Anyone using Lion and Snow Leopard? I will be soon.

I will soon be using both Lion and Snow Leopard on my newly upgraded hybrid hard drive.I know that I should need to partition the drive into three 1 for Lion 1 for SL and 1 for data/applications.
The problem is how is how much space should I give each partition?
Has anyone done this before or have any good ideas how to go about it?
Some extra info:
I am currently using a MacBook Pro (mid 2009 13")
I am currently using Lion OS X v10.7.4
The new drive is 750GB Seagate Momentus XT 7200rpm 8GB(solid-state) hybrid drive
The soon to be replaced drive is a stock 250GB 5400rpm HDD
Thanks all help appreciated

It's important that you leave a minimum amount of free space for the OS to use. You will see anywhere from 16 to 30 GBs for your OS and iLife apps. You need enough space to allow for all your third-party applications and document files. When fully set up you may have only 30 GBs of free space which is an appropriate amount to have, but not less than 20 GBs. That makes 60 GBs a reasonable minimum size.
If you haven't put everything in concrete, I might suggest going with a 500 GB Seagate XT hybrid together with a 128 or 256 GB SSD using an OWC DataDoubler replacing the optical drive. I suggest that mainly because using the same hard drive for the OS and Data partitions will actually make file I/O slower. Having two drives and using an SSD for the startup volume will enhance file I/O operations. Only two partitions on the SSD - each 60 GBs - fit neatly in 128 GBs.

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The app is called "GIFfun" and is free. It can be downloaded here: http://www.stone.com/GIFfun/
I have used this app for years on a Leopard machine, but needed to upgrade this week to Lion.
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I've purchased other Gif creation software to see if the problem was only with that app, but the grey areas are on all Gifs from all Gif creators, which makes me sure the problem lies with Lion.
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Yes I see your problem.
Nothing you or I can do about third party software not preforming well in Lion.
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This does not apply to new Mac Minis or MacBook Airs. When newer models are introduced that also require Lion for hardware support, the techniques described below will no longer work with the possible exception of using Parallels 7.
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Get a clone of a 10.6.8 Snow Leopard system. Put the cloned Snow Leopard system onto the new partition.
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3.    In the lower right corner of the sizing rectangle for each partition is a resizing gadget. Select it with the mouse and move the bottom of the rectangle upwards until you have reduced the existing partition enough to create the desired new volume's size. The space below the resized partition will appear gray. Click on the Apply button and wait until the process has completed. (Note: You can only make a partition smaller in order to create new free space.)
4.   Click on the [+] button below the sizing window to add a new partition in the gray space you freed up. Give the new volume a name, if you wish, then click on the Apply button. Wait until the process has completed.
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It would be wise to have a backup of your current system as resizing is not necessarily free of risk for data loss. Your drive must have sufficient contiguous free space for this process to work.
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Option One:
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Option Two:
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Danno. wrote:
Hi all,
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However, I'm wondering if any of you are in the same shoes as me and, if so, how you handle content management across iCloud compatible and incompatible devices.
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I'm a huge fan of the cloud and, while I can use dropbox on all my devices, I kinda like the inbuilt functionality of iCloud more. (Plus I have more space there). Just wondering what workflows people are using to try and sync and work with content across compatible and incompatible devices.
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