Aperture 3.02 vs iPhoto 8.12 Speed Difference

Running on a 1 week old 17" i5 MacBook Pro. Aperture is slower than a dog. iPhoto does the same things 4-5 times faster. Library has less then 5,000 photos in it. Am I doing something wrong?

Probably doing something like automatically generating Previews. Try setting Preview generation to manual. Also search the forum for "Aperture Speed" and check out rwboyer's website.
How is AP set up (what drives, connectivity, etc.)? Any overfilled drives or USB in the mix will slow things down.
HTH
-Allen

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Hi, I've just downloaded Aperture 3.2 and transfered all my iPhoto Library but now when I use the Aperture program it runs at the slowest speed possible and is almost impossible to work with. It is constantly processing why is this?

Hi, I've just downloaded Aperture 3.2 and transfered all my iPhoto Library but now when I use the Aperture program it runs at the slowest speed possible and is almost impossible to work with. It is constantly processing why is this?

You can click on the text that says 'processing' in the main windows and it will open (toggle) the Activity Window, (can also be accessed via the Window menu -> Show Activity.
It will tell you what Aperture is doing with more precision and perhaps even how many photos it still needs to process. It is generally best to wait until all that processing is done before you start working with the photos (well it is best to first turn of options what you dont want to use, perhaps Faces or Previews and then let it process the new photos).

Viewing Aperture library items in iPhoto as workflow help

I wanted to view my Aperture library jpegs in iPhoto without opening Aperture. The reason for this is to use iPhoto to review my pictures and to open in an external editor from iPhoto. We use Fireworks in designing web sites and newsletters. I did not want to save to another folder which takes up space. The workflow requires the use of Fireworks, crop out what we need from or graphics/pictures and place in the final work for Dreamweaver.
I opened the Aperture library content and dragged the image folders to iPhoto. It did take the pictures and gave a notice for the files that were not imported. These were jpeg files, not the raw. Advantage is that the Aperture library is now the one resource for our workflow. I can switch from FireWorks to Photoshop when needed. We did not try this with the Raw files, but I suppose that could be done too. Opening the raw in PS would be helpful to some workflows.
I thought this was a good tip. It has saved us quite a bit of time and is easy to use.

I'm not sure I understand. If you're using iPhoto to review and edit jpg files you've pretty much nuked any reason to use Aperture at all. It also means that edited copies of your images are not tracked as versions and aren't backed up in the vault. Can you explain a little more what your workflow is?
I'm do not want versions tracked in Aperture in this case. I want samples of textures or parts of image available for use in designing other graphics. We are in the graphics studio and want to open files in FireWorks, crop/marque out parts and paste to another FireWorks file. I have iPhoto set up to open externally in Fireworks. Think of it as needing 'clip art' out of picture in the library.
What we are doing is designing banners for web sites and newsletters. I might want a horizon/sunset only as a background to blend into the banner. I have iPhoto open already along with Fireworks and Dreamweaver. No need to have Aperture or any other program open now. iPhoto has the jpegs..... click to open in FireWorks, marque, copy and past the parts I want into the banner design.
Before that I had to have a resource folder of jpegs. The Aperture library can now store jpegs and access them from iPhoto. I have to hunt quickly through hundreds of image we have store for each texture and different subjects for these banner creations.
Hope this helps. We just need small parts of any given image. This was a good solution. I'm sure there are others too.

Albums in Aperture vs Albums in iPhoto

Hi,
I am a bit confusing about the usage of Albums in iPhoto and Aperture 3.
My understanding,
iPhoto: adding a picture to albums is just to create links, there is always one physical copy of image, modifying the picture from an album will update all albums that have that picture. The concept of Album in iPhoto is more like a tag or a label?
Aperture: adding a picture to albums is to copy physical image files, you may have duplicated images if a picture is added to several Albums. Change of a picture in an album will not update the same picture in other albums.
Is my understanding correct?
Since my iPhoto and Aperture use same the iPhoto library, how do they actually work together when browsing albums? iPhoto creates links but Aperture copies files.

