Aperture 3 import from iPhoto 9

I shoot almost 100% Nikon NEF using a D700 and D300s.
I just downloaded the Aperture 3 trial hoping it's better and faster than Nikon Capture NX2 with the objective of getting rid of NX2 because it's too slow and iPhoto 09 because A3 appears to make this redundant with the objective of just having the one package for RAW Image Photo editing and organising.
If I import an NEF file from either camera I get one RAW image and the Metadata shows all the correct information. if I select an NEF image from the iPhoto browser and import it I get 2 images one is RAW and the other JPEG. but only the NEF (RAW) image shows the complete Metadata. The JPEG displays"Unknown Lens" under the camera body information and the following information is blank: lens type, serial number, focal length (35mm), exposure mode; focus mode and focus distance.
1. Is this a bug or correct behaviour of the import function and does this mean that if I go ahead and select the import iPhoto Library function will I get get the JPEG that iPhoto creates as well as the RAW original?
2. If that is so why is the EXIF data missing for the JPEG image
3. What is the point of importing the JPEG from iPhoto if a straightforward import direct from the camera only results in an NEF image and not a JPEG being created which is what happens when importing into iPhoto?
4. Is it possible to import just the RAW originals from iPhoto's library?
I know it's new but if anyone else has experienced this I would be grateful for comments/advice.

I think I answered my own question so for those looking at this.
I imported my iPhoto library to see what would happen as I have a full back up if needs be and I found that it did not import the JPEG created by iPhoto unless I had actually made an edit to the original. It took a long time as there were over 4600 images but it all imported ok and first reaction is it does look a bit slicker than Capture NX2. A small personal preference but I really hate the fact that with NX2 I still see parts of my desktop background which is distracting during editing. and it A3 does seem a lot faster. I had no issues of the the described by others but I imported an iPhoto library not an A2 library.

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After some years of using iPhoto I recently upgraded to Aperture 3.2.2. In connection with that and before opening Aperture, I bought a new external hard drive and moved my iPhoto library to it, following Apple's instructions on how to move an iPhoto library to a different drive.
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Unfortunately, the import was incomplete. I decided to try to import again, in the same way, to see if that would result in my having all of the iPhoto images. The re-import was also incomplete. Worse than that, although I had told Aperture not to import duplicates, it imported for a second time many of the images that it imported the first time. I now have in Aperture two separate large but incomplete iPhoto libraries.
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My idea now, subject to any advice anyone can give me, is to move the iPhoto library back to the Mac's hard drive (there is enough room, but little spare), delete everything on the external drive, format the external drive to Mac OS Extended, re-organise some of the iPhoto events, 'delete' the 'contents' of the Aperture library (without affecting of course the contents of the iPhoto library) and try again (possibly by importing the iPhotos this time on an event by event basis).
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My idea now, subject to any advice anyone can give me, is to move the iPhoto library back to the Mac's hard drive (there is enough room, but little spare), delete everything on the external drive, format the external drive to Mac OS Extended, re-organise some of the iPhoto events, 'delete' the 'contents' of the Aperture library (without affecting of course the contents of the iPhoto library) and try again (possibly by importing the iPhotos this time on an event by event basis).
If there is nothing in your Aperture library that you need to keep, that is a good strategy.
But some suggestions:
Before you move your iPhoto Library from its current location (which will render the Aperture library useless, because it is referencing inside iPhoto), check if you accidentally have imported any images as managed into Aperture: create a smart album with the rule "File status is managed" at the top level of the library albums. This way you will see, if you have any images only in Aperture, that need exporting, before you delete the library.
Also right now the best option to import from iPhoto into Aperture is by importing complete libraries, not single iPhoto events or albums. If you import Libraries, Aperture can combine the iPhoto Originals and the edited versions into "Master-Version" pairs and save considerable space. This is only possible by importing the complete library, for more deatails see this recent thread:
Correct Answer Re: Aperture Loses iPhoto Edited Images
I advise against referencing the masters inside iPhoto, for it is risky. If you open iPhoto and accidentally edit or modify the referenced master in any way, then the reference will be broken. It would be safer by far to create a backup copy of your iPhoto Library and to import the image files into Aperture or to relocate the imported files as referenced masters somewhere else, after you imported them.
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Regards
Léonie

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But I am using 8.1.1 - What is going on and how can I get around this?

