Anything similar to Gradient Map in InDesign?

Hi, we're using InDesign CS3, and wondering if there is anything in the new version (or any plugins/techniques) that would more closely match the effect possible when using a gradent map on an image in Photoshop?
We have a project that uses many historic photos that are black & white. We need to colorize these with a good deal of control (so we can get predictable results, and change easily). We would usually colorize in InDesign by choosing a foreground and background color. Simple enough.
But I know in Photoshop you achieve this by using a gradient map, and have the option of including more than just 2 colors. The advantage to this is that you can include a black (or very dark version of your 'foreground' color) for the darkest shadows, and/or a white (or light 'background' color) for the lightest highlights, in addition to your 2 typical 'background' and 'foreground' colors. The result, is that these images have the same exact coloration across most of the image, but look much richer and more dynamic with the extra darkness/lightness on the extreme ends.
So, of course, we could adjust all images in Photoshop as outlined above, but there will be a LOT of images, and there will always be changes to the colors along the way. If we do all in Photoshop, that would mean any change to a color, even if slight, would mean opening/editing/saving all corresponding Photoshop images. Very time-consuming! In InDesign, it's as simple as changing the swatch color for all affected images.
- Anything new in CS4?
- Any other way to go about this?
THANKS!

Nothing really analagous to gradient map. You can use blending modes like Multiply or Screen, but that's not new.

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While I was able to keep the original settings from changing in the Gradient Map, there was still a problem in CS4 where the Lab values would change (and the appearance on the LCD screen) after doing any color picker editing and changing the CMYK values back to 40 20 20 100. This definetly seems related to the color model/probile/management system in place. So it appears that even though I can get the CMYK numbers to stay and not change, there is still a bug when making no changes to the color management settings, and the CMYK values are the same, that the Lab values and the appearance on the screen change.
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