Aperture and iPhoto Library

Hello,
I played with aperture @ the store. But i noticed i have to import pictures from the iPhoto library in the Aperture library. So i have the pictures twice on the disk. Isnt it possible to make Aperture use the iPhoto library?
Thank you in advance
Edgar

Well , it would be great to do someting like that. I
like aperture a lot, but then again, if i want to use
iWeb i need iPhoto again and same with the other
dedicated Apple programms. The integration is always
handy.
Is there a special reason why apple didnt add this
support for sharing librarys? Because aperture can
import the raw foto from the camera?
Well, I think it's because they really wanted the ability to do a lot of complex editing without taking up extra room on the HD if they did not need to. In iPhoto all edits are stored directly in am image file whereas in Aperture they let you make a lot more editing choices and saving each one as an image (especially a non-JPG image) would just take up a huge amount of choice.
In the future I think they'll offer an API so other programs can see thumbnails from an Aperture library as well, and also export individual images from it even if they are just versions. At the moment things will just have to be a little more manual with Aperture for a while - though I think you can alleviate that by exporting a project when you are finished editing in Aperture - take the exported set of JPG's that you then store in an iPhoto library and use like you normally would with iPhoto. That would take up more space but the good news is that keywords you assign in Aperture are automatically picked up by iPhoto on import, so you can still search in iPhoto by keyword, and then you can make use of any images in iPhoto in exactly the same way as you normally would.
If you use the new ability of iPhoto to reference files in place you could create an export directory and replace the files there on the fly from Aperture if you re-edited them. You'd have to remove them first as Aperture will not overwrite files on export.

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Cheers

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What was the question?
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For most folks using the Previews is pefectly good. And bearing in mind what Facebook will do to the shots there’s no doubt that the Previews will be perfectly adequate.
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WM

1. If I shoot RAW images (Nikon NEF) can I place edited images from Aperture into the iPhoto slideshow (which I like because of the Ken Burns Effect)? Will I have to convert them to jpeg
In the Aperture Preferences there's an option to Share the Previews with iLife and iWork applications. In iPhoto you can go File -> Show Aperture Library and a media browser will open. You can drag the images from the Media Browser to the iPhoto Window and they will be imported. Then you can make your Slideshow.
2. If I shoot jpeg images will I have any limits in editing in Aperture, such as highlight and shadow adjustments, dodge and burn adjustments, and white balance adjustments?
Yes, but not because of Aperture. A jpeg is a compressed file, data has been thrown away to make it. Therefore there's less data to manipulate so the range of effect possible is less. Think of it this way: Draft a paper of 50 pages. Rewrite it down to 10 pages. Now try and have the same range of editing on the 10 page doc as you had on the 50 page doc. Nothing to do with your word processor, just less words to process...
3. Is my understanding correct that "camera settings" can only be modified in RAW files and that RAW files can not be used in slide shows?
I don't know about Camera Settings but the Aperture manual says (pg510) that to make a high quality slideshow be sure to use high resolution previews - which rather suggests that it's the Previews and not the RAWs that are used in the show.
Regards
TD
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