Aperture 3.03 For me preview generation performance is now even slower!

Set up:
24" iMac, Intel Core 2 Duo 2.8Ghz, 4Gb RAM, Radeon HD2600 with 256Mb, 1Tb 7200 Seagate Barracuda HD.
Aperture 3.03, RAW 3.02
OSX 10.6.3
With a Canon 5D Mark II RAW photo (25Mb or so) with some simple adjustments generating a preview is now taking 1 minute per photo. Which is even slower than version 3.02.
I have the previews full size and on quality 8.
Does anyone with the 5D see faster performance on preview of this size, on this sort of Mac?
I want to try and find out if this is normal performance or not before going through all the things I tried in 3.02 which had no effect (clearing caches, rebuilding library, rebuilding thumbnails, de-fragging by copying library to another drive and back, deleting preference files).
I've also had the problem with 3.03 where faces get rotated 90 degrees, so not too impressed so far with this version.

Same here. Previews at 1680x1680 (the max rez of my 20" iMac screen), quality 8, and they take about 2 secs each on the iMac spec'd in my sig. Same on my MBPro, though those are constrained to 1440x max.
Are you talking about just generating a standard preview, or a 100% view render, or what?
I know (still even with 3.0.3) it takes a LONG time to render a 100% view of a photo if it has a bunch of adjustments on it (highlight/shadows + edge sharpen) are the worst for this)... But it does seem a bit faster doing this task now, than with 3.0.2...

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