Aperture 3..1.3 and Lion - progress, or lack of it.
Here's what I've found. Others may want to see if their experience is the same if not already tried.
I installed Lion and the new Aperture upgrade two days ago. Nothing has worked properly since.
Yesterday, I could not open the latest upgrade of Aperture at all on my iMac (8gb Ram installed). Like all other apps, it just hung, and Force Quit caused any other app on the machine to freeze up too.
Today, I booted the machine in Safe Mode. Takes about 5 mins (reminiscent of having a Microsoft machine), but Aperture then opened under this method. I can see all projects and albums in the Browser view. In Split View, the thumbnails appear at the foot of the screen as normal, but the viewing pane is blank. In Viewer mode, nothing shows at all.
All metadata is nevertheless visible in Inspector. In Split View, running the mouse over the blank viewing pane in crop or straighten mode affects the thumbnail in the normal way - it crops or straightens.
So, the problem is clearly that the version from which I would normally edit is simply missing from actual view on screen. This suggests the error is partly in the Aperture upgrade, or at least in how it displays under Lion.
I have been through all three of the Library rebuild processes. Neither of these made any difference to the problem. I can view and manipulate separate versions of the same photos in iPhoto, but iPhoto will not read the Aperture library.
Booted in normal mode, Aperture still will not open at all. It says it is accessing the Library, but the Force Quit screen (even after leaving it for 30 minutes) says Aperture is "not responding".
Nothing on my iMac since installing Lion will give me access to any external USB drive or memory card.
Anyone any suggestions, or workarounds that might move this forward, please?
Tom
Hi Jan,
I spoke to soon, of course. When I closed the call with Apple, everything worked fine. I was unable to recreate any of the problems I had had with Aperture, Finder, or anything else. However, when I turned on my iMac next day, they were all back again, just as before.
I have made two more calls to Apple support since. I have been talked through so many minor system tweaks that I have lost count - removing files from this folder and that, changing settings etc.
Right now, I have just ended a call with a very knowledgeable and helful support agent, and I appear to have a fully working machine. I have been advised to test everything except Aperture very thoroughly, and if it all works, to try opening Aperture and see what happens. The Support team are going to call me again tomorrow, and if there are still issues, they will refer me to the support agents who specialise in Aperture.
Stay tuned. My conclusion is that at the very least, there must be dozens of issues with which Lion is incompatible, and that we users are, of course, doing Apple's product testing for them.
Tom
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