Aperture 3 Vault - Updating Vault issue

I've upgraded to Aperture 3.
I created a new Vault.
I started a backup to the new vault 14 hours ago and it's still chugging away with the progress bar at about the 50% mark with a status of "Updating Vault". It hasn't made any progress since it stopped copying the masters about 2 hours ago.
My library is around 1.5TB and 175K files.
This is the third time I have tried backing up to a new vault and it always hangs at this point. I'm currently using Superduper to make a copy of my library so I have a current backup of some kind.
Is anyone else experiencing this?

You guys aren't backing up these vaults to an external Western Digital hard drive are you? If so, the problem could be that the drives are formatted in fat-32. Aperture 3 doesn't support fat-32 drives. Aperture 2 didn't support them either but was, apparently, more tolerant about them. Aperture 3 flat out doesn't work with them.
Any external drives used with Aperture 3 MUST be formatted in Mac extended format.
FWIW, I updated the vault on my Mac Pro for the first time (since installing Aperture 3) this morning. It completed without issues and took the normal amount of time for a brand new vault creation.
BTW, I choose to leave my master images in their current location and reference them instead of copying them to my Aperture Library. I believe a vault update of an Aperture Library that is managed (all masters copied to the library) instead of referenced (left in their original location) will take longer and make for a much larger vault backup.
Mark

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Aperture 3 vault update stops.

So I reformatted my external HDD to OSX Extended Journaled so that Aperture 3's vault will work with it.
When creating the vault, everything is fine until it's about 50%, and then it just stops. No progress is made for about an hour. Aperture isn't hung, but I have to force quit it. When I look at the Disk Activity tab in the Activity monitor, it's idling, and not pegged to the maximum of ~17mb/s read/write that it does when it's updating the vault.
I've deleted the vault and started over twice, but the same thing happens each time.
All software is up to date.
Aperture 3
10.6.4

It is possible that there is an issue somewhere in your library and that it is struggling to write something to the vault. Perhaps try the steps listed on the Aperture 3: Troubleshooting Basics page.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3805
Tony

Aperture 3 vault update problems

I recently upgraded to Aperture 3. I have two problems with it:
- The size of my library is somewhat north of 700 GB. The libary is stored on one external (Firewire 800) disk and so is the vault. I have worked today on some of my pictures and wanted to update the vault. When I do so on the general update vault icon the program goes on to calculate the disk space and then turns off. When I try to update by pressing the icon next to the specific vaults graphic it gives me a note that the disk space is not enough mentioning that a ridiculous amount of GBs are needed (numbered in the millions) and there is thus not enough space. Can anybody help?
- The use of the keyboard shortcuts work at times and at other times they stop working at all. I have no clue what the trigger in each direction is. Any clues?

It is possible that there is an issue somewhere in your library and that it is struggling to write something to the vault. Perhaps try the steps listed on the Aperture 3: Troubleshooting Basics page.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3805
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Aperture 2.1.1 and OS X 10.5.5. - Can't create nor update Vaults!

After updating to OS X 10.5.5 and installing the latest RAW file plug-ins update from Apple yesterday, I cannot update my existing Aperture vaults, I get the following error message:
The following error occurred:
Aperture has detected a problem with the vault “Aperture Vault”. You need to remove this vault and create a new one.
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Aperture has detected a problem with the vault “Aperture Vault”. You need to remove this vault and create a new one.
I ran Disk Utility - Repair Disk Permissions - no problems. I installed 10.5.5. combo update over the existing system, restarted, and still I cannot create a new vault. The same error message. Any ideas why?
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I am having exact same problems. Software update says that I have all the latest updates for system and Aperture (including the latest RAW file plug-ins). I can't update vaults. Every time I try to update, I get the following error message:
The following error occurred:
Aperture has detected a problem with the vault “Aperture Vault”. You need to remove this vault and create a new one.
I have deleted all vaults and tried creating new vaults. Aperture will permit the creation of the vault, but when I attempt to update it for the first time, Aperture works away for a while comparing the 'library' to the empty vault and returns the exact same error message:
The following error occurred:
Aperture has detected a problem with the vault “Aperture Vault”. You need to remove this vault and create a new one.
I rebooted computer and restarted Aperture holding down the option key. I requested that Aperture perform a 'Consistency Check' and when completed, I restarted Aperture the same way so that I could request that Aperture 'Rebuild Now' all projects. Once both activities had finished, I tired again to create a vault and update it and was able to create the vault, but unable to update it. The same message was returned:
The following error occurred:
Aperture has detected a problem with the vault “Aperture Vault”. You need to remove this vault and create a new one.
I did notice a change in Aperture's behavior before and after performing the 'Consistency Check'. Before performing the consistency check, Aperture had stopped giving this message upon quitting:
'Updating information for sharing previews'
After the consistency check, Aperture upon quitting would update information for sharing previews.
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Aperture 2.1.2 vault update error

