Anyone paired up a MSI K8N Neo4 mobo and a thermaltake soprano w/PSU

hello,
im pretty new here, im about to build a new computer, im getting a MSI K8N NEO4-F, and the case im getting is a thermaltake soprano w a thermaltake PSU, some ppl are telling me that the PSU only has a 20-pin power connector, will that work in the K8N neo4-f mobo ?
any help would be appreciated
thanks

i didnt mess with the door alarm thing lol didnt want to waste my time. I just use my aspire 520 watt the amps are in my profile its only a 20 pin but it kicks a$$, Strong amps and great cooling. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817148008 its a little longer so when installing and removing psu just unscrew the four little screws for the top USB

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MOVED: MSI K8N NEO4-F And PC4200 DDR2

This topic has been moved to AMD64 nVidia Based board.
MSI K8N NEO4-F And PC4200 DDR2

As far as I know, ddr2 will not be supported by AMD until next year - so we can all upgrade again! You have to go with ddr if you want them to work with mobos designed for AMD chips. Just my 2 cents.

Anybody have an "MSI K8N Neo4/sli and?

Just a quick question, my cpu temp goes down when a fan is blowing over the mobo, do you guys have the sam prob? I get like 36ilde 40 load w/o a fan and 32/36 with a fan. I normaly dont have a fan because I have water cooling.
Edit: the temps are at stock speeds with a athlon 4000, and when I overclock it to 2.9hgz, the temo goes up 2/3degrees. And I got better temp oon air, about 34/38, with a Thermaltake heatsink.
Oh, and before somebody asks if I have platinum or diamond, niether
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo4/SLI

The temp sensor itself is inside the die of the CPU, the external IC that makes useful data out of this is the Winbond W83627THF.
It is located on the very "top right" edge of the board right by the power connector and the memory slots.
picture from Hardocp(chip at lower right):
http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTEwNzMxNTk1OEc0eDNITDVkeFVfMV81X2wuanBn
Honestly I am not sure the exact point where the "heating effect" comes from. Wheather it's the actual heating of the Winbond chip or the traces on the way to the chip run too close to something hot. Either way the lack of air circulation on the top half of the board when using, for example water cooling, creates the "false temperature" readings. Obviously the more pressing issue besides false readings, is the fact when not using air cooling, we are removing cooling from the VRM's, RAM, etc, etc which can easily shorten their life and/or produce instability.

Bluetooth problem with msi K8N Neo4-54G

I buy a msi K8N Neo4-54G and it was said on the box : "MSI Dual-Net Card (World First 802.11g+Bluetooth on single PCI Card)"
dont find any driver or something for bluetooth, but Wi-Fi work perfectly.
I hope someone know how to fix that problem.
thanks for your help

Quote from: crazy on 05-January-06, 16:07:28
You may firstly clear cmos and load defaults in the bios, and if it is available, please attach us a picture of the screen which the issue occurred when you hit enter during the its detecting the SATA hard disk. I am a little confused about what you said. Please tell me what changes have you made before the issue took place. I just want to help, so do many other people. But please firstly give us more detailed information.
I did it and nothing! Should I restore the original bios version that came with the mother?
I'll explain the problem: You enter BIOS, go to the disk properties (where says LBA, LARGE, CYLINDERS, HEAD, etc) and hit enter, usually the screen goes blue and shows a line at the bottom of the screen (they are like triangles pointing downside) and 2 seconds after everithing comes back showing the data of the disk ok? Well, now it hangs forever in the "triangles pointing downside" part and I have to restart the machine...
Does this belongs to the issue of the K8n neo4 platinum with the maxtor hdd's ??? The mobo is malfunctioning?
Please helpppp! Thanks!

[Athlon64] AGP problem with my new MSI K8N NEO4-F

Hey!
Just bought a MSI K8N NEO4-F and got a serious problem with the AGP port, the graphics card wont work!
When I install my radeon 9700 pro I can't get a picture, everything else works including a pci graphics card.
I don't have a diskette drive so I haven't upgraded the bios yet, but I find it hard to belive that you have to upgrade to get a picture.