Does this help?
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3233

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Hi, Thanks for the reply. Just installed Aperture 3 and saw the dual photo import from iPhoto. Makes sense what you note about any modifications/adjustments in iPhoto transfer over to Aperture. I just attempted an export to Aperture; choose iPhoto, File, then Export. The window opens and initial shows export local to be Desktop. I choose Applications, then cursor down. Aperture is gray, and will not let me export to Aperture. I'm probably missing something here, any ideas.
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There's nothing broken and nothing to be fixed. When you migrate from iPhoto to Aperture it imports all the versions - Masters and previews - to the Aperture Library. This is so your migration is lossless.
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How did you import from iPhoto? If you saw the Import panel with raw -jpeg pairs, then you probably did not import your iPhoto library as library, but as files, and then you will see plenty of duplicates - previews, thumbnails, originls, edited versions. If that should be the case, it would be better to delete the import from iPhoto and to import your iPhoto library again, but this time using "File > Import > Library".
Only that would require compatible versions of iPhoto and Aperture. What are your Aperture and iPhoto version numbers?

I recently switched to Aperture. When I opened an image I imported from iPhoto, I don't have an option to edit it. Top of "Adjustments" tab says "image offline". How can I adjust Aperture so I can make adjustment to my iPhoto images?

I recently switched to Aperture. When I opened an image I imported from iPhoto, I don't have an option to edit it. Top of "Adjustments" tab says "image offline". How can I adjust Aperture so I can make adjustment to my iPhoto images?

I never tried importing from the iPhoto library as referenced images. I wonder if Aperture can access images stored in an iPhoto library package? Even if it would work, it sounds like a bad thing to do.
You might consider starting over and this time have Aperture manage the images. That will copy them to the Aperture library, leaving the iPhoto library untouched. This assumes you have sufficient space to make a complete copy of all the images in your iPhoto library plus another copy of each image that Aperture makes as the preview image. You can then back up your iPhoto library (two backup copies, just to be sure) then remove it from your hard drive when you start getting too low on space. As I write this I don't know where your iPhoto or Aperture libraries are/will be located so I'm assuming you have them on your HD.

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I'm guessing this is an extrenal drive, correct? If so make sure the library you're importimng into is really located on the external drive. By default Aperture creates its library in your home pictures folder.

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Your library is big, but nothing out of the ordinary and well within Apertures capabilities.
It's hard to say definitively why the library has grown so, but ultimately it won't matter, once you have your library working well and you configure Aperture how you want it to operate, and you tidy up any unwated artefacts from the import, your library size will become exactly the size it needs to be.
There are a number of possible explanations for why things are going slow.
First, check how you have formatted your Drobo storage. The file system requirements for Aperture are described here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts3252
Next, having chosen to import your iPhoto Library, you have essentially created a new environmet with its own preferences controlling things like previes, faces, places and so on. These could explain both the size and any (temporary) performance issues.
With Aperture running, press SHIFT+CMD+0 (zero). This will show you the activity window so you can see if Aperture is performing any follow-up tasks relating to the import such as building previews, building thumbnails, detecting faces and son on.
If so, allow it time to finish. Once it's finished all the post import activity, it will settle down and begin to operate in a more optimised fashion.
Depending on the history of you old iPhoto library, there could be some clean-up work do in terms of edited copies of originals. Old versions of iTunes used distructive edits, meaning you got an edited copy of your original. Aperture doesn't work this way and you will need to decide if you want to keep those (for example stack them with tier orginals) or if you want to redo any of them using Apertures non-destrutive tools. Later versions of iPhoto used a similar non-destructive approach which will carry over, so it's just any very old edits you may have to make descisions for.
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I am trying to understand Aperture before importing my iPhoto library with some 44,000 photos. In importing a few Events using Aperture's iPhoto Browser, all the photos show up with the wrong time, generally four hours before the time shown in iPhoto. This happens with images taken with three different cameras as well as for scanned images. I have read online that others have had this and similar problems. I have no preset modifications in the Aperture import dialogue.
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Your problem with iPhoto is seems like an issue with some library corruption. +In iPhoto+ Option 1
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Option 2
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Aperture can be installed on two machines but can only be used on one at a time. You asked the salesman ""Can I run the already purchased app on the new mac?" and you can, but not legally. You don't have to purchase another licence, you can simply remove Aperture from one of the other machines.
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I also observed this problem on some images imported from iPhoto. In all cases the the date has already been wrong in iPhoto after upgrading the iPhoto library to version 9.3.2. And when importing to Aperture the wrong date was transferred.
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