Anyone running Leopard on an 867 Mhz computer?

I've got a Titanium G4 867 Mhz and I'm wondering if Leopard will run
decently on my machine or not. I know that it meets the minimum system requirements but if it runs poorly it's not worth it.
Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences.
-B

Hey There,
I just installed Leopard on both of my G4 powerbooks last night. One is a titanium 667mhz DVI and the other a 667mhz titanium Vga model... I tricked out the installer into believing i had a 1ghz cpu by using openfirmware before i inserted the install dvd which I purchased at my local Apple store. If you want me to tell you how let me know. I had a few problems do to the consitency of my previous Tiger drive. I had to reinstall it a couple of times which honestly was a pain in the behind. When I totally erased the hard drives and installed fresh new Leopard It was a success. The very first boot was reall slow as expected. When leopard opened up for the very first time after all the welcome stuff and registration, It was a lot slower then tiger to my surprise which didnt make me to happy after all of those long hours of install after install. So I decide to go to the upgrades menu and check for upgrades. Once I installed the leopard 10.5.1 upgrade it was Way faster then my tiger ever was. I really don't see why Leopard needs at least an 887mhz because it runs Superbly on my 667mhz. And I've messed with everything already with massive multitasking to really see stabillity and It is better then tiger at least for me. The trick is A CLEAN install with No previous data from tiger. and then after install just manually transfer documenst and applications if you like But def not the user data especially if your tiger was modified in anyway shape or form by you.

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G4 QS '01
G4 QS '02
G4 MDD '02
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Apple KBase Article #25114 - Mac OS 8, 9: Compatibility With Macs can be very useful, too, in determining what OS Install CDs may be used on various Mac models.

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Cheers! DALE

Hi Simon,
The only Mac we've shed was a "pre-owned" Performa 6200/75, the Mac that got four Road Apples from LowEndMac. Had I known it was going to be a giraffe (a horse built by a committee) I'd never had bought it (explains the cheap price). Our 6100/60 was MUCH faster than the 6200. Still, the 6200 let us limp through a difficult period until I got the first beige G3 in 1999 (still have and use).
I parted out the 6200; it was such a poor ambassador that I didn't want some other poor sod ending up with a bad MacTaste in his mouth!

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Interval Since Last Panic Report: 69562 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 4
Anonymous UUID: D8AE96F6-302F-4C7B-84A6-C2CFC06E38EF
Sun Jan 31 21:58:52 2010
Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x000000000000000C PC=0x00000000002AF41C
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Exception state (sv=0x34d55500)
PC=0x002AF41C; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x0000000C; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x00D1676C; R1=0x2FBB7C00; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
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0x000B1DD4
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dependency: com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family(216.1)@0xc99000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x55f000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.1)@0xbed000
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PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)
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HI Michael,
Go here for help to Resolve Kernel Panics
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The Airport card may need replacing.
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Indybears wrote:
I have a Mac Power PC 867 MHZ, 2M L3 Cache, 640 MB of SDRAM. I am currently running OS X 10.3.9. and would like to upgrade to OS X Leopard. Has anyone done this on their computer and did you run into any issues. I would like to upgrade my software next year and need to have the current OS X to do so. I do a lot of graphics work and run Quark, Adobe CS2, Word and Acrobate.
Any advice??????
Welcome to Apple Discussions:
Leopard would install, but your RAM is very low. It should be maximized, esp. since your processor speed is so low and you use graphic-intensive apps. Even then it might run very sluggishly.
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Hi Bussada,
No, you dont have to uninstall Creative cloud from the other machine. You can use your Adobe ID to download and install the software on the other machine. Please ensure that you don't use both machine at the same time.
Download creative cloud desktop app from this link.
https://creative.adobe.com/products/creative-cloud
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*Hardware Overview:*
Machine Name: Power Mac G4
Machine Model: PowerMac3,5
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.0)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 733 MHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB
Memory: 1 GB
Bus Speed: 133 MHz
*Boot ROM Version: 4.3.3f2*
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1 GB PC133-333 RAM (1 x 512mb, 2 x 256mb)
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 mb (PC flashed into Mac - no problems anywhere)
ACARD 6280M PCI card (2 drives on it - but the 867mhz cpu didn't like a drive directly attached to the board either)
Power On Self-Test:
Last Run: 28/09/08 08:06
Result: Passed
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Increasing speed and power on G4 to run Leopard