Yes I managed exactly that. I've been out of the computer building business for a while so I didn't know the graphics ports had changed.
I will invest in a graphic card as well, thanks for putting me on track
(The manual sais something about the port supporting 8x agp though? )

Considering the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

Hello,
I'm currently deciding whether or not to get the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, and I just have a few questions.
1) How beginner friendly is it?
2) Does it take a lot of work to make it run or can you just plug everything up and the system will run fast and stable?
3) How stable is this board? I've heard that MSI boards were unstable, so how stable is this specific board?
4) I know this board is good at gaming, but how about office work like using Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc.?
5) I plan to keep this system for at least four years, will this motherboard give a lot of trouble? And how reliable is it?
5) Can ya'll share your experiences with MSI?
Thanks for any help.

Quote from: ExpertNovice on 30-June-05, 03:43:00
Is the MSI website http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo4_Platinum/SLI&class=mb where MSI names the board as "K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI" incorrect? It wouldn't be the first time a typographical error occurred.
If not then the OP may simply have not had enough room to enter a complete description.
No it is not incorrect, I am staring at the box mine came in. It says Platinum Edition-K8N Neo4/SLI, there is also a the non platinum version K8N Neo4/SLI and the non-SLI K8N Neo 4
anyway,
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Maybe I'll get the Platinum SLI edition instead so that I can upgrade later to SLI without having to buy a new card. If I do get the SLI I'll use a single card for now and put in the second card later when it's needed. Does the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI have any problems with running a single video card in non-SLI mode? And I've noticed that the SLI edition doesn't have a x1 PCIe or x4 PCIe slot, is sacraficing these two slots (as well as a regular PCI slot) worth it for SLI capabilities?
to answer that question, no it does not have problems running a single card in non SLI mode. It runs like a champ. I pernonally would not use the extra PCI slots, so to me SLI outweighs scarificing the extra PICe slots.

MSI K8N Neo4-F Problems

I'm on my very first build and I'm running into problems. When I power up, all the fans spin up properly and the D-Link LED's go through the usual settings but it gets stuck on the combination that the manual translates into "Initializing Floppy Drive Controller - This will initializing Floppy Drive and controller." The D-Link LED's just hang there and I've left it alone for a couple minutes and it still wouldn't budge. On the screen, sometimes I can see the POST message and other times I see nothing at all on the screen from the various times I've restarted the computer. Any idea why it's hanging on this certain combination and not booting me to the BIOS setup screens? These are my system specs...thanks:
MSI K8N Neo4-F Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice
ZALMAN CNPS7000B-AlCu Heatsink
Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-380 ATX12V 380W Power Supply
OCZ Performance Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive
Leadtek 6600GT

