Anyone try Smart Objects with Aperture; is this useful?

Here’s what I did, wondering if this is helpful. I exported a master (which produces the RAW file) to disk.
Open the image in Photoshop using the Aperture “Open with External Editor” command. Now use the Place Command and you can create a smart object with the RAW file. It initially opens Adobe Camera RAW so you can adjust as you wish. When done, you can save this SO in the version.
Go back into that file from Aperture, and if you wish to edit again with Photoshop, you have the option of double clicking on the SO to call up ACR, tweak and save.
So layers are not supported but Smart Objects are multiple versions of a PSD embedded in the original (if my understanding is correct).
Am I crazy or does this allow us to do RAW conversions with ACR but use the rest of Aperture?

That's a neat variation. Here's mine:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=1292903
Summary:
1) Export original to a hot folder which opens the file in ACR, convert.
2) Apple-Tab back to Aperture, 'open in external editor'.
3) Run an action that copies the image from the ACR conversion into the Aperture version and save. Action is included in the linked thread.
Combining the two approaches could work rather nicely.
Note - once an image has been opened using 'open in external editor' layers ARE supported. From this point on, 'open in external editor' passes the file directly to PS, without flattening. Just watch out for overwrites.
Ian

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To the best of my knowledge , Aperture saves the PSD file created when you open an Image with PS as an external editor with layers — and, because PS Smart Object are contained in layers — and Smart Objects intact as a new Original. (Here in the Apple Aperture support forum we have followed Ernie's helpful distinction and call these "Quasi-Originals".) Don't rely on my word, though — this is easy to test for yourself.
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I am running LR4.1/CS5/ACR6.7 on a Win7 64bits system.
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Thanks Rikk,
That did work with a DNG file :-)
I am working with very huge .TIF files (400MB), so i am wondering if size could be the main issue (although my PC has lots of HW resources).
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I can't post the image publicly because of NDA, but I will pm you a link to the file. I don't always have this issue in cs5. I even tried opening up the same file in a new document and then made a mask and it transformed just fine. But it also is not limited to just this file, I have had this happen with other images as well.
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Thank you for your answer.
I was resizing it before from bigger image size to a smaller one (121 cm to 8 cm) which fit my template size. But the dpi remains in 72 which makes the picture pixelized.
I am wondering if I can find a script that will keep the size of the first image that I put on the template for other images that I place, regardless the size they are imported to. Basically, how to make them all fit into the template regardless the size.
Thank you for the info about the scripting forum. I will write there too.
Sorry, I'm so new to this

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