Aperture 3 Processes Original RAW Files into a Grainy Mess

I just installed Aperture 3, updated to 3.0.3, and imported a few of my photos (taken with a Sony Alpha) from iPhoto 09 and a few from a Canon 5D Mk II. My iPhoto Edited, Raw files process, load, and the original appears. However, my Original RAW files continue to process and look extremely grainy. What can I do?

Do you have some sort of import preset set?

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Aperture exports jpeg files larger than original RAW files

Can anyone tell me why a RAW file (10.6mb), when exported as a jpeg (10.8mb) from Aperture ends up larger than the original RAW file. The same RAW file when opened and then saved as a jpeg (6.4mb) in Photoshop is a lot smaller. The photo dimensions and resolution are the same in both saved files (34.5mb open file 300dpi 4256 x 2831 pix). I have tried this on several photos, all with similar results. For information I am saving the photos in both Photoshop and Aperture at 300dpi, original size and at a quality setting of 12. In these examples/tests I have done no work to the photos, obviously the file sizes increase after work has been carried out on the photos (in both Ps & Aperture)
Almost doubling the size of saved jpegs has a massive implication on my library and may be one reason to consider Adobe Lightroom as this gives similar jpeg file sizes as Photoshop, i.e. almost half the size of the original RAW file
Reducing the quality setting on saved jpegs is an obvious way to reduce file size, but not answering the question of the considerable discrepancy when saving to the same quality in different software
Is this a feature of Aperture and nothing can be done about it ? I would prefer to use Aperture but cannot cope with the large jpeg sizes !
Any comments would be much appreciated - thank you
Nick

Think you might be right Allen - The 12 quality saved jpegs seem to be pretty high quality, closer to the original than maybe the files saved in Ps at quality 12. I have just run an identical set of processing actions on all the files in Photoshop and the jpegs previously saved in Aperture at 12, 11 and even 8 quality settings seem to be better than the same files saved at 12 in Ps
Bizarrely the file size drops from 10.6mb at quality setting 12 in Aperture, to 3.2mb when saved just one notch down at quality setting 11 in Aperture. That is a massive drop, esp considering the next one down, saving at quality 10 results in a 2.8mb file
rw just ran some checks and tests on the file export settings and file sizes in Aperture, on a file I sent him, and we get the same results. So at least my version of Aperture is not up the wall !!
Would be useful to have the explanations from Apple as to the vast variance in settings and file sizes, but I guess we will just have to keep guessing - and buying more and more hard drives for all the large files
I am considering keeping the RAW originals in future, and I suppose in this case I need only save smaller jpegs, and issue at whatever size they are needed at the time - just needs a bit of planning to look after an ever increasing collection, which is about to have two sets of images added at a time now. Added to the already amassed 80 000 images at last count !)
Thanks
Nick

How can I process a Sony A7 RAW file into Photoshop CS5.

How can I process a Sony A7 RAW file into Photoshop CS5. I tried the file DNG converter 8.3, but it did not work. I was able to download it, but upon reading the memory chip from Photoshop CS5, it reads the jpg files fine, but not the RAW files. I thought the DNG converter 8.3 was the right file, but apparently it is not. Perhaps I need to do something in Photoshop CS5 to initiate it, or place it in a particular directory.. Please help.

First of all, you should have used the Adobe DNG Converter 8.6, not an old, obsolete version. Always use the very latest version. 8.3 was simply the first ACR version to support your camera model, that's all.
Note that the DNG Converter works only on folders, not on individual raw files. Put all your Sony raw files in a folder and run the Converter on that folder containing the raw files.
I have absolutely no clue as to what on Earth you mean by : "upon reading the memory chip from Photoshop CS5".
You also need to make sure that CS5 is fully updated. You cannot rely on the highly and notoriously unreliable Adobe auto updater to tell whether you have the latest update installed or not.
I still have no idea what platform you are on, Mac or Windows. Please read the following for next time:
BOILERPLATE TEXT:
If you give complete and detailed information about your setup and the issue at hand,
such as your platform (Mac or Win),
exact versions of your OS, of Photoshop (not just "CS6", but something like CS6v.13.0.6) and of Bridge,
machine specs, such as total installed RAM, scratch file HDs, total available HD space, video card specs, including total VRAM installed,
what troubleshooting steps you have taken so far,
what error message(s) you receive,
if having issues opening raw files also the exact camera make and model that generated them, etc.,
someone may be able to help you (not necessarily this poster).
A screen shot could be very helpful too.
Please read this FAQ for advice on how to ask your questions correctly for quicker and better answers:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/419981?tstart=0
Thanks!