versions do not mean duplications of images, versions mean changes-to-be-applied?
That is correct. Versions are image files in limbo - just a set of adjustments describing the changes that need to be applied to the original to render the image as an image file. You create new versions by using the command "Photos > Duplicate version" or "Photos > New version from original". Or by setting the preference to create new versions when making adjustments.
This paragraph in the manual is very misleading:
When you drag an image into a different album, Aperture creates a duplicate version of the image and places it in the album. An image can be copied into any album in the same project or into albums in different projects. The destination album can be an album, book album, Light Table album, slideshow, or web journal or webpage album.
Dragging between albums does not create new versions - it adds a link to the same version to the destination album. You can test that, by dragging an image to an album and flagging it in the album. You will see that all occurences of this version in all albums will be flagged. SO there is still only one version after dragging, but used in different albums.

Changes in Aperture not seen on Iphoto ?

Ok, I know if I make a change to an image on iphoto it wont be seen in aperture (Iphoto creates new images)
But I tought the reverse worked ? changes in Aperture are seen in iphoto ? .. but mine are not, am I forgetting to do something ?
example
I imported my iphoto library (keeping the images on their current location)
I open an image in Aperture, edit for exaple red eye, when I open the image on iphoto, the red eye is still there
any ideas ?

If you are talking about photos that have been exported from Aperture and then imported into iPhoto, then you are right. No change made in Aperture would result in a change to the version in iPhoto.
However, if you are talking about the images you can access in iPhoto throught the "Show Aperture Library" menu item, then changes made in Aperture should show up in iPhoto. You would still need to drag the updated version into iPhoto in place of the old one, but it will be there.
If they don't it is likely because you made changes to a version that was not the stack pick.
iPhoto, and iWeb for that matter, only "see" the stack pick. Any other versions in a stack are invisible to iPhoto and iWeb.

Aperture Library Menu after iPhoto import

When I purchased Aperture I imported by iPhoto library into it. This created a bewildering number of entries in the library listing seen on the left of the screen.
my Library listings on the left in windowed view. It is just clogged with entries created when I imported my iPhoto library... there are numbers, projects, dates, rolls and albums all one after anothe. You seem to only be able to choose "all items" "favorite items" or "recent items" and some additional arrangments. Is there a way to pare this down without damage? Here is a small section of what I see...

William,
what does your original iPhoto Library look like?
Your screenshot shows a list of projects. When you imported the iPhoto library, Aperture should have created one project for each of the events in the iPhoto Library. Does your iPhoto library have similar events?
If you see too many projects you can do two things to get them better organized:
Create folders (File > New > Folder) and drag related projects to the same folder. Then you can collapse the folders and hide the projects inside.
Merge related projects. If you select the "Projects" view (in the top section of the library inspector), you can merge projects by dragging a project on top of another project.
Do not delete projects, unless you want to delete the images in th projects. Projects are the containers of the images. Each image (and all its edited versions) resides in exactly one project, and deleting the project will delete the image and all its versions.
Regards
Léonie

How can I get my aperture library exported to iphoto?

Can anyone specifically tell me how to move pictures from aperture to iphoto? Thanks!

You can't import an entire actual Aperture library file into iPhoto.
But you can always create an album with all the images you want to export, select File>Export Versions and then export them to a folder where you can then import them from within iPhoto. You'll be making duplicates (just so you'll know that it will take up some additional disk space.)
If you have some sort of structure you want, you could do this with multiple albums so that iPhoto imports them as individual rolls.

Aperture changes syncing with iPhoto

Is there any way to make changes to a photo in Aperture and have the changes reflected in my iPhoto library? And Will I be able to revert back to the original if need be?
Or would it just be easier to import my whole iPhoto library into Aperture and forget about iPhoto altogether?
Thanks,
Dennis

Dennis
Welcome to the Apple Discussions.
s there any way to make changes to a photo in Aperture and have the changes reflected in my iPhoto library?
No. There is no two-way integration between iPhoto and Aperture. The integration is designed to assist those migrating from iPhoto up to the more capable application. Iphoto has no ability to read the Aperture library.
What you can do is access the previews from Aperture by dragging them from the Media Browser (iPhoto: File -> Show Aperture Library).
Or would it just be easier to import my whole iPhoto library into Aperture and forget about iPhoto altogether?
Yes.
Regards
TD

