Aperture and Adobe CS on MacBook?

I was recently told that I would have a hard time running Aperture and Adobe CS on a MacBook. It was recommended I get a MacBook Pro since it has a dedicated Graphics Card.
Is this true?
Have any of you had success running Aperture and Adobe CS on your MacBook? What were any problems you experienced. Do you think they warranted spending nearly twice as much on a MacBook Pro?
I appreciate your replies in advance! Thanks.

kristinecollier wrote:
Thank you so much for such a speedy response! I appreciate your help.
Now you have me considering a desktop rather than a laptop, too. I'd hate to spend so much and then not have an accurate display of what I'm editing.
Would you think the iMac would be sufficient? What would be an optimum setup in your opinion?
Well, you may find varying opinions here on this one.
You can and I do calibrate my MBP with a Spyder from Data color (which incidentally is as good as I've seen with the multi hundred calibrators).
But truth be told, I do any color adjustments and any tethered shooting via Aperture when connected to my 20" Apple LCD if I can.
Now, if you were to only get the MBP which is a fine machine i would get the matte screen for sure.
As far as the iMac goes, I have not worked on one but it's better than the MBP (even though it's glossy lcd). This is because it is an 8bit rather than 6bit color which laptops are.
I would suggest some hardware calibration tool(check Spyder by datacolor) but for the most part over all color accuracy will be with the stand alone cinema displays connected to the MBP or even the iMac and naturally a MacPro tower.
If you get the iMac just get the 24" as it's lcd is of a superior quality to the 20" iMac.
your best solution is what you can best afford so if say the MBP and the stand alone 20 or 23" cinema display or the Tower and maybe the 20" cinema display.
The stand alone Apple displays are very good especially when calibrated with hardware tool.

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Wow, maybe this is what Schorr meant by "VERY soon" in this post in this thread on March 10th.
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We will also be adding support for 11 other RAW formats from different cameras, including the Nikon D40, Leica Digilux 3, Panasonic Lumix DMC-L1, Samsung GX-1L, and seven of the Leaf Aptus and Valeo models.
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I would love to set up Aperture to allow me to edit images in Adobe Camera Raw. I can open images from Aperture in Adobe Camera Raw by setting Adobe Bridge as my external editor, but none of the adjustments are saved in Aperture. From Bridge, I can also save the file as a dng file that Aperture should be able to read and save it in the numbered folder where Aperture placed the original raw image, but the saved dng file doesn't show up in Aperture. Apparently Aperture can't see any images in its own folders if it didn't place them there.
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Kenoli Oleari1 wrote
If this is what is happening, it means Aperture can interpret the ADR data, but chooses not to. If I could get it to use that data, it could solve most of my issues.
In the Adobe Camera Raw preferences, there is a section called: 'DNG File Handling'. You can (and may already have) select the option 'Update embedded JPG previews' and use the drop down to select either Medium or Full Size. The result should be (in Bridge at least) that adjustments you make in ACR and then either click 'Done' to save to the .XMP file inside the DNG file or click 'Open' to launch and render the image in PS for further work.
The result should be an updated embedded JPEG inside the DNG file that can be used by any program that can read DNG and is set to use an embedded JPEG.
In testing on my machine a couple of years ago on Snow Leopard, the OS X included program Preview did not show the updated previews though. It only displayed the original RAW data. I assumed it either was not set to show any embedded JPEG preview, or was simply not designed to be compatible in that way. Preview uses the same digital camera RAW compatibility function of OS X that Aperture uses. So it did not surprise me to see that it was not working in Aperture at that time. This was either a later version of AP 2 or early version of AP3, but I can't remember for sure.
It was my understanding that the purpose and function of dng files is so that raw edits made by any software could be accessed cross platform through the open source dng file. If Aperture simply chooses to ignore that data, it defeats the purpose of dng.
My understanding of DNG is that it is an archive type file made of (1) a RAW conversion which holds the decoded RAW data, (2) any .XMP file that has been created by the decoding software as well as; (3) ITPC and EXIF metadata and some other info such as ICC profiles and the JPEG preview. You can also opt to include the original RAW file.
I don't know the extent to which Aperture is designed to support the DNG file though. Does it handle it like a PSD file where it retains the full file content, but only supports displaying it in a limited fashion (e.g., no transparency)? Or should it actually read the .XMP data file and render it based on that info? I don't think this is the case as the .XMP data that pertains to adjustments made by another RAW decoder doesn't seem to be compatilble with the way Aperture is handling adjustments.
You could certainly test the embedded JPEG in a DNG file by making and saving some changes to the copy of a file in Finder and then comparing the original DNG to the adjusted one using the Preview program. If the changes are not shown, then the issue (or lack of one depending on Apple's point of view) is with the OS X digital camera RAW compatibility function (which they update for new digital cameras periodically).
If Preview does show the changes, you could then import both the original and adjusted DNG into an Aperture library (even a new test library) and see if it displays the differences. If it does, then this would point to an issue with sending a file from inside Aperture to an external program and then saving back (assuming this still fails to work as you expect).
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I have just installed Aperture on my iMac for the first time. I also use Lightroom and Photoshop.
As such I want to keep the photo’s in the “Pictures” directory and not manage them within Apeture.
I have just tidied up some folders etc using finder and when I go into Lightroom I just press the “Synchronise” button and hey presto, the folders in Lightroom are aligned with the actual folders in the Pictures directory.
Can anyone tell me how I do the same in Aperture, as the changes I made to the folders/pictures are not reflected in Aperture’s directory?
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i tried all the suggestions on line. none of them are working. Any other suggestions?

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Marianne,
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Recently, iPhoto bugs make Events show up multiple times in iTunes when syncing for iPhone and iPad.
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I like that I would be able to maintain my iPhoto library data for Faces and Places in Aperture, but am concerned that when the iPhoto library is "upgraded" for Aperture, and I decide I don't really need that program, the upgraded library won't work with iPhoto anymore.
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Will I still be able to use iPhoto to access and organize my library, or will it be forever converted for use with Aperture?
They are completely different libraries.
Recently, iPhoto bugs make Events show up multiple times in iTunes when syncing for iPhone and iPad.
Fixed in the 9.1.3 update.
Will I find a better user experience with Aperture, or does it also use the single file library and suffer the same struggles iPhoto users have been seeing lately?
Like iphoto, Aperture can use the "single file library" or it can use a Referenced Library (just like iphoto can). Note that using a Referenced Library offers not a whit more in terms of features or capabilities. It's file storage plain and simple. Nothing more.
No you won't see the "same struggles iPhoto users have been seeing..." because Aperture is an entirely different allication.
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