Any tips before installing Leopard 10.5?

Hi,
I recently purchased Mac OSX Leopard family pack to upgrade my iMac G5 which currently has Panther 10.3.9, and then to upgrade my Macbook Pro which has Tiger 10.4.11. Before I install the disc, is there anything that I should do or check that might facilitate the upgrade? For example, should I run disc utilities, disc repairs, etc.?
Thanks,
Art

1. Check to be sure you have enough physical memory. I currently have 4Gbytes on my MBP. If not the Apple/Samsung factory memory is available from http://www.macsales.com/ and it is a lot less expensive.
2. You might want to verify your disk before you install the new O/S.
3. It might be time to upgrade to 250Gbytes on your disk if you plan to load it up with audio and video.
4. Check to be sure you have upgraded your router firmware to the latest version. If its more than a year old you may want to consider buying a new router. iChat is a little finicky (b/c of NAT) about the router it uses for video conference. I bought a Time Capsule and ALL my video problems disappeared. Go figure. Mass market routers like Linksys can't keep pace with the new machines on the market.
5. Install 10.5 via "Archive and install". You will be able to select this "Option" at the "Select destination" screen. This produces the cleanest and most reliable upgrade installation. Also, when you go to 10.5.2, download the Combo upgrade to your desktop and install it from there. This method offers the most reliable upgrade to 10.5.2.
6. Check any third party applications to be sure they are compatible with Leopard.

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pomme-homme wrote:
OK, so I am ready to take the plunge. I want to back up my Tiger HD before installing Leopard but have some confusion about the best way to do this. I have Super Duper and a FireWire LaCie external HD with sufficient space to clone my Tiger system. However, there are other files on the LaCie and it is not partitioned. If I clone the Tiger HD to the LaCie, are all the other files going to be erased?
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Reading through all the 'posts of woe' and nashing of teeth and ******** and, well you get the picture, one thing is coming to the front as the No.1 best thing to do before installing Leopard........BACK UP YOUR COMPUTER...down load superduper (for free) and do an 'all files' back up, then make sure you can boot off that external HDD and then attempt the install. Actually for good measure get another HDD and manually back up all your data, files and media so at least you have another back up just in case. Also have your tiger discs at hand in case of a massive meltdown.
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