Hello Everyone,
I have an old 533MHz Power PC G4 with 384 MB SDRAMM. I bought this computer back in 2000. I am trying to increase it's processing power to accommodate Leopard. My purposes are to use it as a node machine running alongside my 4x2.5 GHz PPC G5 with 16 GB DDR2 SDRAMM, while running Logic and I can't do that unless they are both running the same operating systems. My questions are as follows:
1) Can I pull the memory in my G4 and replace it with the memory that I pulled out of my G5 some
months back? (Wishful Thinking)!?
2) If question one is not an option, could someone please direct me to the absolute best solution for increasing my G4's processing power so that I may use it as an effective node machine?
As always, thanks to the forum in advance.
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Here's the spec sheet on your G4 http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermacg4/stats/powermac_g4533.html
#1 - No. The G4 uses PC133 RAM.
#2 - Here's the *Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard installation system requirements*
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24950
You could add a faster processor (not cheap), since a processor speed of at least 867 MHz is required. Also you would need to add RAM, as 512MB is the minimum, but 1GB is really needed.
You would be better off getting a used G4 MDD with at least a 1GHz processor.
 Cheers, Tom

My iPhone 4 does not allow me to sync wirelessly when plugged into itunes? How do I fix this? I am running leopard on a macbook pro. Could that be the issue?

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Oh. Gosh. What's Windows got to do with anything? You're on Leopard, on a Mac.
It seems from other discussions my current OS on my laptop is the reason why it won't sync