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Does aperture vault update just add new photos and information?

I am wondering if the Vault function when updated will just add the new photo(s) and new adjustments or replace the entire vault. I have already copied the entire library as a back-up on a different external. Was planning on just manually updating the files but wanted to try out the Vault. The information is unclear that it only updates NEW photos and info while keeping the vault and just adding.... Any answers would be great. Thanks...

Seattle,
I think I understand your question, but I got a little fuzzy after reading this:
The information is unclear that it only updates NEW photos and info while keeping the vault and just adding....
Anyway, when you perform the "Update Vault" function, Aperture does replace the vault. It updates the vault such that it reflects changes to your library since the last time that vault was updated. With a large library, but only a few changes, the vault update is pretty quick.
nathan

Aperture locks up when trying to update Vaults.

When I try to update vault I get the spinning beach ball and Aperture becomes unresponsive. I have to use force quit to exit the application.

I'm having the very same problem. This is bad news. I upgraded to Mavericks last week, and then had to update Aperture. Now it says my 400+GB library has to update, and then at the end it won't complete. I've done this with a three months older copy of the library.
Apple, you need to figure this out--I'm a working professional and now I don't have access to 4-5 years worth of work--this is serious. My library appears to be corrupted.

Can I stop/pause a vault update?

Okay, I've used vaults for a while but I recently moved my library around and ended up recreating my vault. I think my library is around 250GB and it is taking FOREVER to update. I have already had to force quit Aperture a couple of times when it couldn't finish the vault update overnight, but this time I left it running on my iMac for 24 hours (so far) and it is still not complete. I just cannot wait any longer, I need to use the machine. Does anyone know ift there is a way to stop/pause the vault update and return at a later time? Obviously I can force quit Aperture, but I can't imagine force quitting in the middle results in a very reliable Vault. So, if there's any advice here I would really appreciate it. I mean, time machine can pause in the middle as can many backup apps, I just don't know if I can use something that requires over a day of continuous use to just backup my files!
Along that same line, does anyone have any opinions on using a different backup app like Carbon Copy Cloner for my Aperture library? I've used TM in the past with poor results (it was very hard to get back the data I needed to recover). Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

What Doug said.
Note that Masters need only be backed up once (but to multiple backup locations) and that backup should happen immediately after copying to the hard drive from the camera card, before involving Aperture or any other images management app.
Time Machine is an ongoing regular-routine backup process. Image originals instead need irregularly timed backup, once.
IMO referenced Masters make far more sense than building huge managed-Masters Libraries.
• Hard disk speed. Drives slow as they fill so making a drive more full (which managed Masters always does) will slow down drive operation.
• Database size. Larger databases are by definition more prone to "issues" than smaller databases are.
• Vaults. Larger Library means larger Vaults, and Vaults are an incremental repetitive backup process, so again larger Vaults are by definition more prone to "issues" than smaller Vaults are. One-time backup of Referenced Masters (each file small, unlike a huge managed-Masters DB) is neither incremental nor ongoing; which is by definition a more stable process.
Managed-Masters Libraries can work, but they cannot avoid the basic database physics. I recommend putting the Library on the internal drive and keeping Masters on the external drive by reference.
HTH
-Allen Wicks

