Anyone order from Apple Store getting anywhere?

Hi all:
I was already booked on a trip to the East Coast when I heard that the iPhone was going to be released on the 29th and figured it wouldn't be a huge deal as I'd just order online and have it waiting for me when I got home (optimistically believing the stories of Apple laying in a sizable inventory). Unfortunately when I went to do so I saw the 2-4 week expected ship date and called Apple only to be told pretty much nothing (politely but nothing all the same). So has anyone ordered online and had their order move forward at all? I've seen some other posts that indicate that other people had called and heard that the phones would actually ship early in the coming week but I just though I'd ask here to see if anyone had heard anything different.
Of course after reading the problems that some people are having with activation and with me wanting to port my old number but it would still be nice to know when I might expect to have my phone.

I probably should have mentioned that I did place an order as the AT&T store that was right down the street from me here in Manchester, NH is already out and that yes, when I get back in the Bay Area I'll go check one of the local (Bay Area) Apple Stores and if they got them will buy it and then cancel the online order. And yes, I'm in agreement that they probably came out with the 2-4 week time line just in case but have to say that I think that was pretty ridiculous. Hyping the living heck out of the thing and then not making them immediately available at the one place that everyone has access to especially given the online activation process makes no sense at all to me...
Oh well, it will get to me when it gets to me.

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