Aperture 3.0.2 and Printing Presets
I have updated to 3.0.2 and have 10.6.3. I trashed my Aperture plist and re-created a printing preset. However, the presets do NOT save. The printer always reverts to my default black/white laser printer, even though I selected an Epson R2880 and the paper size always goes back to "Letter". I have the most recent print drivers from Apple for the R2880.
I have also tried on my MacBook Pro (10.6.3 Aperture 3.0.2) with only one printer installed.
Anyone else see this issue?
Same issue with Aperture 3.0.2 and HP Photosmart Premium C309g.
I've only one printer installed but the paper size reverts always to the default setting (A4).
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What a wonderful week I have spent immersed in the glorious world of printer/colour calibration :-)
I recently purchsed some new printers for the artroom department under the guidelines that we wouldnt need a calibrated printer(alas it seems we do and someone didnt realise). I did not know anything about colour, Adobe prducts and just how much there was to all of this before last week. My background is in servers and networking. So I unleased a rather large can of worms it seems
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"1.) I set up my mahcine with a sRGB work space using FOGRA37 (or something like that) for CMYK. I ensured that I assign this profile to the sponge pudding. I then check my printer presets. My printer is PCL6 so there are limited options but I set the output to sRGB (and even try printing to bitmap). I print out the image and it looks again pretty close to what is on my screen. However, if I drop the color setting back to Adobe illustrator version 6 (it goes sea green on my monitor!!! and it prints out sea green!!. SO I am even more confused at that point."
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We were shooting with 3 cameras, Lumix5 shooting RAW, Cannon 100 shooting JPEG and SONY alfa850 shooting RAW.
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If you no have done so already, repair (and if necessary rebuild) the Aperture library.
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I sincerely hope Apple sort out, what for me is inexcusable in a professional commercial app. A few photographers I know are going to use the next release of Aperture as a turning point, if it can't print as good as the Beta Lightroom then they will become Lightroom users and say good bye to Aperture.
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The colors are pretty close to matching but each photo I print comes out deeper in color ( shadows and highlights are off )
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If I did find a profile how would I install it so it would show up in the drop down list of paper types ?Well I'm pretty amazed that the prints are just slightly off, with all the things you're doing wrong in color management.
First off, you don't seem to know the difference between a device profile and a working space (i.e. 'synthetic' profiles), since you assigned AdobeRGB to both your monitor and printer. You should profile your printer and display with special hardware, like the X-Rite Colormunki. This will generate a profile, that will translate how color should look theoretically (by the assigned working space e.g. AdobeRGB), to how they will look on the hardware.
Secondly, RAW-images do not have a color profile! The setting in the camera only applies to in-camera JPEGs. RAW files only contain the voltages the CCD measured, this has to be translated into in image later.
Thirdly, softproofing in AdobeRGB almost never makes any sense. It doesn't make any sense if your are softproofing in AdobeRGB if you want to match screen to print. Your softproofing profile should be the profile that is specific for your printer and paper combination. The only synthetic profile that makes sense to softproof to is sRGB, since that is the colorspace used on the web. And even that is disputable since 99.9% of web user do not have a calibrated/profiled monitor.
Fourthly, Adding a color profile will not add a paper type to the drop down list in the printer driver. These are hard-coded in the printer driver and basically determine the amount of ink being placed on the paper.
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Acrobat on OSX does not use printer preset. Every single time I have to print I have to click printer and then print to load the preset and then click print again from the main dialog. I am printing to a Xerox that has the copier code in the preset so if I don't do this it will not print. This has been broken for in every version I have tried. This extra clicks are taking years off my life. Did I remember to do the extra clicks? I don't know, I guess I will run down the hall and check. Please fix this.
What operating system are you running? I assume they had you install the latest BIOS. True? If it were mine, I would suggest forcing it to use integrated graphics (in the BIOS) to rule out a problem with the NVidia driver.
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Apple Photobooks and Prints Color Space? - Aperture
Does apple use Adobe RGB or sRGB to print the photobooks and prints via Aperture? Also what is the perfered ppi setting?
I am looking for a professional Adobe RGB printer with a printer specific ppi setting that I can order from via Aperture. If anybody knows these setting for Apple or another printer please let me know!!!
Thank you!Can I suggest you buy Philip Andrews book, Advanced Photoshop Elements 10. he explains colour spaces and much much more very clearly and exactly what can be done with 16 bit files and what you then have to change to 8 bit to accomplish. He's written basic and advanced guides for Elements since day one. Usually available from Amazon for under £20.
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when printing from aperture my margins are unequal, even if i set my margins they come out bigger one side and not the other. i am using a macbook pro running osx lion and printing with a canon pro 9000.
please can anbody help or advise?You didn't mention any color calibration being done on your monitor. This is an essential part of any color-correct workflow. What are you using to calibrate your monitor (and your printer)?
Print profiles (for soft-proofing as well as printing) are for specific combinations of paper & printer. The nine you have are each, most likely, for a common paper (perhaps mfr'd by Canon) to be used with your printer.
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Is anyone else seeing this? Anything I can try to resolve this? I'm on 10.6.2 with an Epson 3800 if that matters.
Thanks.OK, if the permissions thing doesn't work I do have another fix....if you don't mind 'going under the hood'.
Your plist thing gave me an idea, so what I did, having confirmed that my file, like yours, did not contain any of my saved presets, was make my own in plist. If you decide to try this please make a good copy of your plist file and keep it somewhere safe before you start, and please understand you do this at your own risk. Having scared you sufficiently it is actually quite easy. Open the PrintPresets.plist file, choose one of the existing presets (they are labelled as items) that is closest to the one you wish to create and copy it. Then click plist to navigate back one level and then paste in your new preset. Rename it (user name) and save, then reopen AP3 to confirm your new preset does in fact show up. Assuming it does then you can go back into PrintPreset.plist and tweak the settings to suit. The one thing that tripped me up briefly was the fact that measurements in the plist file are imperial yet in my copy of AP3 I am using metric, simple enough to convert though.
Again, this is at your own risk, but it worked a treat for me and now I can strart to print with my own presets in AP3. Wish I'd thought of it earlier.
Good luck if you decide to have a go
Take care
FlatE
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