I take that into consideration! But as hardware goes, no two are exactly the same. But let's not focus on that, as I believe it could be problems elsewhere.
Posted by: Talannon
Hi!
First, the problem is I made this computer for a friend and when I boot the computer it always freeze at startup. I hear the normal bip when you start the computer then I see the first screen where it says to hit del to enter SETUP but it freeze there. I can't even go into BIOS. I have 2x512 MB in dual channel and when I remove one I can usually be able to go into the bios, then once there I check if everything is there by default ( I already reset cmos ) and it looks good then I reboot and it freeze again. I really don't know what to do...
But I will tell you the whole story. First I get the computer and at first boot I get no video signal. I see that I forgot to put the spacer between MoBo and the case. Then I fix that, comp boot I go into bios. I made another error by setting the FSB speed at 400 mhz because I read that it was going at 400 (I forgot that it was 200 x 2) so I reboot and I get nothing. I reset the cmos by pressing the button then i can get into bios.
From there I changed the boot order and I make it so MSI doesn't show his logo when you boot but you get the POST instead. I exit and save then I start getting that problem... Since then I am not able to go into BIOS unless I play with the memory module. Another thing is when I can't get into BIOS I watch the 4 LEDs on the USB thing you add to the MoBo (definition here http://www.msicomputer.com/support/sup_tshoot.asp#1_3 scroll down a bit). When I can't get into BIOS I get a combination (1 and 3 red) saying "testing base and Extended Memory, Testing base memory from 240k to 640K and extended memory above 1MB using various patterns" and when I changed the memory and I get into the bios (2 red) I get " Initializing Floppy Drive Controller, This will initialize Floppy Drive and controller". I got that from the book that came with the board.
The comp is:
MSI K8N Neo4-F
Athlon 64 3200+
MSI NX6600 TD 256 FX6600 PCI-E
Antec SLK1650 MINI TOWER CASE 350W
Kingston 1024 MB DDR400 Dual KVR
Maxtor 120Gb S-ATA
If anyone can help I would appreciate it! Thank you!
Posted by: Talannon
I will add that I tested the ram on another computer and it works fine. Also, when I only have 1 module of ram installed he start to detect the ide drive and sata HD but when It get to the floppy it fail. From there I can go in the bios but when I restart he won't even start detecting stuff he will only freeze after he wrote the memory testing line and then I can't do nothing... or I can hit continue and it even got started with the windows xp install but it crashed, it didn't take long. Reboot and crash at verifying DMI pool data or something like that after I hit continue again after detect floppy fail.
I tried resetting the cmos then reboot and it said that my config was in overcloaking mode and to reset it on the bios... But there was nothing to change. Also tried to continue there but it stop at Verifying DMI Pool Data.
The bios installed by default is v 1.3, which is the only version there's not on the msi website... strange
Anyway I pretty much said all I could, hope someone could help but I have a feeling that the MoBo as problem...
Posted by: keymaker
hmm......try takin out all of thec computer parts out of the computer case and this time only reseat the following devices: case, motherboard, cpu, ram, and videocard.
also try replacing the floppy cable and see if the computer will be able to detect the floppy this time. good luck
Posted by: Talannon
It still freeze the same way with only cpu ram and video card on mobo...
Posted by: zach1288
Try leaving your battery out longer, Some CMOS batteries can take up to 8 hours to clear.
Posted by: linderman
Welcome to TSF:
two items for consideration
A) what is your power supply and specs / this is by FAR the most underated overlooked component that plays such a vital role / the generics PSU just plain cant cut the mustard / they rely on cheap price to lure sales not performance / it doesnt take much of a fluctuation in power to send the newer systems baulking.
B) download and run memtest86.com on your memory modules / sounds like you may have a trouble maker there. Test them one at a time first / then as a pair
please post back with your findings
regards
joe
Posted by: Talannon
It could still play a role if I go back in bios and the settings seem to be back at normal? (like the FSB at 200 instead of 400 mhz like I tried to change at first.
edit: Power supply is a 350W smart Power by Antec
Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Hi,
An Antec is a great power supply, but frankly, don't think a 350 of anything is big enough to handle what you have. Even an Antec, you probably would need a minimum of a 450 to 480 with a very strong amperage rating. Antec and Enermax is where good power supplies are made if the wattage is what you need. That is the first place I would look after the memory thing is checked.
Posted by: Talannon
So... I made the test with the ram with this computer and the ram seems to have no problem at all.
So I guess I should try with a better power supply? But even a 350W with only the motherboard, cpu/fan, ram and video card would still not be enough to run it? Because I still have problem while running only that... Before I go out and buy a good power supply I would like to make sure it could be the source of the problem.
BTW, thank you all for the help so far, I hope we can find the problem :(
Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Hi,
If you have a Best Buy nearby, go find a good power supply and if it is not the problem, take it back or return it. That way, it would not be an expensive venture that might not solve the problem. Just be careful how you deal with the packaging so you can return it if it does not help. That sounds like the best solution at this time.
Posted by: Talannon
Ok, one other I will add is I noticed a trend. If I start the computer I can usually go all the way and start windows installation but it will stop working right after I hit enter to actually start windows installation. If I reset it will always hang at the beginning and unable to even get into the BIOS...
If I put the ram in dual channel setting it won't even start on first startup. But if it's on single channel it will at least let me go to the bios and such (but never recognized the floppy). Dual channel take more juice to run?
With this in mind is it possible that the mobo and/or cpu still be the cause of the problem?
Anyway I think I will try to get a power supply of at least 450W to test it. Just for testing purpose, can I get any power supply even if it's not antec or enermax as long as it has high voltage? I can test it and if it's working I can always return it and go buy a real power supply from antec or enermax where there is one.
Posted by: ginger6
