Aperture 3: Have Picture Styles finally arrived?

I want the look on my RAWs my camera manufaturer gave them, e.g. Canon RAWs should (for a start) look like in Canon DPP or their JPEGs. With Lightroom 3 I can do that, I think it is called Camera Style and works quite well. There are Camera Styles von Canon, Nikon, etc.
I hoped for Aperture 3 but did not find anything like that. Any chance to simulate this with Presets? Some settings I can start with?
This is the only thing I don’t like about Aperture 3. Besides that it really rocks and migrating from iPhoto was really easy.

@Thomas Boyd: I think it's entirely different from selling photos. Photos are your intellectual property, so to speak. Anyone can take a picture, that's not the point. The point is not everyone can take a picture that other people want to buy.
Presets on the other hand, anyone with a RAW+Jpeg can, within seconds, move some sliders around so the RAW matches the Jpeg, and save those adjustments as a preset. That doesn't take a marketable, sellable skill.
I'm not saying people shouldn't get paid for their work, but let's make sure we're paying them for something we can't easily do ourselves. You may not mind spending $2.99 for something you could easily do yourself in your spare time (despite saying you're "too busy shooting and working on photos," I'm sure you've got 5 minutes here and there of spare time. No one works 24/7), but I do.
When I said it would probably take a few hours to complete, I was being very, very lenient in my guess. The D80 has 5 image optimization modes (Normal, Soft, Vivid, More Vivid, and Portrait), so that's 5 RAW+Jpeg shots, one for each mode, and then tweaking sliders to get the RAW to match the Jpeg. Even if they took 10 minutes per image (which something would have to be seriously wrong for that to be the case), that's still only about an hour worth of work, including taking the pictures. I'll be shocked if it takes more than 20 minutes.
And for the sake of argument, even if it does take an hour to do, it's a one time deal. You don't have to repeat the preset making every time you come back from shooting. Do it once, and it's done, and they're ready to use any time you need them.

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Canon Picture Style Support in Aperture

Is there a way to support the Canon Picture Styles in Aperture? The reason I want to use the Picture Styles is as they give a basic touch to pictures which is often fine for most picture. Only some pictures I really want to go through the full range of processing.
When I shoot picture using my EOS 400D and apply a specific Picture Style, i.e. monochrome, portrait or landscape, then this setting is not applied when importing the pictures into aperture at all!
I realized this when using monochrome as a picture style and then the pictures turned up in color in aperture...

this is probably a good way to come up with your own presets ...
i personally have never used the picture styles (except the BW on my IR only camera - i only want BW jpgs) ... but conceivably you could shoot RAW+JPEG and tweak the RAW till it looks like the JPEG and save those as presets ... it may take a few times to get them close ...
but definitely worth a shot if the picture styles really is the way you want to go ...

Importing Canon Picture Styles into Aperture (how to keep the metadata) RAW

I have a Canon 30D. Often I use the picture styles settings to shoot Monochromes. When I bring them up in Aperture to import they read as Monochromes (they are RAW) and as soon as I import them....Aperture strips it. This is pretty frustrating when I have a shoot of 300 images and 85 of them are black and whites. Canon software keeps the settings if I use their software, but i'm building an Aperture Library.
Does anyone have a fix around this?

Although I don't know for sure, it is possible that Canon Picture Styles are not in industry standard EXIF, and so they might be a Canon private format only readable by Canon software. If that is the case, there isn't much Apple can do but reach some kind of deal with Canon. Apple may or may not want to go to the trouble, because they might not want to also support the private data in other manufacturers' private raw data, like Nikon's encrypted white balance.
It's worth noting that Adobe's software doesn't read Canon Picture Styles either; I've read posts asking about it on their forums too.
Possibly worth noting most of all: The only advantage to shooting in monochrome is to be able to use the camera to visualize it. You can often get a better black-and-white by customizing the conversion from the original raw color data.

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Canon EOS400d 'Picture Styles' & RAW

Can someone please clarify whether or not using different Picture Styles when shooting has any impact on the camera's RAW file, and consequently affects what can be tweaked when processing with Aperture?
Also, what exactly is being 'boosted' in the RAW fine tuning adjustments panel....?

