Anyone want a Mega 865?

I've got a Mega 865 that has (again) died.  Can't remember the actual CPU in the machine and have been too fed up with it to remove it to see.  I know it's some sort of P4 - I think around 1.6ghz.  MSI has consistently failed to support this product in my case, and I've been unable to get support from MSI yet again.  The original unit was DOA 2 years ago.  This unit was somewhat flaky all this time (repeatedly had to unplug and replug unit for front panel to work.  It has 512mb Corsair DDR memory in it.
Anyone interested in buying it for pennies on the dollar with or without CPU and RAM?  I'm not going to waste any more time on it.  I want to keep the drives.  The unit doesn't have a single, solitary scratch or blemish.  I do have the original remote (though I never used it).

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