I dont think it is your power supply, the power supply you have should handle what you have got no problem, the problem will be your memory...... are the 2 memory sticks you have identical, ie: same manufacturer, same speed, same chips on the board..... to run in dual channel mode you need both sticks to be exactly identical otherwise you will have problems.
What brand is the memory, if it is a cheap brand then you may have compatibilty problems.
Have you run memtest86 when both sticks are inserted but not in dual channel mode?
Kevin
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Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talannon
Ok, one other I will add is I noticed a trend. If I start the computer I can usually go all the way and start windows installation but it will stop working right after I hit enter to actually start windows installation. If I reset it will always hang at the beginning and unable to even get into the BIOS...
If I put the ram in dual channel setting it won't even start on first startup. But if it's on single channel it will at least let me go to the bios and such (but never recognized the floppy). Dual channel take more juice to run?
With this in mind is it possible that the mobo and/or cpu still be the cause of the problem?
Anyway I think I will try to get a power supply of at least 450W to test it. Just for testing purpose, can I get any power supply even if it's not antec or enermax as long as it has high voltage? I can test it and if it's working I can always return it and go buy a real power supply from antec or enermax where there is one.
Hi,
Before you go out and get another power supply, you need to make sure you have everything hooked up correctly.
Try flipping the floppy cable over and see if the BIOS recognizes it. That is a common mistake that all of us make from time to time. The red stripe (pin 1) goes toward the power plug on that one and it is opposite as a rule from the other ribbon cables, because the normal power plug on the hard drives have the power plug on the opposite side.
Second, tell us exactly what drives you have and how you have them hooked up...here is an example: Maxtor 30 gig IDE, set as master, on the end of the ribbon cable, and connected to IDE #1.
Third, the memory thing does seem to be an issue. Is the memory that you have listed on the QVL list in the motherboard manual?
For now, for testing purposes, just leave one stick of Ram in the board, and do follow the instructions in the manual about where that single stick should be. As an example, some boards require that when you use a single stick, that it is in Dimm2, Dimm3, or even Dimm4 instead of Dimm 1. That feature is new to some who don't regularly build, so please check that out before you go too far.
Let us know these things and we will try to get right back to you.
Posted by: Talannon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Try flipping the floppy cable over and see if the BIOS recognizes it. That is a common mistake that all of us make from time to time. The red stripe (pin 1) goes toward the power plug on that one and it is opposite as a rule from the other ribbon cables, because the normal power plug on the hard drives have the power plug on the opposite side.
It will only go in the way I put it. Other thing is the power supply is an ATX with 20 pin. My manual says it should work but it also says that I could use a 24 pin SSI power supply but never use those. Again I am sure the power supply is in correctly cause I couldn't plug it any other way anyway.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Second, tell us exactly what drives you have and how you have them hooked up...here is an example: Maxtor 30 gig IDE, set as master, on the end of the ribbon cable, and connected to IDE #1.
Maxtor 160 gig connected on sata 1 and there doesn't seem to ba master/slave option. Is it because it's SATA? It also seems to be detected as IDE THIRD Master on the first page.
LG DVD +/- RW in master on ide 1
Nothing on IDE 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Third, the memory thing does seem to be an issue. Is the memory that you have listed on the QVL list in the motherboard manual?
My ram is PC3200 (DDR 400) it's supported from what I can read in the book
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
For now, for testing purposes, just leave one stick of Ram in the board, and do follow the instructions in the manual about where that single stick should be. As an example, some boards require that when you use a single stick, that it is in Dimm2, Dimm3, or even Dimm4 instead of Dimm 1. That feature is new to some who don't regularly build, so please check that out before you go too far.
Manual says it should be in a green slot first which is dimm 1 and 3. I put it in dimm 1 ans it should be fine. The setup like it is now, is in the combination list in the manual.
Posted by: Talannon
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginger6
I dont think it is your power supply, the power supply you have should handle what you have got no problem, the problem will be your memory...... are the 2 memory sticks you have identical, ie: same manufacturer, same speed, same chips on the board..... to run in dual channel mode you need both sticks to be exactly identical otherwise you will have problems.
What brand is the memory, if it is a cheap brand then you may have compatibilty problems.
Have you run memtest86 when both sticks are inserted but not in dual channel mode?
Kevin
I've only run test with the ram installed separately...
I also bought my ram as dual channel so I got a kit from Kingston KVR. So they should be identical to each other. Kingston is in the list of supported memory on MSI webpage of the motherboard...
Posted by: Talannon
So I tested the both ram at the same time but in single channel and no error.
One thing I notice is when I boot the ram is showed to go at 201 mhz instead of 200. Not sure if it says something...
Posted by: whodatknocking
Quote:
First I get the computer and at first boot I get no video signal. I see that I forgot to put the spacer between MoBo and the case.
this might be a real problem, we'll see
but first:
go into your bios and relaxe the timings on your ram, maybe 3-4-4-8
pump the voltage up on the ram a notch,to maybe 2.7 or 2.8
post back
Posted by: Talannon
humm I'm not sure what I should be looking for in the bios for that.
If I put Timing mode in manual instead of auto I can change a bunch of thing. I have no idea what you mean by 3-4-4-8... There is something in that called CAS# latency (Tcl) which is by default at 2.5 but could change it to 2.0 or 3.0. Is that the voltage?
Posted by: whodatknocking
try 3
no it isnt the voltage, the voltage would be in another spot in the bios
post back
Posted by: Talannon
changed nothing
I guess I am to a point to check the cpu on another socket 939 MoBo to see if it's the cpu or the MoBo the problem. With everything we tried I start to doubt it could be anything else.