In your opinion, am I losing anything by processing
RAW with Aperture as opposed to using Canon's own DPP
software (which I think just doesn't cut the mustard)
or even ACR with Photoshop?
Not a lot, apart from the vignetting and chromatic abberation correction in ACR.
I actually shoot with a
modified 'standard' style, but from what you are
saying, if I'm using Aperture, this won't matter -
presumably the picture styles only affect how the
400d processes JPEGs in-camera. Correct?
If you set a picture style for a RAW file, DPP will process it to look like the equivalent JPEG, while Aperture should give a result similar to the picture style set to unmodified standard.
I tried using CaptureOne LE which is actually quite a
nice utility (especially as it was free with some CF
cards!) but it doesn't have the capabilities or ease
of use that Aperture has.
C1 is good, even the LE version, but it doesn't really have any cataloguing features or an easy workflow.
Ian

Picture Styles on Import

Is it possible to have Aperture perform adjustments on import? For example, if I wanted to "match" the Standard Picture Style of my Canon camera, could I predefine a certain sharpness, saturation, etc. for every picture that imports? Even better, is there a plug-in or something I can buy that's already done this. Thanks!

Now I could be wrong about this (and I'm sure someone will tell me if I am), but I think I might have found a "solution" to this problem. As the following article explains (and as my own experience has proven), when you import images shot in RAW + JPEG, Aperture quite smartly downloads both, but only displays the RAW -- with the JPEG adjustments automatically applied. So if you applied picture styles to the JPEG, they are applied to the RAW as well. Yes, it takes up a lot of disc space, but if that's not an issue, it might be a way to go.
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24505?viewlocale=en_US

Match Colors (Picture Styles) for D7100

Hello Everyone,
i am fairly new to Aperture and developing RAW Files. I´m currently testing out different RAW Converters and are between chairs on Lightroom and Aperture.
This far i like the workflow and handling of Aperture much better despite on thing.
While shooting JPEGs on my Nikon D7100 i like the colors set to Picture Style Neutral best and Lightroom does have Camera Calibration with this Colorset already matched perfectly. Aperture does display colors very differently. I tried to match colors manually and save it as a preset. So far without success.
Color reproduction could make the edge and i would prefere Aperture if i managed to get the colors right. How could i make a own Colorpreset "Neutral" in Aperture. Playing with the Color Brick didn´t work. I guess because i where doing it wrong.
Thank you,
Christian

Sorry, nevermind.
I just found a Thread discussing the exact same thing.
Seems like it is not that easy.

LR working w Canon RAW with Picture Style

Hi there,
I LOVE LR, like it workflow & retouching but... i very confuse recently with LR
I know LR can't "read" those picture style setting...one day, i tested Canon 5DMKII raw Canon DPP vs LR, sigh....Canon is much better I do think, color in LR is not so good enogh
any comment n idea to deal with raw in LR,
superb appreciate!
Teddy

