Aperture and AVCHD Lite support

Apple implies on their Aperture 3 features site that AVCHD and AVCHD Lite is supported. See http://www.apple.com/aperture/features/#video/ . Does anyone know if Aperture supports AVCHD Lite for video transfer from a Panasonic DMC-ZS7 to my MacBook Pro?

I bought the Panasonic DMC-ZS7 today.
I was able to use Aperture3 and import still images and motion imagery from my Panasonic DMC-ZS7 into my MBP. I was also able to do this with iPhoto and iMovie.
The camera does not support AVCHD or AVCHD Lite. However, the camera has a user selectable option in the menu to shoot Motion JEPG (.MOV) HD video.
Both the still images and motion imagery look great! I can view the motion images in Aperture3, QuickTIme, or iMovie.
GPS works well with the camera, Aperture3, and iPhoto as well.

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SG
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I found a possible solution that does not (exactly) require transcoding and allows the video to be loaded into Aperture (and edited directly in iMovie):
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2411037
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http://www.clipwrap.com/
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I am a bit confused on which video format should work. I am using a Panasonic DMC-ZS3
pocket camera:
http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/support/Cameras-Camcorders/Digita l-Cameras/Lumix-Digital-Cameras/Technical-Specification/model.DMC-ZS3K.T#ts
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