DDR 500 memory compatible with MSI K8N Neo4 Platninum?

Hi Folks,
I have a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum PCB version 1 (S939/Nvidia NForce 4 Ultra), running the latest BIOS version. I wondered if DDR 500/PC4000 memory would work at DDR500 speeds? I note that the MSI webpage for this mobo only mentions DDR400 and in the manual, the BIOS description under "Advanced Chipset Features" - "Memclock Index Value (MHz)" says the maximum speed is 200MHz. However, when I go to this setting in my own BIOS, I can set it to 250MHz. I assume that this should give me DDR500? Would altering this "Memclock Index Value" above 200 MHz cause any other problems with FSB, CPU, HT, PCIe, PCI speeds etc. or is it completely independent? Does anyone have any recommendations of what sticks would work best (I was thinking 2 * 1024 Mb of Corsair XMS or OCZ XTC). Now that DDR2 is standard and DDR prices are creeping up, there doesn't seem to be much difference in price between DDR 400 and DDR 500 memory. Evern if my mobo can't support it, is there any merit in buying DDR 500 memory and running it at DDR 400 or intermediate speeds?
Cheers!

The x2 4800 would run 10x250=2500mhz.
With ddr500 it's beautifull,since you can use the cas latencies which are suited for the memory.
I have to lower my timings a bit to run them at 500mhz.Not much though,but I don't know what the long term prospect is for my memory if I maintain that for long periods of time.
As for running games,I found lower cas timings make my games run smoother opposed to the slightly higher ddr clock with slower timings.
But as mentioned,set cpu vcore 1 step higher in bios,leave the memory at auto,set cpu fsb or HTT at 250mhz,and use the default multiplier of 10 or also leave on auto.'The memory runs in spec and you wont damage it,only the cpu's get another 100mhz and should be a little bit more spicey while temps shouldn't go much higher as it is now.
The sticks should fit physically and I ran mine once at 266mhz stable,and they are just pc3200@200mhz

MSI K8N neo4 -F User comments PLS help ....is it a good buy?

As above
Can those MSI K8N neo4 -F give me comments of the board. Did you all regert buying this mobo
What are the good pros and cons
HAve been hearing some complains about HSY in the MOBO is a bit too noisy, is it true ?...
How does it comapres to gigabyte K8NF-9 Which cost $195 here in sg
MSI K8N neo4 -F cost about $240
So which more worth to get ?
Thanks

LOL Didn't you know that no overclocker is ever happy with any parts??? They never allow them to acheive the ultimate 300% overclock they are always after... I have yet to meet an overclocker that actually liked their parts and peices. It is usually the MB they blaim no matter what other junk they have in the system. It is just the way of the world. Read any tech forum and look at who is doing the screaming and why.
Simply put at normal speeds things work well for most anyone if they have stuff set up properly. Once you enter the dark hallways of the overclocker though you are more often on your own and you better know what you are doing or have a fat wallot. Overclockers tend to change parts out more often than Bill Gates changes his socks.
That is not to say that it isn't fun to push the envelope a bit or shoot for that next level. Follow the dark side and you can acheive greatness or end in smoking rubble. Just remember though that is more on you to acheive that goal than on any parts maker and you will be set into the right mindset.