I shoot Canon but have never experimented much with Picture Style settings. But looking at my camera's Field Guide Book, it says that Picture Styles make adjustments in Tone Curve and Color Saturation. In the Landscape Picture Style specifically, the book suggests the camera also adjusts Color Temperature for greens and blues.
There's no foolproof automatic, one-click way to get the exact same effect as you'd get with a Picture Style in LR, of course, but you can experiment in Develop Mode. You should be able to come close. In fact, you should be able to find more nuanced adjustments that look even better to you, with some practice.
In most cases, rather than adjust the Color Saturation slider in LR, try the Vibrance slider first. (I would slide Vibrance to the right a bit to duplicate in LR's Develop mode what Canon's DPP is doing in these shots.)
To adjust color temperature in LR, you can experiment with the various presettings found when clicking the arrow to the right of "As Shot," or in the second shot, by clicking the eyedropper icon to the left of "WB" and then clicking something purely white (the left subject's jacket, or a white part of a cloud). More nuanced adjustments can be made with the Temp and Tint sliders. It appears to me that in the first shot, Canon's selecting a slightly warmer color temp (higher Temp number) than you set in LR, and in the second shot, Canon's selecting a slightly cooler color temp (lower Temp number) than you are in LR. You could try those adjustments in LR and see if you agree.
I would avoid using the Brightness or Contrast sliders or the Tone Auto button in LR to adjust the tone curve, and instead experiment with three other ways LR's Develop mode can help you adjust the tone curve in a more nuanced way. One is to position the LR cursor in the Histogram so you get a double-sideways arrow icon, and drag the bars left and right, particularly near the two sides of the histogram, until the tone curve extends to each end of the histogram without lighting up either of the triangles in the two upper corners of the histogram.
A different way to adjust the tone curve in LR is to start by moving the Exposure slider so that the overall exposure looks correct. For these two shots, the histogram will be highest in the middle if the Exposure slider is set correctly. (With a nighttime scene or other predominantly dark shot, of course, you want the histogram highest on the left side, not balanced in the middle.) Then, if the histogram does not extend all the way to the left of the graph, move the Blacks slider to the right until the triangle in the upper left lights up, then reduce the Blacks slider just until that triangle goes dark again. Then, if the triangle in the upper right corner of the histogram is lit, move the Recovery slider higher just until the upper right corner triangle goes dark. (If that triangle is already dark, leave the Recovery slider at 0.) Finally, you can move the Fill Light slider if you want to decrease contrast, as in your second shot, make the shadows a bit lighter. Otherwise, leave it at 0. Some photographers would, and some wouldn't. Others would just say, don't take a shot like that in harsh midday light if you have a choice, but not everybody can wait around for a week until the light is perfect!
The third way to adjust the tonal curve in LR is to scroll down in Develop mode and manipulate Tone Curve in various ways. You can drag the sliders in the Tone Curve graph, click points on the graph and drag them up or down, or move the sliders under the Tone Curve. Both your shots appear to me to have slightly lower levels on the dark side of the graph, as if Canon's DPP had pulled LR's Darks and Shadows sliders slightly left. But you'll have to experiment. And this is why it's best not to use Brightness and Contrast in LR, particularly in the second shot, but instead use the Tone Curve or Histogram sliders, because you don't want to affect the contrast everywhere in the shot to get the effect DPP is getting; you want to adjust the contrast specifically in just the darker or shadowed areas.
Finally, are you using a hardware to device to calibrate your monitor? If your prints are not matching what you see displayed in Lightroom, particularly in color and contrast, and you haven't tried a monitor calibrator (hardware, not just software with eyeball adjustments), I'd suggest trying one. Don't just plug it in and use it, read and follow all the instructions carefully. Otherwise it may not help or may even make things look worse.

Canon landscape picture style

Hi, when I import a raw file from a canon camera into Aperture, the colors looks different to the ones that appers on Canons's softwares and as the pixture apear in-camera. I like to acomplish the canon landscape picture style as starting point to modify my pictures. I found some equivalent presents: http:/http://maccreate.myshopify.com/products/aperture-3-presets-canon-picture-s tyles-1 but it seems the page is not working, does anyone know another web page where to buy it? or does anyone know an aproximation how Canon set the landscape colors in order to create my own equivalent Aperture preset?
Thanks!

I have been trying that, but when I choose any standard canon's property picture style, the Canon Picture Style Editor does not show what were the parameters that changed, it just changes the colors on the picture but not the color profile controls. But you're right, at the end, I'll have to somehow copy the colors profiles, saturation, etc by just making an eye comparasion. In the midtime, the Keith Barkley'ssuggestion looks reasonable. Thanks for your time.

I have pictures in a folder, how can I display them in name order?

I have pictures in a folder, how can I display them in name order?

Welcome to the Apple Community.
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Can additional Canon EOS picture styles be added to Lightroom 3.6?

Additional picture styles such as Twilight, Autumn Hues and Studio Portrait can be added to Canon EOS cameras using the User Defined slots. They can be downloaded from http://web.canon.jp/imaging/picturestyle/file/index.html
Can these be added to the drop down list of profiles in Camera Calibration?

Right...you'll have to shoot color charts with them and use those to create the profiles.

Need picture style control for photo and video wit...

