Ap Div Tag Problem

OK so this is my first wbesite in dreamweaver so and i ran into a problem....i made a AP div tag but i can get it where i want it.....my backrground is center in the website and i put my nav links in a AP div tag so i could then put them in a certain area where i wanted.(i think is the only way i know hjow to do this)  Well how can i get them centered left and right in the website but the top and bottom i want to place by hand???? they are where they need to be when i preview it in the browser but in the dreamweaver file they are down and to the right......i had to keep messing with it and previewin it until it showed up where i wanted it to in the browser. Im sure i have a setting worng either in my CSS or html.... Please help!

First rule of web design is to stop thinking like a graphic or print designer.  Web pages need to be flexible to perform well on different devices, browsers, user settings, screen and text sizes.  And web designers have almost no control over these user-centric variables.
The second rule of web design, you cannot precisely position text or other elements on top of big background image and expect it to stick.  It just doesn't work.
http://alt-web.com/Backgrounds.shtml
If your navigation bar requires a background, it should be separate from the page background. You'll need to use solid colors or create image slices for your nav bar in your graphics editor.
Third rule, use default CSS positioning (which is no positioning at all).  Align objects with CSS margins, padding and floats.
Basic CSS Layout.  (No APDivs used, no animals were harmed)
http://alt-web.com/TEMPLATES/Basic-1-col-fixed.html
Also read this tutorial:
Taking  a Fireworks (or Photoshop) comp to a CSS based layout in DW
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/fireworks/articles/web_standards_layouts_pt1.html
Good luck with your project!
Nancy O.
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    >>> > favorite solutions can be untenable.
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    >>> Sometimes it is important to know "some"
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    >>> Nothing against the OP here, and nothing to get
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    >>> This is just a general statement about the other
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    >>>
    >>> > Note to self: Recite Serenity Prayer before
    posting here in the
    >>> > future.
    >>>
    >>> Let's hope that works :)
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Thierry
    >>> Articles and Tutorials:
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    >>> The perfect FAQ page:
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    >>> CSS-P Templates:
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