Aperture 3 and iPhoto 11 Deletion Disaster

I had been using iPhoto 11 exclusively. I decided to try using Aperture 3. I populated a new Aperture library by referencing my entire iPhoto library, leaving the files in their original location. I decided to stop using Aperture and deleted the iPhoto pictures from within Aperture. I then cleaned the Aperture trash, which in turn moves those files to the system trash. Before clearing the system trash, I opened iPhoto to make sure that my files were still there. When I opened iPhoto, I saw all my files there and decided to proceed with clearing the system trash, thinking everything was preserved. The next time I went to use iPhoto, I tried selecting one of the pictures in my iPhoto library and got a black screen with an exclamation point inside of a triangle.
Before this disaster, I had just under 6,000 photos in iPhoto. iPhoto still tells me that I have this many pictures, and the size of my iPhoto library is still 30GB. When I browse inside of the iPhoto library, it appears as though the files that I imported into Aperture are missing their full sized versions, which is causing the black screen with the triangle and the exclamation point. Short of trying to recover the files through some sort of undelete procedure or data recovery attempt, can the pictures be restored from anywhere else?
I unforunately did not keep a backup, and Time Machine (which I do not use) would only let me go back a few hours to right after my last system trash purge, which doesn't do me any good. How come iPhoto is still saying that I have all my photos? How come the iPhoto library is still 30GB? I am guessing that this disaster has cost me about 80-85% of my photos. It just doesn't seem right that I should be able to delete my iPhoto masters from within Aperture. And if I am able to do that, which apparently I am and did, iPhoto should do a better job of reflecting the change.
Thoughts and suggestions for recovering these files? Thanks in advance!

By the way, I have several data recovery software packages. It looks like they are able to recover the pictures (or most of them), but all the filenames are lost.
Then, on no account, do anything that might write to your disk, until you recovered your images.
How come iPhoto is still saying that I have all my photos? How come the iPhoto library is still 30GB? I am guessing that this disaster has cost me about 80-85% of my photos. It just doesn't seem right that I should be able to delete my iPhoto masters from within Aperture. And if I am able to do that, which apparently I am and did, iPhoto should do a better job of reflecting the change.
I can only guess what happened, because you did not tell us how you imported your pictures into Aperture. Probably you used the option to import the images to Aperture as referenced master files, leaving the actual files inside the iPhoto library to avoid duplicates. And when you wanted to uninstall Aperure and delete its database, you told Aperture to delete the master image files and not only the references to the masters. So Aperture deleted the master image files inside the iPhoto Library.
and you were cutting of the branch you were sitting on.
The iPhoto Library must not be modified in any way, other then by iPhoto itself. iPhoto can't be blamed for reporting wrong information, if its database has been corrupted behind its back.
I wish, however, that Aperture would give a fair warning, if you ask it to delete master files locating inside an iPhoto Library package.

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