Having installed aperture 3 and imported iphoto library (15000 photos) Apertue 3 does not render most of my photos corectly most a blurred pixellated and distorted. Reverting to photo produces perfect results. Any suggestions

Having installed aperture 3 and imported iphoto library (15000 photos) Apertue 3 does not render most of my photos corectly most a blurred pixellated and distorted. Reverting to photo produces perfect results. Any suggestions

Galdaplh,
What do you mean by "reverting to photo"? "Revert" is not a function in Aperture so you must be talking about something else.
If you just performed the import of that many photos, Aperture will take some time to generate thumbnails. You can see if it is doing this sort of thing by {Command}-{Shift}-0 to show the Activity window.
Once Aperture generates all its thumbnails, you will have nearly instantaneous access to much, much better thumbnails than Aperture uses immediately after importing photos.
nathan

Aperture Crashes While importing iPhoto 11

Hi all,
I hope someone can help as I'm getting desperate. I have spent hours on the phone with Apple tech support to no avail.
I have an iPhoto library of 45K photos that I am attempting to import to Aperture 3. However, Aperture repeatedly crashes before completing the import. This happens at different times in the import (sometimes after importing 100 or so events, other times >300 events, but it never makes it to the end.
So far, I have tried the following (each time into a new Aperture Library):
1. Duplicated and rebuilt the iPhoto library with command-option (crashed).
2. Shift opened Aperture to disable background processing (still crashed).
3. I tried importing a few events at a time, but with 45K photos that required the patience of job which unfortunately I do not have.
I am running on Aperture 3.1.1, iPhoto 11 (ver 9.1.1), OSX 10.6.5, on a 2.66 Quad Core Xeon MacPro with 8 GB ram and 6 TB hard drive space.

I figured out a "work-around" and I was able to import my iPhoto Library into Aperture. But in order to do it, I had to break up the iPhoto Library and import year-by-year, with each year going into a different Aperture Library. Most of the years imported without an issue, but there was 1 set that crashed a couple of times, so I assume that that's where the problem was.
At any rate, now my iPhoto Library is entirely converted to Aperture, but in 6 different Aperture Libraries with all the photos residing within the Aperture Libraries themselves. Is there a way now to consolidate them into 1 Aperture Library? Or do I have to create a 7th Aperture Library and import them in 1 by 1?
George

Now that I have installed aperture, can I delete iPhoto?

Now that I have installed Aperture, can I delete iPhoto?

You could by why would you?
You paid for it, the application doesn;t really take up much space and there may come a time when you want it or need it.
In fact Léonie has wrriten a user tip addressing this see Keep iPhoto - It May Come in Handy!

Computer uploads photos to Aperture and not to iPhoto

I recently bought Aperture. Now when I add photos they show in Aperture but not in iPhoto. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for comments above. I checked again looking at the "Photos" view of the library as opposed to the "Events" (iPhoto) or "Projects" (Aperture) view. What I found is that in the Photos view I can see the same in both iPhoto and Aperture. They are using the same library| But whereas in Aperture recent projects are added near the bottom in approximately (but somewhat randomly) date order, in iPhoto the new events are added right at the top before my earliest 2003 events.
Any ideas on why that may be and how to correct?
Everything is latest version as my MacBook Pro died recently and I replaced it in May with a new desktop iMac.

Processor speed difference.

Hello. I'm taking thought into getting a new laptop. I currently have the iBook G4 (the rest of specifications is at the bottom of my post). I'm quiet the impatient person, so I enjoy lots of performance in a computer. I mainly wanted to know the speed difference between the Processors of the G4 and Intel Duo, as if both CPU's are running at 2.0GHz. I acknowledge that the processors have faster clock speeds.
Thanks in advance,
Sir Wetzel.

I just replaced by G4 Powerbook with a 2.8ghz Core 2 Duo MBP. It really depends on what you're doing, but in real world uses, the Intel processor cuts through video and sound encoding that leaves the G4 standing still. Photoshop launches in seconds, Safari almost immediately with no 'bounce'. RAW editing is a breeze. The G4 lagged badly when it came to RAW editing. It was nigh impossible to use Aperture for example.
I'm not sure it's possible to do what you ask, since the duo is really 2 processors, not one. Try the Xbench website for comparisons between systems.