Lumia 1020 stands for its excellent phone camera. But I am very disappointed with its JPG output. The whitle balance is always a big problem, then too much contrast and oversaturation. True, the photo is crystal sharp, but who needs a bad color photo with great sharpness?
After Lumia Black, the DNG format comes. Now I cannot shoot without it. So I just find the 1020 is really great, but the built-in processing destorys all.
I don't know about other phone camera, but just look at the iphone's. Thanks to its great overall JPG output quality, keep much more details, so people love to use post-fx apps in their phone to make good-looking photos. Then 1020 for me, I just have to live with the DNGs instead of easy sharing.
808 Pureview has all the picture style control funtion, even in video !! Down the contrast sharpness and saturation, then the semi-CineStyle is coming! Look at the 1020's video sample, it is a shame.
All I want to say is: Can you (I don't know to call Nokia or Microsoft) make some control opitions like 808 or just low down the over contrast/saturation/sharpness photo and video. I don't wanna see a such amazing sensor and lens camera like this terrible.

In very general terms, the requirements for Video will exceed those for Photoshop (PS). If you are looking at PrPro CS5, then the video card WILL make a difference, and PS CS5 now takes advantage of the video card, than before.
For PS, the minimum HDD setup would be a 2x system with physical (not partitions) HDD's. Video has more requirements in this area, and I would say that a 3x setup is the minimum. Do read Harm's linked article, as it is the best that I have ever run across.
For the PS setup, just locate the Scratch Disks for PS on your extra HDD's, the ones with your Project and PrPro Scratch Disks.
Enjoy the new computer, and welcome to the forum,
Hunt

I have pictures in my folders

If I have understood Aperture correctly you can only have pictures in projects and albums. In my case I create a folder for each year and then projects for each month of the year. Sometimes I also create an Album in a project for some specific occasion. However, I have now noticed that the year folder also contains some pictures. I do not understand this. Anybody that can enlighten me?
Aldrin
Macbook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Aldrin,
If your folder is a root level folder or sub-folder (Blue color), selecting the folder will show ALL images in the projects under that folder. I use a year/quarter based system similar to yours, and I actually like the fact that the year folder gives me a look at all the projects within that year.
If you are seeing only "some pictures" as your post suggests, something else is going on that perhaps some other forum member can help you with.
Mike
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Importing from camera into lightroom with camera picture styles in tact (camera neutral)

I use the Camera Neutral picture style on my Canon 5D mark ii when shooting landscape photogtraphy. I would like my photos to remain Camera Neutral when I import them. However, Lightroom always defaults the photos to Adobe Standard. Is there any way to make this not happen? I am fairly new to lightroom (used for 5 months) and would really appreciate the help as I am trying to import 16 gigs of Wallowa Mountain photogtraphy, and do not want to change each photo manualy.

If you always want Camera Neutral picture style to be applied, then open one of your images that you have imported and have changed nothing else in Lightroom. Set the camera profile to Camera Neutral and save new camera default settings. Then whenever you import that setting will be applied to all of your images.
If you don't always want that style, you could save a preset that applies the Camera Neutral picture style, and then you could choose to use that preset during the import process.
It is simply a matter of determining your workflow and then setting things the way you want them to work.

Mimicking Canon Digital Photo Professional Picture Styles

I use a Canon 400D and I would like to be able to use Lightroom in such a way so as to be able to mimic the Picture Styles that the Canon Digital Photo Professional software can produce.
The Canon Picture Styles include settings called Standard, Landscape, Portrait, Neutral, and Faithful. I am mostly interested in the colour rendition produced by each of these Picture Styles.
Does anyone have any presets or the like that will enable me to mimic these Picture Styles in Lightroom to at least some degree? The ones called Neutral and Faithful are of the most immediate interest to me.

It may be helpful to know what the Picture styles are doing to your images in the first place.
Standard takes the pictures with a "normal" colour balance,it increases contrast and saturation a little and increases sharpening to 3 on a scale of 0 to 7
Portrait takes the picture with a slight colour bias towards red to enhance the skin tone, it increases contrast and saturation but less so than standard, sharpness is set to 2
Landscape takes the pictures with an increase in the blues and green colours, contrast and saturation are increased more than in standard, sharpness is set to 4
Neutral does nothing much to the image with no increase in saturation, contrast or sharpness which is set to 0. the colours are handled in the same manner as Standard
Faithful is the same as neutral but the colours are based upon a white balance of approximately 5200K, it is designed to minic film in how it handles the colours. It too does not sharpen the image.
More details can be found at http://web.canon.jp/imaging/picturestyle/index.html
I know this does not answer your questions but it at least should start you in the right direction

Aperture 3: Have Picture Styles finally arrived?

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