Anybody using a firewire volume as a startup disk?

I am
Anybody able to go straight to the Startup firewire volume without the Option key?
I can't
Is this the way it is supposed to work?
Did not work this way in the bad old days of Mac OS and skuzzy

The only way to permanently set any volume as a startup volume is to use the Startup Disk preferences. Open Startup Disk, select your external volume (it must have a valid system installed,) then click on the Restart button. The selected volume will now be your permanent startup volume until you specifically change it using Startup Disk. For a temporary one-time only change use OPTION booting.

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I use the Firewire Solo and I haven't had any problems like that ever, in the past couple years.
I installed the most recent driver from the M-Audio website and followed all of their directions for installation and use when I received the interface. I am using version 1.1 of the system preferences pane and I have not updated since, simply because it has continued to work perfectly even after os updates.
Are these warnings coming from GB or from the M-Audio prefences pane? Are you shutting down, then connecting the Solo, then restarting? That has been my only complaint about the Solo. Sorry to hear you are having difficulty.
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From Western Digital's support web page [HERE|http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/stdadp.php?pfaqid=1715]:
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Power PC based Macintosh computers are unable to boot to a My Book external hard drive.
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Answer
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Intel Macintosh computers are not affected by this issue and are able to be booted from My Book external hard drives if the partition on the drive has been setup as a GUID partition scheme.
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Sorry if this is a dumb question!
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I am getting a message that my startup disk is full, what files can be safely removed to open up space or can I use an external HD for my startup disk?

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It needs free unfragmented space on your boot drive.
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System
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scratch
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Amyt:
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Go to the installer menu and launch Disk Utility.
Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left sidebar.
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Check box to install Mac OS 9 drivers.
Select second partion and follow procedure above.
Click partition button at the bottom.
Select First Aid tab.
Run Repair Disk.
Quit Disk Utility,
Open installer and install OS
(You may want to choose to customize and deselect Foreign Language Translations and Additional Printer Drivers. It is also advisable to select to install BSD subsystems).
Then you can clone your Jaguar partition back.
Should you need further assistance, please do not hesitate to post back.
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cornelius
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lakeshore wrote:
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I had Snow Leopard installed on one (HD2) and Mavericks istalled on the other.(HD1)
Both volumes were visible in the Startup Disk option in System Preferences and I could restart from either.
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