Aperture and Time Machine compared to iPhoto behaviour

If I'm in my iPhoto library and enter Time Machine I get to browse my entire backup of the iPhoto library in the Time Machine window - which is great. Though I don't use iPhoto anyway so there aren't any images there anyway...! I first noticed this way Time Machine works when recovering some e-mail notes I'd lost on the iPhone - very simple way of getting individual items back.
If I enter Time Machine in Aperture I'm dumped out of Aperture and cant see any old photos in Time Machine from the Aperture interface...
Does anyone know if Apple plan to make Aperture behave like iPhoto in the near future?
I like to keep things simple and have one large drive with one Aperture library holding all of my photos and a separate large Time Machine drive to hold the backup.
Thanks.
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Does anyone know if Apple plan to make Aperture behave like iPhoto in the near future?
Afraid no one outside of Apple know what - if any - plans Apple have for the future.
Regards
TD

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TM backs up what it's set to back up. You configure this in the TM settings. If your Aperture library is on a disk that TM is set to back up, it will be backed up.

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Oh please, Apple, say something about whether 10.5.2 OS X fixes the Time Machine problem with backing up Aperture while Aperture is being used! Thanks!
Ask and ye shall receive.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306853
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This was fixed around Mac OS X 10.5.3. That was quite a while ago
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The iPhoto Library is a Time Machine backup, and so cannot be used as the main library. Relaunch iPhoto with <option> key held down to choose another   library.
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Terry
I don’t understand:
Browse backups...it worked...I did see all the photos in time machine.
doesn;t seem to tally with
After trying yours suggestion I than clicked on iphoto and opened time machine and it was empty.
The way to access photos in TM is via the Browse Backups command.
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I think you may need to post this one on the Time Machine forum.
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1227
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