Aperture and the OpenRAW initiative...

Hi,
Do any of you know where Apple is in terms of supporting the thoughts and ideas of the openRAW community?
Personally I would like to have my images and the work I do on them to survive the life-span of Aperture.
Best regards,
Kjell Are Refsvik
Norway

It is my gut feeling this OpenRAW thing will lose steam over time, and here's why. The consortium is calling for an agreed upon standard file format for RAW--something which in theory may seem like a good idea, but who would....
- develop said format
- update said format with each new camera release
and the biggie...
- who would OWN the rights to the license for said format?
There is a lot on the line for whomever gets the nod (or fails to). Of the major manufacturers out there, Nikon is committed to their own proprietary NEF format, and have gone on record in the past as stating their stance on OpenRAW.
Companies like Canon, Hasselblad, and Phase One all have significant investments in R&D with regards to RAW formats, so I don't see any of them dropping their formats.
And the whole Adobe DNG initiative is a joke. C'mon, we already have to do one RAW conversion, why make photographers jump through yet another hoop to conform to a fledgling "open" standard which is tied too closely to a single corporation?

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So the MBPR has really high resolution. (total number of pixels) In the default (or recommended) display settings (System Preferences) the UI shows text in what I would call a large, sharp mode. It uses all the extra pixels to make the text sharper, not really small. I assumed applications like Aperture would use all the pixels when it displayed photos. However, that didn't seem to be the case.
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The link to the AnandTech site provided a good (the answer) explanation.
System Preferences in Default Mode: UI scales 4X and Aperture scales photos at 1X. So, in this mode when you click on the zoom viewer button, the image is scaled 1x, so it's a 1 for 1 pixel representation.
System Preferences in More Space Mode: Text is scaled at 2X (so your text and UI elements are smaller). However, Aperture no longer scales the image at 1X. It is scaling it down to fit.
This explanation seems to fit what I saw at the Apple store.
I would have thought that the System Preferences would only affect text and UI elements, not things like photos and videos, at least when viewed at 100% zoom.
I'm not sure I understand why Apple would change the 100% viewing of images/videos. I would think that should stay constant. Especally give the fact that the System Preferences settings no longer changes the displays resolution. Now it's changing the scaling factor, which I think should only affect text and UI.
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