Error when updating vault 3.3

Hi,
Just updated to 3.3
tried updating vault
it says "To open this Library in Aperture, you must quit (null)"
I click cancel and Aperture quits
if hold down option and open and the go to the vault it's greyed out
Any one know how to update from Aperture 3.2.3
Mark

"Using Aperture Library First Aid Utilities
Aperture 3 includes a new tool called Aperture Library First Aid that can correct the most common library and database issues Aperture 3 users are likely to encounter. To access the tool, do the following:
Quit Aperture 3 if it is currently open.
Press and hold the option and command keys while you launch Aperture 3.
The Aperture Library First Aid utility will launch, and provide three different repair processes you can perform.
Repair Permissions: Examines your library for permissions problems and repairs them. This requires Administrator access.
Repair Database: Checks for inconsistencies in your library and repairs them.
Rebuild Database: Examines and rebuilds your database. This option should be used only when repairs to the database or permissions do not address library problems."
>>> repairing permissions will most likely resolve your problem.

Cannot update vault or generate new one

I am at my wits end. After many problems early on with Aperture 3, I thought I finally had it working. Aperture user since version 1 with about 11,000 images in managed library. When A3 came out, I updated immediately, and like many others, suffered a world of woe.
Due in no small part to issues I had with so many things like endless reprocessing, strange jpeg exports, off color previews and thumbnails, crashes, hangs, etc, I upgraded to eSATA external disks for the library and copied it to reduce fragmentation. Over the last couple of months, I have flushed caches, deleted plists, reimported, etc. During all of this time, I just made multiple copies of the library rather than update my vaults. I thought it was more or less working, and in the last few weeks I have finally been able to import some new projects (though not without drama if I do not just use a new project and move things later).
Recently, I started trying to update one of my Aperture 2 vaults. It gets about halfway through, then hangs forever. I have since discovered that I cannot generate a new vault at all. So far, I have tried a new vault, new vault with all other vaults deleted, flushing caches and deleting plists. I have run all three options of repair, repair permissions, and rebuild database from the cmd-opt startup menu, multiple times. Each of the latter times, I used a freshly formatted, empty disk (HFS+, journaled) and have tried eSATA and FW800.
When this version of the library was moved from A2, it was first allowed to process with faces off. I then turned on faces, and after another long while, it finished processing again. Places is off. There has been some flakiness with this iteration of the library in occasional jpeg exports looking very blue, a few images originally imported into A3 saying they were not and needing reprocessing, and rare hangs. I think it was done with 3.01, but am no longer sure.
Based on commentary by rw boyer about TIFF's causing issues, I rounded them all up, exported them, and deleted them from the active library, emptying the trash afterward. Still no joy. Still, I suspect a corrupted image or images in there somewhere.
I am sort of out of ideas. I could start over with last A2 library and re-import everything since, but that will take a lot of time. Any idea if it will work? Should I re-install A2 and rebuild that library first? Arghh!
In my humble opinion, Apple has really fumbled here. A3 is very ambitious, but just not ready for prime time. In the long wait for it, I spent some time with the Lightroom 3 beta. It is workable, and I will go to it if I have too, but really like Aperture better. I could also retreat to A2 and hope they fix this. I hope one of the good people in this discussion has a good suggestion.
Thanks,
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Vault Update

It seems that with Aperture 2, the vault does not need updating after making adjustments to images.
The update progress indicator remains black. If I remember correctly, with Aperture 1.5.6, the update progress indicator would turn yellow after making an adjustment to an image. Am I correct in my recollection? If so, how is 2.0 updating adjustments to the Vault?

I, too, have the same issue.
In aperture, making adjustments to a RAW file, or even a JPG file, in the adjustments section no longer yields a yellow vault icon indicating the master image has been altered.
However, if you crop, rotate, straighten, stamp etc, the yellow vault icon changes from grey to let you know the master files have been altered.
I called Apple tech support, and they recreated the issue.
They mentioned they will be speaking with their Aperture team to correct this in future updates, but as of now, there is no work around.

Error when I "Update Vault Path..."