AppleScript speed difference between 10.4 & 10.5

This post is related to a question I posed in March 2009 (https://discussions.apple.com/message/9226100) regarding the speed difference between AppleScript text handling in OS X 10.5 compared with 10.4.11.
I have recently written a script to search through a text file which is an xml file exported from WorkGroup Manager. The file, which is approximately 1.8 MB, contains all the user names on the school server (just over 1720 of them), their settings and any other information we have added. After adapting some script ideas (using text delimiters and offsets) which I found on the internet to assist with counting the number of users and searching through the information of each one, one at a time, I have a script which works far in excess of my expectations in terms of speed when run under OS X 10.4, but runs slower than molasses in winter under 10.5.
The script counts the number of accounts, extracts each user's log-in name and also their actual name (which we have entered under a 'general info' or 'comments' field - I can't remember exactly where, but it is stored in the file), makes up a complete list of all account names (with the actual name, if present) and also makes up a subset of this information into a separate list which contains only the log-in names of those whose actual name has not yet been recorded on the server, then saves both lists to separate text files.
My original attempts, using some rather clumsy text searching and comparison techniques, took about 1-2 minutes to go through the whole procedure. After some internet searching, head-scratching and a bit more more work, the finished script, when run on my G5 under OS X 10.4.11, takes less than 3 seconds to do all I have described above, including the writing to text files. To say I was pleased would be an understatement!
Because the school/work environment, where the script would be run, is all OS X 10.5 or higher, I thought I should test it out under at least OS X 10.5. The script was developed on my DP 2.5GHz G5 with 8GB RAM running OS X 10.4.11. Using a fresh, clean installation of 10.5 I ran the script and was extremely disappointed. After letting it run for more than 20 minutes and still not finishing, I force quit AppleScript and reduced the number of accounts in the file. 40 accounts took 3 seconds, 60 accounts took 6 seconds, 80 took 11 seconds, 100 took 19 seconds and 120 took 27 seconds. I eventually let the script run right through - total time taken to process 1720 users was 65 minutes, compared to 3 seconds under 10.4.11!
Given that it was tested on the same Mac, with the same amount of RAM, using the same script and the same original text file, the only variable left (that I can think of) is the change of OS version - 10.4.11 vs 10.5.
As was pointed out to me in my previous post, AppleScript in OS X 10.5 handles all text as Unicode and has a greater overhead in processing time as a result. I have implemented the various bits of advice offered by respondents to my original post and changed the way I handled lists, etc. Obviously, if the script works so speedily under 10.4.11, I must have done something right in terms of code optimization/efficiency. It's when that exact same script is run under OS X 10.5 that it slows down incredibly. I even tried it on a 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac running 10.5.8 - it still took 40 minutes and Activity Monitor showed CPU usage by Script Editor constantly above 80% (often well above 90%). Saving the script as an application made no difference in the time taken.
Does anybody have any knowledge about what makes AppleScript Unicode-only text handling so slow? In this case, it is 1300 times slower! Is there any way of coercing/restricting the text handling/parsing to ASCII? If I really have to, I will set up a humble eMac at school with 10.4 on it just to handle large text files quickly with AppleScript, but I would prefer to be able to do it on the normal work Macs which have 10.5 or later on them. As mentioned, under 10.4.11 the script processes the 1.8MB text file with 1720 users and writes results to two files - all within 3 seconds, so I'm not really looking for coding suggestions unless they are directly related to what has changed in AppleScript under OS X 10.5. Without sounding too smug, the script works properly and speedily (at least in 10.4). I really would like to learn about the changes in AppleScript in OS X 10.5 and how to cope with or work around those changes.