Problem witn MSI K8N Neo4 platinum

Hello!
Got a strange problem.
gonna give u my specs for the pc first:
AMD64 3000+
2*512mb PC3200 Kingston Hyper X
MSI K8N Neo4 platinum
His x800xl
Seagate 80gb,IDE 3,5 ( currently Linux is installed on it)
Here is the problem.
I've just put all the parts together. Turned on the PC, got into boot screen, pressed delete to enter bios, no problem here, change the first boot to: Cd rom. Beacuse I'm gonna install Xp on it. save and exit the bios, the post(?) screen shows up with sume info, and at the button i can choose: Press F1 to continue or press DEL to enter setup.
I press contunie and a blac screen show up and it said hit ctrl+s to enter raid meny, or something like that, press just enter, the a long list is been gone threw, ends up with : press any key to boot from cd,
i press a Key and the xp cd just start and gets to: controlling the hardware of the computer ( first thing the swedish install cd does). And after seeing that line and three dotes after it for about 5 seconds, it just dissapear and the screen remains black, the cd rom is loading, but no more...
anyone of u know what the problem is?
Best regards
// Swedo

Seems like i am having the same problem on My K8N Neo4 Platinum, actually i built 3 identical rigs. And i am having the same problem as above. What i did to get around the problem was connect My Sata II hard drives to the orange slots on the mobo, and run them as raid0 and everything works, i dont know why i can run it on the purple slots without raid.

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI sound needs -5V; newest Antec 550W has no -5V rail

I came within a whisker of ordering a non-returnable 3700 Venice, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI mobo and an upgraded Power Supply, Antec's newest 550W PS the TP2-550 EPS12V ($117). This has dual 2x24pin 12V 19A rails and is touted as the new V2.0 EPS12V/ATX12v compatible power supply for high performance SLI systems. By accident I came across a page at MSI for this mobo
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mai...ail.php?UID=641
At the end is this warning: MSI Reminds You...
• For this model, you must use a Power Supply which has a -5V pin supply. Also, the users manual which I downloaded on Pg 2-10 says the same thing
The above Antec PS specs do not show a -5V rail, nor does an Enermax 600W I looked at. The V2.0 specs for ATX12v which added 2x24pin 12V rails dropped -5V rail from the spec and it appears MSI is not conforming to the spec (See Antec response at end) None of the web sites selling these PS & mobos contain any warning. I vaguely recall from a forum a while back it may have something to do with the Soundblaster system in the mobo.
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=22551 (click specifications)
Isn't this a major showstopper which is going to cause a lot of grief for those of us upgrading to SLI systems using this mobo and upgrading our PS to the newest & best power design? We won't know the PS won't work until we build the system.
Regards, Ron
Antec reply to me:
>>>>Thanks for the link. Since MSI's website does state the motherboard needs the -5v, the True550EPS12V will not work with this motherboard. The Standard (http://enhanceusa.com/documents/atx12v_v2.01.pdf) has removed the use for the -5v rail and it is no longer needed. MSI has not manufactured that motherboard to the Standard. Finding an ATX12V v2.0 power supply with the -5v might be hard to find. You should contact MSI for a compatibility list of power supplys that were tested to work with the K8N SLI Platinum.