I can no longer import raw files from my Panasonic Lumix LX5 into Aperture 3.3.2 - raw files from my other Canon cameras are fine. Am still running Lion - NOT Mountain Lion. Tried all available software updates - no joy. Any ideas please?

I can no longer import raw files from my Panasonic Lumix LX5 into Aperture 3.3.2 - raw files from my other Canon cameras are fine. Am still running Lion (10.7.4) - NOT Mountain Lion. Tried all available software updates - all up to date apparently but still no joy. OS X Lion shows the LX5 as a supported file format. I dont want to have to upgrade to Mountain Lion just to see if this solves the problem. Any ideas please.

Since when did this happen? Directly after you upgraded to Aperture 3.3.2?
If it happened directly after the upgrade the problem may be, that the raw support for your camera got lost. For some posters it helped to register the raw support again, see this post by Alan Roseman:
Aperture 3 preview of raw file greenish
If this does not help, you may need to reinstall Lion to bring back the raw support.
But if the problem occured independent of a new installation, ypu may have a problem with your camera or the card you are using. Have you tried to use a different card or to reformat the card in the camera?

Ability to process several raw files with the same content but with different exposure into the single picture

Can you add to the Lightroom an ability to process several raw files with the same content but with different exposure into the single picture?
Base raw files can be given with exposure bracketing during shooting, for example.
The goal - to get maximum details in darks and lights (if we use the "ligths recovery" or "fill lights" we lose the quality because raw file just have no all required information).
The similar (but not the same, only the idea) thing - is High Dynamic Range Photography in Adobe Photoshop
Thank you

The plugin LR/Enfuse does this already. And of course Photomatix have a plugin available for Lightroom. This essentially amounts to pixel editing, which is beyond the range of Lightroom's metadata editing.

I have accidentally deleted a large number of develped images in Lightroom before I did a backup. I reimported the original raw files back into Lightroom hoping the develop settings would be re-established but no luck. Notice system mau have done an auto-

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I have accidentally deleted a large number of develped images in Lightroom before I did a backup. I reimported the original raw files back into Lightroom hoping the develop settings would be re-established but no luck. Notice system mau have done an auto-backup as have an lrcat-journal file. Can I use this to restore my develop settings. I also have jpgs generated from all the deleted images.

Hello,
if you have a backup of your catalog you can do the following:
1. Backup your catalog first
2. Restore your backup catalog to some location
3. Open your current catalog and select "files->import from another catalog".
4. Select your backup catalog and your lost images. LR ask you if you want to overwrite the current settings or save them as a virtual copy.
As an alternativ you can open your backup catalog, select the "lost" images and save the development settings as xmp sidecar fiels (using ctrl-s). Then open your current catalog, seletct the images and use "Metadata->Read Metadata from files".

How do I not import RAW files into iPhoto

I shoot RAW + Jpeg with my cameras... Up until a recent upgrade to Mavericks... I would put the SD card in the iMac and it would import all the JPEGs, and then say something like 75 files could not be downloaded.
Those were the large RAW files and I would then just move them to an External Hard-drive and use Lightroom and Canon's DPP to edit them.
After the OS upgrade the RAW and JPEGs now both import into iPhoto and onto the Mac Hard-drive.
I can't seem to find a way to not import the RAW file into iPhoto. Is there something I am missing? I do not want those large RAW files wasting space on the mac, and I have notice iPhoto is really slow since the upgrade.
Thanks for any help

A. To move an iPhoto Library:
Make sure the drive is formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
1. Quit iPhoto
2. Copy the iPhoto Library from your Pictures Folder to the External Disk.
3. Hold down the option (or alt) key while launching iPhoto. From the resulting menu select 'Choose Library' and navigate to the new location. From that point on this will be the default location of your library.
4. Test the library and when you're sure all is well, trash the one on your internal HD to free up space.
B. iPhoto and Raw
1. The Raw processing engine in iPhoto the same one used in Aperture, but with less fine control. (Think of the differences between Word and TextEdit, iMovie and Final Cut).
2. Processing Raw in a 3rd Party Application
You can also process your Raw with a 3rd Party app like ACR or Photoshop. But iPhoto does not handle this gracefully and it's a bit of a kludge.
First off set your preferred app as an external editor in iPhoto:
You can set Photoshop (or any image editor) as an external editor in iPhoto. (Preferences -> General -> Edit Photo: Choose from the Drop Down Menu.) This way, when you double click a pic to edit in iPhoto it will open automatically in Photoshop or your Image Editor, and when you save it it's sent back to iPhoto automatically. This is the only way that edits made in another application will be displayed in iPhoto.
Note that iPhoto sends a copy+ of the file to Photoshop, so when you save be sure to use the Save command, not Save As... If you use Save As then you're creating a new file and iPhoto has no way of knowing about this new file. iPhoto is preserving your original anyway.
Next: In the iPhoto Preferences -> Advanced, elect to use Raw with your External editor:
Now when you go to edit the Raw it will be sent to your external editor.
Now for the kludge:
You cannot save a Raw. The work you do must be output to a new file, in a new format (jepg, tiff, whatever). However, as the External Editor is making this new file iPhoto has no knowledge of its existence. Therefore you must save it to the desktop and then import it back to iPhoto as a new file.
This means that you will have your Original Raw and the processed version in iPhoto but they will not be recognised as version and original. iPhoto will see them as two separate shots.
Further - and this is quite a consideration: Lightroom is not an editor. Like iPhoto it's a database app and images need to be imported, processed and exported from it. It occupies the same place in the workflow (manager/non-destructive processing) as iPhoto does so in makes zero sense to use both...
Regards
TD