Hi,
text 3 thru 14 in largeText
character 3 thru 14 in largeText
text 3 in largeText
character 3 in largeText
These lines will be slow on Leopard
Getting some text in a variable that contains more than 60000 characters will be slower on Leopard,
but I don't know why it's slower
Here a test script.
script o
    property t_text : ""
end script
set a to "abcdefghij"
set tResult to ""
repeat with i from 1 to 3
    set o's t_text to a
    repeat (item i of {17, 15, 14}) times
        set o's t_text to o's t_text & o's t_text -- add characters in the variable
    end repeat
    set StartTime to current date
    -- test
    repeat 20 times
        set b to text 3 thru 14 in o's t_text -- get a text in the variable
    end repeat
    -- end test
    set EndTime to current date
    set TimeTaken to EndTime - StartTime
    set tResult to tResult & " Getting text in the variable which contains " & length of o's t_text & ", (20 times) = " & TimeTaken & " seconds." & return
end repeat
tResult
Here the result on my old G5, 2 x 1.8 GHZ
Getting text in the variable which contains 1310720 characters, (20 times) = 50 seconds.
Getting text in the variable which contains   327680 characters, (20 times) = 12 seconds.
Getting text in the variable which contains   163840 characters, (20 times) =   6 seconds.
The result on the same machine on Tiger is always less of one second.
Also, I try with 20 millions characters on Tiger, the result : getting text in the variable which contains 20971520 characters, (20 times) = 0 seconds.
The solution ( text item in a list)
Here the script
script o
    property my_List : {}
end script
set OldDelims to text item delimiters
set RecordDelimiter to "::::::::::::::"
set LengthOfRecordDelimiter to length of RecordDelimiter
set o's my_List to findAll(read (choose file), RecordDelimiter)
on findAll(str, findString)
    set Oldtid to text item delimiters
    try
        set text item delimiters to findString
        if str does not contain findString then return {"Nothing found"}
        set t to str's text items
        set text item delimiters to Oldtid
        return t
    on error eMsg number eNum
        set text item delimiters to Oldtid
        error "Can't findAll: " & eMsg number eNum
    end try
end findAll
set NumberOfrecords to (count o's my_List)
display dialog "There are " & NumberOfrecords & " accounts."
set StartTime to current date
set text item delimiters to ":"
set FullUserList to {}
set ListOfUnnamedUsers to {}
-- first user needs to be done separately as it is not preceded by RecordDelimiter
set EndOfHeader to "Standard:URL"
set LengthOfEndOfHeader to length of EndOfHeader
set EndOfHeaderOffset to the offset of EndOfHeader in (item 1 of o's my_List)
set OffsetToApply to EndOfHeaderOffset
set TextBeingChecked to text (OffsetToApply + LengthOfEndOfHeader + 1) thru -1 of (item 1 of o's my_List)
tell TextBeingChecked to set {UserName, NameForInfo} to {text item 1, text item 7}
if NameForInfo = "" then set end of ListOfUnnamedUsers to UserName & return
set end of FullUserList to (UserName & tab & NameForInfo & return)
-- now do all the others
repeat with CounterG from 2 to (NumberOfrecords - 1)
    set TextBeingChecked to item CounterG of o's my_List
    tell TextBeingChecked to set {UserName, NameForInfo} to {text item 1, text item 7}
    if NameForInfo = "" then set end of ListOfUnnamedUsers to UserName & return
    set end of FullUserList to (UserName & tab & NameForInfo & return)
end repeat
set o's my_List to {}
set text item delimiters to OldDelims
-- write results to file
-- 1). full user list
set TargetFile1 to (path to desktop folder as string) & "FullUserList1.txt"
try
    open for access file TargetFile1 with write permission
on error
    close access file TargetFile1
    open for access file TargetFile1 with write permission
end try
set EndTime to current date
beep
set InfoToBeWrittenToFile to FullUserList as text
write InfoToBeWrittenToFile to file TargetFile1
close access file TargetFile1
-- 2). list of users without NameForInfo
set TargetFile2 to (path to desktop folder as string) & "UnnamedUsersList1.txt"
try
    open for access file TargetFile2 with write permission
on error
    close access file TargetFile2
    open for access file TargetFile2 with write permission
end try
set InfoToBeWrittenToFile to ListOfUnnamedUsers as text
write InfoToBeWrittenToFile to file TargetFile2
close access file TargetFile2
beep 3
set TimeTaken to EndTime - StartTime
set TimePerAccount to TimeTaken / NumberOfrecords
display dialog (NumberOfrecords & " accounts took " & TimeTaken & " seconds." & return & return & "That equals " & TimePerAccount & " seconds per account.") as string

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