Aperture 3 - a catalogue of disasters.

OK, I have Aperture 3. ITried the Demo - it seemed fine so I plonked down for the upgrade.
Here are the problems I have been having so far:
• Faces seems to take an age to do anything. There have been times when I’ve entered a new person’s name using the Name button, only for it to go into a “beachball spin”. Leaving it for any length of time seems to resolve in nothing. I have had to force quit Aperture 3 a number of times.
• Processing: a number of times, Aperture 3 starts “processing” something. I don’t know what, but it seems to get stuck on something like 3 of 57 (as shown in the Activity window). I have no idea WHAT it’s getting stuck on (the 57 seems to be a randomly chosen number - it’s been stuch on 5 of 20, etc at various times), but quitting and restarting doesn’t make it any better. I have learned that holding down this SHIFT key when starting will force such process not to launch. This “processing” seems to put on hold things like FaceBook uploads - they don’t happen until the processing is over.
• Intermittent beachball hangs. For reasons unknown to anyone other than itself, Aperture will go beachball on me. Dunno why, but Aperture becomes unresponsive, and even if I leave it for a long time, the problem does not go away. I have had to force quit a number of times. In my mind, this is a crash. NO progress bar? No indication of things happening? This means something bad or unplanned is going on.
I have tried rebuilding the database, which kept some of the problems at bay for a little while. I am running it in 32-bit mode because I heard that that may help. I have repaired permissions (but didn’t see any Aperture related stuff being fixed).
All this on a 6GB 8 core system with buckets of hard drive space. The Mac is hardly a slouch. Yet here I am, in a worse situation than when I was running Aperture 2 on a G5 iMac.
Aperture 3.0.1, with the latest Pro App support installed. Mac OSX 10.6.2

Paul J Dunning wrote:
OK, I have Aperture 3. ITried the Demo - it seemed fine so I plonked down for the upgrade.
Here are the problems I have been having so far:
• Faces seems to take an age to do anything. There have been times when I’ve entered a new person’s name using the Name button, only for it to go into a “beachball spin”. Leaving it for any length of time seems to resolve in nothing. I have had to force quit Aperture 3 a number of times.
• Processing: a number of times, Aperture 3 starts “processing” something. I don’t know what, but it seems to get stuck on something like 3 of 57 (as shown in the Activity window). I have no idea WHAT it’s getting stuck on (the 57 seems to be a randomly chosen number - it’s been stuch on 5 of 20, etc at various times), but quitting and restarting doesn’t make it any better. I have learned that holding down this SHIFT key when starting will force such process not to launch. This “processing” seems to put on hold things like FaceBook uploads - they don’t happen until the processing is over.
• Intermittent beachball hangs. For reasons unknown to anyone other than itself, Aperture will go beachball on me. Dunno why, but Aperture becomes unresponsive, and even if I leave it for a long time, the problem does not go away. I have had to force quit a number of times. In my mind, this is a crash. NO progress bar? No indication of things happening? This means something bad or unplanned is going on.
I have tried rebuilding the database, which kept some of the problems at bay for a little while. I am running it in 32-bit mode because I heard that that may help. I have repaired permissions (but didn’t see any Aperture related stuff being fixed).
All this on a 6GB 8 core system with buckets of hard drive space. The Mac is hardly a slouch. Yet here I am, in a worse situation than when I was running Aperture 2 on a G5 iMac.
Aperture 3.0.1, with the latest Pro App support installed. Mac OSX 10.6.2
Hi Paul,
May I suggest you take a look at this thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2343039&tstart=0
We are operating and enjoying A3 here with great speed, and this will most likely solve the issues you are having.
Sincerely,
K.J. Doyle

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I shoot Nikon NEF files and use Aperure exclusively with occasionally a little blending of layers made from versions of the same raw file (to improve the dynamic range a little more).
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"I'm a hobby photographer, mostly landscapes and townscapes, and deal with hundreds rather than thousands of images" Can you keyword images and then use them to sort and group images in View NX? You can in Aperture.
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You can do it, but...
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Performance won't be great unless you're running a really fast network.
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After installing iOS 8 and trying to access Photos, users are presented with a notification titled, "iCloud Photo Library (Beta)." A subsequent message warns, "Photos synced from iTunes will be removed. Syncing photos via iTunes is not supported when iCloud Photo Library is turned on. (#) photos will be removed."
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Afternoon all,
Following on from a separate forum thread I've got here in iPhoto https://discussions.apple.com/message/20902055?ac_cid=op123456#20902055?ac_cid=o p123456, I wondered whether the Aperture thread could also help me out.
I'm looking to have a single product to use as a central catalogue and referencing tool for the 000s of photos I've already got but also the 000s yet to be taken. I'm intending to have these photos stored on a NAS with appropriate backup measures, but accessing them through this as yet unknown product through wi-fi. I'm likely to do minimal photo manipulation other than the basics and enjoy the features of iPhoto so the main benefit is the ability to reference the images from a networked location. TD has kindly advised that iPhoto isnt the right product due to various limits due to networking.
My question is simple: Is Aperture the tool for me?
I look forward to hearing from you.
Tim

If you read TD's answer carefully, it says
It cannot have the Library on a networked location, such as a NAS. iPhoto needs to have the Library sitting on disk formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Users with the Library sitting on disks otherwise formatted regularly report issues including, but not limited to, importing, saving edits and sharing the photos.
The main problem is the formatting of the drive - for Aperture holds the same: The library needs to be on a disk formatted MacOS X Extended. Otherwise you are risking inconsistencies in your Aperture library and open a can of worms, see:
Use locally mounted Mac OS X Extended volumes for your Aperture library
If you absolutey want to store your Photolibrary on a NAS, you can create a writable diskimage formatted MacOS X extended on your NAS and store the library on this disk image. You will have to take care to automount the diskimage before you access Aperture. This will be tedious and slow.
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Your network needs to be very stable, if you want reliable database transactions for your Aperture library.
2. While you can run iPhoto in Referenced mode, with the Masters on a NAS and the library on a local disk, this is inherently unreliable. Here has more:
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I loved Aperture, and used it from version 1, but the lack of significant upgrades sinnce version 3 was released, better RAW processing and better Noise Reduction, to name just two 'wants', forced me to look at Lightroom 4.
I got an offer from Adobe when I upgraded my Photoshop CS5 to CS6 to get lightroom for 50% off, so I thought I'd try it, see what the competition is doing.
Aperture does some things better than Lightroom 4, but Lightroom 4 did some things better than Aperture. Lightroom 5 now does everything I need and more, combined with OnOne Perfect Photo Suite 7.5 plug ins for both Aperture, Lightroom, Photoshop, Photoshop Elements or as stand alone apps, I rarely have to go into Photoshop CS6 any more.
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PhaseOne have Capture One Pro 7 available, which now integrates a cataloguing feature (Phase One bought iView Media some time ago, if memory serves correctly) which has been integrated in version 7. I don't know how well that works as I haven't upgraded from version 6.
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