In Praise of the Quicksilver 2001 - 867 MHz

Yes, I have newer machines but this one has been working very, very well for over six years and I decided that I was not going to let it go and not give it the Leopard treatment. I find it amazing how well it is working with all the current system updates, a process that would cripple any older PC. I was a little concerned to find that now this machine is at the bottom of the Leopard food chain, but I did a backup on an external if I had to find my way back to Tiger.
Over the course of time I made some changes. I swapped out the 32 MB ATI Graphics card for a 128 MB model three years ago (Core Image as software though); I swapped out the 60 GB hard drive with a 120 MB model (largest this machine can take); and I added a PCI (SATA) card that allowed me to install a 250 MB internal as well. I also added an Airport (not extreme) Card to connect to the local network. The machine was built with 1.12 GB of RAM.
The installation seemed to go well, about an hour or so overall (I believe this machine has a 4x DVD read). Of course I had the issue with the Login based on 10.1 or earlier and found this right after my login after the installation. I had to do a new keychain, but (although a little inconvenient) it was fairly easy to do.
The first thing I noticed is that the icons for the PCI card connected drives had changed. Before they looked like the main hard drive, now they are orange and are similar to the FireWire attached drives. Everything seems faster than Tiger, and that is quite impressive on an over six year old machine. Safari is snappier than ever. Mail is fast as well. I don't miss the Spotlight delay while typing at all. Quick Look and the additions to viewing files in the Finder work fine and are very useful.
My menu bar is not transparent (not enough GPU power?), so for some detractors this may be a good thing, but it doesn't detract from the use at all. I'm a left-side dock person and I liked the original design that looked like when it was on the bottom, but the current configuration is OK and the lights for active programs are very easy to see. It seems to be using up more RAM than previously, but I'll have to keep watching that and see if it's overall or just certain things.
Overall my rating of this effort is a big success, and I'm sure I'd find it harder and harder to live without Leopard each day if I did not upgrade this machine. I'm not expecting this machine to act like a top of the line model, but with it's new spots, this mature machine has a lot of life left in it!
Some things I've tried so far (not in great detail, just briefly):
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Filemaker 8.5 seems to work.
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I really like Spaces, CoverFlow and QuickLook.
I really don't like the Preview Crash, Disk Utility Speed and Indication, Hunger for RAM, and the "Little Stall".
The Preview crash still happens when adjusting and trying to save, but this is happening among a large number of different machines so it may be with the GPU and Leopard coding.
Disk Utility still takes longer than Tiger in repairing permissions and the graphical indicator of the task is still not fully corrected yet.
RAM seems to be more of an issue than it ever was with Tiger. I've got 1.125 GB well within the requirement, but at times it seems to get taken up more frequently than under Tiger. While running Tiger I never had to check what was using what RAM with Activity Monitor. It seems that more stays active with Leopard as with Tiger the active was always somewhere between 25% to 40% of RAM, and the inactive was at least that much or more, but active would slim down and inactive (less yellow than blue - on Activity Monitor standard colors) would increase, but never any slowdowns with this scheme. With the same amount of applications running in Leopard, the yellow (active) will work it's way up to half with very little blue (inactive). Over time if you leave the machine on and sleep more RAM will kept getting taken up. From my observations it seems to be Safari, which starts out at about 50-80 MB for five tabs, but overtime and surfing it will balloon up to over 300 MB and it makes more sense to quit and restart Safari to get back more RAM. I thought it might be related to Spaces, but I turned it off and the RAM usage was the same. I always expected Leopard to use more of the RAM, but I think there must be some optimizations that can be done to make better use of what is available and to curtail Safari's thirst for memory. Make no mistake, Safari is a great browser; and is my number one choice.
The "Little Stall" (using a Seinfeld-esque slant at naming) is also a result of Leopard I'd like to see the last of. While running the new screen savers "Shell" or "Arabesque" or using any of the iTunes Visualizer (including the original), the effect will run for about three seconds then they're be a "little stall" of about half of a second and it will continue for three seconds and on. It almost seems like there is some disk usage or caching involved and seems odd as I have 128 MB of Video RAM (ATI Radeon 9000 Pro). Could it be that even with 128 MB that Core Image is being done as software and not hardware is causing the the "Little Stall"? I find that hard to believe that this is how the effects are supposed to work on a machine with a non-programable GPU, since there are a number of machines that are well within Leopards requirements that have non-programable GPU's. How many iBooks and other machines are out there with 32 MB GPU's of the same type? I'm hoping that future updates will bring us updated ATI drivers that allow Leopard to take advantage of the same things Tiger could without issue.
All that said, I have Tiger on a backup drive with a complete backup of the drive when I did the upgrade, and I booted up in it the other day to update my Mail if I decide to take this machine back to Tiger and concede on Leopard. As I was working in Tiger, it was as good as I remembered, but in the end I was really missing some of the Leopard features. So I'm keeping Leopard (updating Tiger mail as a fail safe) and hoping future updates will take the Leopard experience on the Quicksilver 2001 - 867 MHz to where it needs to be.
So in the end, I'm a bit torn between what I had, what I have, and keeping hope for what I will get in the end. I'm a few tweaks away from true happiness, but the wait is excruciating.... I know I'm not alone, so let's hope the tweaks and fixes come fast and furious.

Performance Problems: Power Mac 867 MHZ G4

I have a Power Mac 867 MHZ G4 with 1.12GB RAM. Going from Panther to Leopard REALLY HURTS performance. Programs launch slower and even MS Word typing characters echoes slower. Is this something that more memory would cure? THX.

Thanks Joe. That seems to have been the bottleneck. Now that Spotlight has finished indexing, the system actually runs ALMOST as fast as it did under Panther.

Anyone running Leopard on an 867 Mhz computer?

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