Aperture.app file size

How large is your Aperture.app file? (Click the app and get info). Mine is 711MB. Seems VERY high. Inspecting the "show package contents" reveals a 191.7MB "PointOfInterest.db" file. Is this all normal?

Note in Mac OS X the "application" is the binary plus a bunch of resources. Aperture has TONS of fancy templates for books, web, etc. and all are in the app itself. So standard size for the Aperture application is > 600 MB.
Your PointOfInterest.db likely has something do with Places. That doesn't seem shockingly large to me, really.
My Aperture file is just north of 800 MB FWIW.

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K,
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mscriv wrote:
So, I'm using Aperture 2 and I've got some questions about exporting from RAW to JPEG. I shoot with a Nikon D70 so original RAW files are 5-6mb in size. After doing some basic post processing when I export the pics at "full size" with picture quality of 11 out of 12 then the resulting JPEG is about half the file size of the original RAW file. For example a 5.6mb RAW becomes a 2.6mb JPEG. The resolution in pixels per inch and and the overall image size remain unchanged. Have I lost picture quality due to the exporting JPEG being smaller in file size?
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