I have had some lingering problems with my Aperture library that I am just getting around to addressing. One is that I need to back up to my vault, but it is not letting me do so. When I hit the little (red) refresh button on the bottom of my window, I get the message:
"Update Connected Vaults?
Some vaults are not connected. Do you wish to replace the contents of all connected vaults with the current contents of your library?
This cannot be undone."
Because I'm an adventerous guy, I did this, but when I try to refresh my vault the next time I get the same error.
So I started poking around and found the "Update Vault Path" menu item. This sounds like it should solve my problem, but when I go through and select my vault and try to update the path I get the error message:
"Incorrect Vault Selected
The path could not be updated because the selected vault does not match the original vault."
This is definitely the right vault. It is on a partition of my Time Capsule. However I may have moved the file or changed the name of something a few months ago, which I suspect is why I'm having this problem now?
What do I do to get that vault path back in order?

Is this Aperture 3? Are you talking about one library or multiple libraries? How many vaults do you have connected to the library?
If you click the *show/hide Vaults* button what does Aperture show you? This is the name of your vault(s) and their locations. Does that match what you think it should be?
Sounds like you may be better off just creating a new vault and using that going forward.

Need help in distributing Master Folder (all my original pics), Aperture Library, Aperture Back-up, Vault and Time Machine

I have a desktop iMac and three external HDs. One HD called Aperture Library (2T) now has Aperture Library, Time Machine backups and Master Folder, which is where I put my RAW files of pictures I want to keep. A second HD called Aperture back-up (1T) has another large Master Folder. This was created a long time ago when I was using Lightroom. I plan to transfer pictures on to HD Aperture Library > Master Folder so I will have 1 Master Folder. A third external HD called Vault (1T) now only contains my Quicken b/u.
I have not made a vault yet for Aperture, because I am in the process of exporting files from Lightroom and bringing them into Aperture 3. What a mess, especially because I was not able to use my photo apps (Lightroom or Aperture) for a few months and forgot the do's and don'ts. Please help me organize this stuff while I have the time and motivation. Greatly appreciated.

Note that Masters need only be backed up once (but to multiple backup locations) and that backup should happen immediately after copying to the hard drive from the camera card, before involving Aperture or any other images management app.
Time Capsule is an ongoing regular-routine backup process. Image originals instead need irregularly timed backup, once.
IMO referenced Masters make far more sense than building huge managed-Masters Libraries.
• Hard disk speed. Drives slow as they fill so making a drive more full (which managed Masters always does) will slow down drive operation.
• Database size. Larger databases are by definition more prone to "issues" than smaller databases are.
• Vaults. Larger Library means larger Vaults, and Vaults are an incremental repetitive backup process, so again larger Vaults are by definition more prone to "issues" than smaller Vaults are. One-time backup of Referenced Masters (each file small, unlike a huge managed-Masters DB) is neither incremental nor ongoing; which is by definition a more stable process.
Managed-Masters Libraries can work, but they cannot avoid the basic database physics.
HTH
-Allen Wicks

I want to transfer my vault to a new HD. The new has been formatted for Mac. Update Vault path is grayed out, despite doing all the correct steps beforehand

I have followed directions to transfer my vault to a new HD. It is grayed out, despite doing all requisite steps beforehand. If I get 'info' on Aperture the lock icon shows and I cannot change it to unlock.

I think you may be getting confused by the 'Lock'.
The vault is locked in the files system to prevent accidental deletion.
The reason the 'Update Vault Path' is greyed out is because it is still detecting the original vault on your system.
Here's a simpler process.
Restart your system (Aperture may still have a reference to the vault and this will clear it).
Make sure you have copied the vault to the new location.
Move the vault to trash. It will warn you the file is locked. Continue to move it anyway.
Empty your system trash. It will warn you the trash has locked files. Continue to empty anyway.
Now the old vault is gone from your system, in Aperture, the vault will show as disconnected and you can update the vault path:
You can then Navigate to the new location:
And the vault will reconnect and show the available storage of the new drive:
I suspect you are following advice about trying to remove the lock. But this is not necessary, the lock means you'll simply get warnings when deleting (assuming you have permissions to delete), but you can jsut override these warnings. If at any stage you get an error saying the file is in use, just reboot and retry that stage.
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