Quote from: ccve3 on 21-May-05, 07:27:40
Wow!! syar2003 thanks for that post. I've spend an hour going through it & fasteddies links. Now I are a power expert. The dual rail argument is enough for me to go back to the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI with one of the single rail PS -5V units listed by fasteddie. The only question left now refers to computerpro3 recommendation on ultra power supplies for SLI
>>I quite simply wouldn't dream of putting anything else in my machine. Keep in mind, this section is for 2x 6800 models, not the 6600's which most any good psu will handle (like Antec Neopower, ocz 520, etc). . Pc Power and Cooling 510 Deluxe SLI edition (refer to list)
2. Zippy/Emacs 550-700w models
3. OCZ 600w (personally I would get the pcp&c for the price, but it's been proven here, so I'll be fair...).
These are really high end, expensive and only 3-4 choices. Since I'm getting one 6800GT and eventually another & possibly eventually a 4800 X2, I was hoping the OCZ 520W would do it but computerpro3 says Powermaster 520 isn't good enough for SLI. I found that there is an OCZ 600W ATX12 dual rail which surprisingly has a -5V rail needed for K8N Neo4 SLI Soundblaster. Will this meet computerpro3's preference for a high end PS for SLI systems even though I'm losing the 1 rail advantage. Maybe the 600 Watts just overwhelms the 1 rail/2 rail question.
Thanks again for the teriffic help
Regards, Ron
Wondering what you settled on. I got the Antec TP550 and it's flawless on the board. I even have the older 20pin model which works perfectly (including sound). If you really wanted what I would consider to be a top dog (pcpower and cooling), and find the -5v rail missing, all you have to do is place a phone order and request they add a -5v rail. It's a minimal cost and a total solution for having everything. Just my $0.02

No Post/Black Screen - MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

Hello,
Here is my problem, I bought MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard and got
- 3500+ cpu
- CORSAIR XMS 1GB memory
- PCI-E Leadtek 7800GT video card
- Aspire 520Watt PSU
I have put all of it together fine( I have put many systems for friends before) hooked all the power cables, case to mobo stuff, fans. Every time I turn it on fans go on, and lights go on but there is nothing on the screen as if no signal from video card to monitor, plus no error beeps which means cpu and memory is fine right. I have tried to just have memory, video card and nothing else hooked up, same result. I have tried another PSU, same result. Now to add to this, I had same problem with ABIT motherboard and another video card(same) which eliminates bad motherboard and bad video card, since both I have replaced except this time I got MSI mobo and not ABIT. I got same problem with all of it, nothing comes up, no post while fans spin when I turn it on etc... What could be the problem? memory? case? Any ideas?
Please help me as I spent a lot of $ and time on this and had no signal to monitor so far. Thanks.

As I said at this point I am trying to boot without any drives plugged in just to get a post and boot up but no go. So basically all my drives are unplugged and I cannot get it to work, I have tried different psu and same problem. I have tried another video card( I RMA this one and got another) it goes and snaps into PCI E slot all good, I have checked that many times. The only thing I can think of is memory at this point but this is brand new XM Corsiar memory and why wouldnt the motherboard beep ( i hoked speaker) if there was any error like that? I just dont get what is going on.
I have no idea what bios version I have as I have been unable to check it, unless you want me to check the chip version on chipset?

NVIDIA Network Adapter problem (MSI K8N Neo4-F)

We have an MSI K8N Neo4- F motherboard. We are running Windowx XP SP2 (just upgraded to Service Pack 2). The computer will only boot in Normal mode if we disable or remove the NVIDIA Network Adapter driver. If we attempt to boot in Normal mode, it always ends with a Bad Pool Header problem (Blue Screen of Death). If we boot in Safe Mode with Networking, we can access the Internet. If we disable or remove the driver, then boot in normal mode, we can run in Normal mode but we do not have internet connection.
Does anyone know how we can use the onboard Network Adapter, and still boot in normal mode?
We have been using the latest drivers from MSI for this motherboard. Is there a different version that can be used? Is it possible that we have to update our BIOS for it to work correctly with SP2?
Thanks!

I think I may have misunderstood what you meant by a clean install. I probably should have asked what you meant before I answered my last post.
If you mean "did we just build the system by wiping the hard drive, installing XP SP1, then apply SP2", the answer is no. The system has been running Windows XP SP1 for several years without any problems, and we just wanted to upgrade to SP2 because there is some software that we want to load that requires SP2 to run. We have lots of software loaded on this machine that we use every day that we really want to avoid (short of time right now to tackle that project) rebuilding the entire operating system/machine because of the work involved in reloading all the software, etc.
Am I correct in assuming that we would have to wipe out the hard drive and start over if we did a re-install from a slipstreamed SP2 cd? If so, then we will probably just stay with SP1 for the time being if there is no other option to fix this Nvidia driver problem until we have more time to do a complete re-install and reload of the computer.
What about just installing a NIC in one of the PCI slots and use that instead of the onboard NetWork Adapter?
Thanks for all your help.

