20% free space remaining) it becomes progressively more useful, but , depending on the use you put your computer to you won't see much difference at the higher levels of free space unless you are serious video buff who needs to keep their drives operating as efficiently and fast as possible - chances are they will be using fast external drives over FW800 or eSata to compliment their internal HD anyway.
At the lower end though (when boot drives get down around the 20% mark on , say, a 250 or 500 Gig drive) I certainly begin to see an impact on performance and stability when working with large image files, mapping software, and the like, especially those which rely on the use of their own "scratch" files, and especially in situations where I am using multiple applications simultaneously, if I haven't defragmented the drive for a while. For me, defragmenting (I use iDefrag too - it is the only third party app I trust for this after seeing people with problems using TechToolPro and Drive Genius for such things) gives a substantial performance boost in this sort of situation and improves operational stability. I usually try to get in first these days and defrag more regularly (about once a month) when the drive is down to 30% free space or lower.
Between 20% and 10% free space is a bit of a "doubtful region". Most people will still be able to defrag successfully in this sort of area, though the time taken and the risks associated increase as the free space declines. My own advice to people in this sort of area is that they start choosing their new , bigger HD, because they obviously are going to need one very soon, and try to "clear the decks" so that they maintain that 20% free buffer until they do. Defragging regularly (perhaps even once a fortnight) will actually benefit them substantially during this "phase", but maybe doing so will lull them into a false sense of security and keep them from seriously recognising that they need to be moving to a bigger HD!
Once they are down to that last ten per cent of free space, though, they are treading on glass. Free space fragmentation at least will already be a serious issue on their computers but if they try to defrag with a utility without first making substantially more space available then they may find it runs into problems or is so slow that they give up half way through and do the damage themselves, especially if they are using one of the less "forgiving" utilities!
In this case I think the best way to proceed is to clone the internal drive to a larger external with SuperDuper, replace the internal drive with a larger one and then clone back to it. No-one down to the last ten percent of their drive really has enough room to move. Defragging it will certainly speed it up, and may even save them from major problems briefly, but we all know that before too long they are going to be in the same situation again. Better to deal with the matter properly and replace the drive with something more akin to their real needs once this point is reached. Heck, big HDs are as cheap as chips these days! It is mad to struggle on with sluggish performance, instability, and the possible risk of losing the lot, in such a situation.
Cheers
Rod

Need to defrag external HDD?

Hi everyone, it's been a while but I'm back. Okay so now that I officially got the right computer up and running, I have a question about my external HDD. I have been using my My Book to store files and apps from both my Windows and OSX side of my MBP. When I was in windows today, after defragging my Windows partition on my internal, I analyzed my external drive and it said that it needs to be defragged. My question is this, doesn't OSX automatically do this already or is there a way to manually do it? Or do I need to defrag the external with Windows. Any help would be much appreciated.

OS X only handles fragmentation with its own filesystem (HFS+) as a result of the system design (many unix-like operating systems have similar characteristics). External drives accessible to Windows (those based on NTFS or FAT32 filesystems) are not automatically defragmented by OS X and will need to be defragmented by an external tool.
Chances are your external drive is FAT32.

I am running 10.6.8 and using iweb for my web site. After several SEO analysis they all indicate I need H1-6 header tags. After looking at the source code I see there are none in iweb. Is it necessary to add? If so, how do I add H Tags to iweb.

I am running 10.6.8 and using iweb for my web site. After several SEO analysis they all indicate I need H1-6 header tags. After looking at the source code I see there are none in iweb. Are they necessary to add? Why would one add these tags and how do I add H Tags to iweb? And are there examples to look at? I am slowly learning about simple web design and assumed that iweb was stand alone without having to write code. Is this one of the reasons iweb is no longer supported? Thanks for looking at this!

A simple text page like this:
Heading
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          text paragraph ....
Is traditionally represented by html tags like:
<h1>Heading</h1>
     <h2>sub heading</h2>
          <p>text paragraph ... </p>
I would guess that the use of h1-h6 tags helps search engines to understand the structure of a page as the tags imply a certain structure.
This can be compared to more generic tags like <div> that could represent any kind of content - and may be what iWeb uses (you'll have to check yourself).
I would generally recommend that you use some kind of up to date blog/site building tool, perhaps Wordpress or Squarespace (I haven't used either one myself) that support current web technologies - this should reduce your SEO issues and make it easier to properly support mobile/tablet users.

HeLLO I AM USING AN IPHONE 5 From Last few days I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPEND TO MY SET ITS DISTURBING ME A LOT DON'T KNOW WHY BUT I AM NOT ABLE TO UPGRADE ANY APPS BECAUSE WHEN I AM TRYING TO UPGRADE OR DOWNLOAD ANY APP THROUGH WIFI ND 3G BOTH AFTER SOMETIME

HeLLO I AM USING AN IPHONE 5 From Last few days I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPEND TO MY SET ITS DISTURBING ME A LOT DON'T KNOW WHY BUT I AM NOT ABLE TO UPGRADE ANY APPS BECAUSE WHEN I AM TRYING TO UPGRADE OR DOWNLOAD ANY APP THROUGH WIFI ND 3G BOTH AFTER SOMETIMES IT STOPS DOWNLOADING AND SHows THAT "UNABLE TO DOWNLOAD THIS APP" IT'S SHOWING THIS MESSAGE IN EVERY APP AND ALSO AT ITS DISTURBING ME AT THE TIME OF WATCHING ANY VIDEOS TOO. BECAUSE WHEN I AM TRYING TO WATCH ANY VIDEO IN YOUTUBE IT'S DISTURBING VIDEOS ARE NOT PLAYING ND SOUNDS ARE NOT COMING PROPERLY ND THE IMAGE QUALITY ALSO BECOMES POOR AND THE VIDEO STOPS AFTER SOME TIMES THIS PROBLEM IS HAPPENING AT ALL THE VIDEO ND IT'S HARASSING A LOT. THE SAME PROBLEM IS ALSO HAPPENING TO MY BROTHER'S PHONE TOO.. REQUEST TO APPLE PLEASE ANALYSE AND FIXED THE PROBLEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE OR ELSE MAYB I NEED TO STOP USING APPLE PRODUCTS. CAUSE IT'S HARASSING MY DAILY LIFE A LOT....

These are user to user forums. You ARE NOT addressing Apple by posting here.
Also, why are you YELLING at us?? Stop using ALL CAPS.
What steps have you done to try and fix the problem?

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