Aperture 3 and Places - pins disappear

I've been scanning slides to TIFF, importing them into Aperture 3, and assigning places. I've found that with many of my files, when I quit Aperture and later relaunch, the pins are gone. Moreover, I have actually watched pins disappear when I deselect a file in places view.
This happens even when I've written IPTC data to master. It has been inconsistent about which files drop their pins - one file might lose its pin one time, and retain it another.
This is extremely frustrating - has anyone else experienced it? If so, have you figured out how to stop it?
Thanks!
Alex

When you say your "pins disappear", are you saying that the Latitude and Longitude fields in your Metadata are being wiped out? (Select the GPS pulldown preset on your Metadata tab to see them, if you haven't added these to a custom Metadata View yet).
And are you sure that you don't have some sort of filter on that is making the "pins disappear"? I found that Aperture would often turn on a Places filter after an action. I am still trying to get used to how Places works, after adding GPS info from an AMOD logger to about 7000 images shot in Argentina. Sometimes I thought Aperture was broken, only to find that I was not using the new (but poorly documented) feature correctly.

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