MSI K8N NEO4-F SATA ISSUE

System Specs:
MSI K8N NEO4-F
x2 512mb Corsair Xtra Low Latency 2-2-2-5
VisionTek x850XT
Creative Audigy 2 Platinum w/ Live Drive
(1) WD Raptor 10k rpm 74gb (SATA)
(1) Maxtor 300gb (SATA)
(1) Maxtor 200gb (IDE)
(1) Samsung 52x32x52 Burner
Windows XP Pro
Recently built system but I'm having SATA performance trouble. Let's start from the boot process. Sometimes when booting, the system will hang while detecting drives, and not detect my 300GB sata drive. A simple reset will sometimes fix this. If allowed to continue to boot, a blue windows XP error screen briefly flashes and the system reboots itself. Going into the bios and trying to autodetect the drive causes a long hang and no detection.
Moving into windows if everything seems to detect alright, sometimes the 300GB drive seems to function perfectly well, and for as long as my system stays up. Other times I'll go to open some sort of media on the drive (like video), and it will run rediculously slow, skipping and barely running.
I tried replacing the SATA cables, thinking that maybe they were bent too much or perhaps just bad, but after replacing them the problem seems to persist. This problem at first seemed confined to the 300GB, but my last boot to windows was crawling and anything i opened didnt respond, as the OS is housed on the raptor. So now it seems both drives are capable of this problem.
Does anyone have any incite?

Hi mjc2264,
It's the series 10 300gb maxtors that have been giving pps some issues not just with msi but all AMD64 Nvidia chipsets, its unusual to have Maxtor9 ?? give problems.
A number of things you might try:-
1) Bios Standard Cmos Features try changing the Access Mode for your 300Gb to Large instead of Auto.
2) Detection is sometimes Worse due to the Pata channel issues. If using the Nvidia IDE Drivers ensure your
Maxtor 200gb (IDE)
Samsung 52x32x52 Burner
are Jumpered explicitly as Master/Slave the NV drivers don't like CS (cable select). Ideally have 200gb on IDE1 & Samsung on ide 2.
3) If 2) gives no change Or if you feel the need Roll back The IDE drivers & try the MS Default ones
Click update driver on the Nvidia Pata driver tab in properties.
Choose install from a specific location
Select dont choose , i will choose the driver
Then select standard dual channel pci controller which is the XP 1
4) If Windows detects problems with drive access r/w errors it downgrades the drive access mode. If you have been having issues check in device manager IDE Ata/Atapi Controllers Right click properties on each tab & check access mode it s/be Serial ATA DMA for SATA & I think Ultra DMA 5 (or 6??) for Pata HD. If you find any down graded Set them back & XP will ask to reboot.
Luck

8800 gts /msi k8n neo4 f

I was wondering if anyone had this combo, or something close to it? Will i lose any of the sata ports behind the video card/pcie slot with the legnth of this card? If i do lose the #1&2 slots, i assume my raided hard drives will still work on 3&4 without any problems. I just figured i would ask before doing. The msi k8n neo4 platinum has 8 sata ports, so it shouldnt be a problem on that board. I know the purple sata ports are sata2, but are the orange ports sata2 also?
Edit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082

Quote from: micro5797 on 09-June-07, 00:42:30
I was wondering if anyone had this combo, or something close to it? Will i lose any of the sata ports behind the video card/pcie slot with the legnth of this card? If i do lose the #1&2 slots, i assume my raided hard drives will still work on 3&4 without any problems. I just figured i would ask before doing. The msi k8n neo4 platinum has 8 sata ports, so it shouldnt be a problem on that board. I know the purple sata ports are sata2, but are the orange ports sata2 also?
Edit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082
I have exactly this combo and it all fits fine. I can confirm that you can use all of the sata ports without problem because I have done just that.
Chip

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