Associate original Raw files with JPEGs tagged with metadata?

Before the advent of Aperture, I used to use Adobe Camer Raw (ACR) to do all my raw conversions, and save the settings in sidecar XMP files. Then for 10-20% of the files, I'd do some more processing in Photoshop and generate PSDs. These were all my master files (raw + PSD).
That was fine as far as it went, but it didn't allow any serious organizing or searching capability.
So I would do a batch export of highest quality JPEGs of all these master files, and import those into iPhoto. I'd then rate, keyword, comment, and organize the photos in iPhoto. If I ever wanted to go back and make a 13x19-inch print, I'd use iPhoto to find the file (via metadata such as keywords, date, album, comments, etc.), then use that filename to go back and find the original raw (or PSD) file and print from that.
Of course, aperture obviates the need to have 2 independent sets of images like that for new images.
However, what if I want to bring my old images into Aperture? I'll import the iPhoto library, and get the benefit of all the metadata tagging (ratings, keywords, etc.), but still have to go back to and separately import the directories of original raw files. But then the JPEGs and the raws are not associated in any way.
I have not changed any filenames, so the JPEGs and raws have exactly the same filenames except for their extension. Is there any way in Aperture to associate them with each other, or automatically apply the metadata from the JPEGs to the raw files? An Automator action maybe?
Thanks for any assistance.

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So I would do a batch export of highest quality JPEGs
of all these master files, and import those into
iPhoto. I'd then rate, keyword, comment, and organize
the photos in iPhoto. If I ever wanted to go back and
make a 13x19-inch print, I'd use iPhoto to
find the file (via metadata such as keywords,
date, album, comments, etc.), then use that filename
to go back and find the original raw (or PSD) file
and print from that.
<...>
I did a fairly similar thing, as I think did a lot of people.
However, what if I want to bring my old images into
Aperture? I'll import the iPhoto library, and get the
benefit of all the metadata tagging (ratings,
keywords, etc.), but still have to go back to and
separately import the directories of original
raw files. But then the JPEGs and the raws are not
associated in any way.
I have not changed any filenames, so the JPEGs and
raws have exactly the same filenames except for their
extension. Is there any way in Aperture to associate
them with each other, or automatically apply the
metadata from the JPEGs to the raw files? An
Automator action maybe?
Well, I have an idea that might help...
Try importing both JPG and RAW files into the same project. Then view all the files in the project, and auto-stack... sicne the JPG and RAW files were taken together they should group, I am guessing in the same way for all of them (RAW on one side of the stack, JPG on the other).
Once you figure out which side is which in the stacks, use the Lift & Stamp tool to copy settings from each JPG into the RAW version. To make this quicker, select either the Lift or Stamp tool from the tool bar (I'd reccomend lift) and then hold down the Option key to change the tool into a stamp tool on the fly. Thus the process would be, click on a JPG to Lift, hold down option and click on the adjoining RAW to stamp. Repeat for each image, using the Project management view which is all thumbnails. Kind of manual but you should be able to finish quickly.
Good luck with the project.

How to merge RAW files into iPhoto Library?

Hi,
I have several (Aperture-) modified photos in iPhoto. When I click on any one of those photos in iPhoto (9.5.1) and then click on File -> Reveal in Finder -> Modified File – it reveals the location of a jpg-file inside my iPhoto Library. So far, so good.
However, when I choose File -> Reveal in Finder -> Original File it takes me to an external folder (located in my Home Picture library) and reveals the original RAW-file. I don't know why they are in a folder outside the iPhoto library but I suppose it has something to do with me editing them outside of iPhoto. And this is not a library but just a regular folder containing RAW-files.
How can I merge all my RAW-files so that they are, neat and tidy, all inside my iPhoto library?

However, when I choose File -> Reveal in Finder -> Original File it takes me to an external folder (located in my Home Picture library) and reveals the original RAW-file.
You can use Aperture to move the raw originals back into the iPhoto/Aperture library, if your iPhoto and Aperture versions are still compatible.
Open your library in Aperture and select all photos with raw originals in the Browser and use the command "File > Consolidate Originals".
You will be prompted, if you want to move the files or to copy them. Select "Move files".
The reason they originals are outside the library is probably caused by the way you imported them. Check your import settings in Aperture.
In the Import panel the option "Store files" should be set to "In the Aperture Library".
And in iPhoto the "Advanced" preference for importing should be "Copy items to the iPhoto Library"
Regards
Léonie

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I've just upgraded from Elements 5 to 8...
I am quite happy with using RAW files and all went smoothly using ACR in PSE5, however, it appears that somewhere, somehow, ACR 5.5 or the Editor in PSE 8 are saving settings when I ask it not to save any. It has overwritten two of my original RAW files despite me asking it not to!
The process:
from Organiser, I choose editing in Elements Editor
ACR opens the file and I make changes to settings including a crop
I choose "open image" and it takes me into Editor
I decide I don't want to retain any of the changes I have made, so I hit the "close" button - it asks me if I want to save, i say "no"
Back in Organiser, the orginal RAW image has been cropped and altered!
Thankfully it's only been two relatively unimportant shots so far, but this could have been disastrous.
How do I discard all changes and get back to my original RAW file? Do I have to do something different in PSE8?
Your help would be most welcome
Thanks

Thanks for your replies and hints.
I was really worried that things had changed dramatically between versions of PSE/ ACR.
I will check out the .xmp thing - I am sure you are right, i definitely haven't saved anything of my own accord.
It was the terror of seeing an altered file in Organiser that set me in a panic.
*breathes deeply*
All will be well!
Many thanks again

Is there a way to import Raw files into LR catalog ..including..any edits performed in an external raw file editor such as Capture One?

Is there a way to import Raw files into LR catalog ..including..any edits performed in an external raw file editor such as Capture One?
I can import the Raw file successfully but cannot see any edits that were applied in Capture One. Im assuming no but just checking.

Your assumption is correct, Capture One, Lightroom and other third party raw processors have their own proprietary processes and profiles for rendering the raw data.
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Random Original RAW files unavailable in managed library. :(

I've had an Aperture library that has traveled with me through all of the various updates (up to and include 3.4.3), but now in random projects (and most but not all photos) the original RAW file isn't available, only the preview. The problem, is that now I can't edit or even export the photos. I recently went through a whole "corrupt library" restore from a vault that I keep up to date, but now I'm going to try to rebuild the database.
Very disconcerning. Hopefully there is a simple cause and remedy someone can help me with.

Thanks for the reply! I went through all three first aid steps over the last two days (in increasing order), so first was permissions, then repair, then rebuild the database. I haven't updated the vault since I noticed this issue a few days ago, but I don't know how long it's been going on.
Also, I opened the library file by showing the package contents, and navigated to a masters file folder that I could compare to the viewer, and if you look at the screenshot below, IMG_4870.CR2 is the first RAW file in the folder. It then skips two files (IMG_4871 and IMG_4872) which both show the yellow "!" icon in the viewer, then the next raw file is IMG_4873. What this tells me, is that, in fact, the RAW files really DON't exist in the folder of that import.
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For future reference, I'm going to set up a mirrored RAID drive set and do a live backup of the masters during the import.
I REALLY hope I can recover the originals from this...

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I use Photoshop CS3. When I pull my RAW files into it I lose a lot of information. For example I took a picture of my black dog. I set the camera (Canon 40d) to save the file and both RAW and high res JPG. When I pull both files directly into photoshop the JPG has more detail information in the highlights and shadows than the JPG file does. This should be the reverse. To see if the problem was in the file or in the process of pulling it into photoshop I also pulled it in through Lightroom. And I used Zoom Browser (software that came with my camera). Zoom Browser forced me to convert to a TIFF before importing it to Photoshop. I'll try attaching a file I made that shows the results of each.
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Here's a link to the example:
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Thanks

Sorry, you did state the camera model and ACR 4.6 is fine for it . Nothing wrong there!
Without wishing to dodge the isssue, I suggest you take it to the ACR forum where the real experts on that aspect of Photoshop are.
Camera Raw forum.

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When will Aperture support RAW files from a Leica d-lux 6?

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Converting raw files into tiffs and preserving the orig. date created

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Thanks Mylenium
As Mylenium has said, this information can be added later by various means. It will also depend on the software you are using on what date it is reading!
As an example there are:
The files date created
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XMP schema CreateDate
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