Aperture: edit and move referenced/originals

My Aperture library was too big to handle my Macbook Air storage capacity so I moved the originals to an external disk. I have spent a few hours reading how to do it but can´t find a clear solution on how to work from now on.
I would like to know what happens with the photos if I move them to different projects or even delete them in Aperture. How do I synchronies those new changes? Also, in the next days I will be adding new photos to some of my already existent Aperture projects, how can I move the originals of the new photos to the external disk? Should I move all the originals again?
Thanks if someone can clarify those dilemmas I´m having right now.

Hi,
You're going to have to learn more in order to do what you want to do and not lose any data or risk loss through incomplete back-ups. It's beyond the scope of this forum to provide all the information you need. A _brief_ overview can be found in my concise guide to Aperture. This come up regularly, and with some sleuthing you should be able to turn up a few of the longer, excellent post on the topic of Referenced Originals.
I will respond to your questions — but my first advice is to be careful. It is not clear what you are asking, and it seems that you do not understand how Aperture works. I _strongly_ suggest mastering this while using a small test Library, before using any of it on data that is important.
If you put the last Image attached to a Referenced Original in the Aperture Trash, and empty the Aperture Trash, you should get a dialog asking you if you want to move the Referenced Original to the System Trash. Do you not get that dialog?
If you say "Yes", the Referenced Original file should be put in the System Trash.
Note that OS X keeps individual Trashes for each drive (even though it shows the collected contents of every drive's trash).
When you import files, you have the option of storing the files in the Aperture Library package, or wherever you specify. You can import files and leave them where they are, or you can import them and relocate them (to, e.g., your Originals drive), or you can import them and have them stored in the Library package.
If your Originals are managed ("managed" means "stored inside the Library package"), whenever you back-up your Library the Image's Originals are backed up.
If you Originals are referenced ("referenced" means "stored outside the Library package"), you are responsible for backing them up _in addition to_ backing up your Library.
An extra note: Aperture was designed to work with each "shoot" imported as a "Project". (The misnaming of the container "Project" is, imho, a spectacular and costly mistake.) Unless you have good reason to do otherwise, you will find your workflow smoother if you stick to "One Project for every shoot". Use Albums for longitudinal collections of Images.

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Thanks for your response. I have been trying this technique but it doesn't seem to work either. I immediately converted the footage from MP4 to .mov. I then imported the .mov file into final cut express for editing. Once the sequence was ready i exported as a .mov file and then used 'wondershare video convertor' to convert from .mov to WMV. This doesn't seem to solve the problem. In this case i can get the audio but not the visual....
I have taken your advice and downloaded 'flip4mac'. I have just currently got the free trial as i want to know if it works before paying. It seems to open up in quicktime player but wont allow me to export file and convert to wmv....
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"Can't move referenced files to trash"

I was clearing my rejects from a project- 1400 of them! They were all referenced. At the end, I got an error message saying Aperture can't move referenced files to trash because I don't have access to the trash on that volume.
It removed them from the library but left the images on the drive- 1400 of them! (Seems like it would have let me know BEFORE removing them from the library!)
Anyway, I isolated them on the drive by relocating the masters that remain in the library which left the files from the removed images in place. It would have been ugly if I were deleting rejects library wide instead of within a single project.
The permissions in the Get Info window were fine, and the disk is formatted properly so I verified and repaired the disk in Disk Utility. No problems were found, but this resolved the issue of the volume not having access to the trash.
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It doesn't sound like it's an issue with the files themselves, but rather with the trash.
I haven't seen it, but I can see how that could occur. Each volume tends to have its own Trash folder. It's hidden, typically called .Trashes and at the root of the hard drive. I have had Trash-related issues outside of Aperture in the past (likely of my own doing). The issue with problems like these it it's nigh impossible to establish cause and effect… you could do something and not notice the problem for days or even weeks, in a completely un-related way.
I doubt that "Repair Permissions" is responsible for the fix, unless the files were on your boot volume. RP has no effect outside of a boot volume.

HT2240 CAN I EDIT AND TAKE PIECES OF THE VIDEO OUT OF THE VIDEO WITH QUICKTIME?

I want to edit a video and take out portions I do not want there for a video post. How do I edit out (trim) out bits I do not want and then save the new video?

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Open the file you wish to edit and move the playhead (you can slide it and use the right/left arrow keys to adjust) to the first frame of the video you want to remove.
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Adjust the playhead to the last frame you wish to edit and use the letter o key to set an "out point". You'll see another marker and the edit area is highlighted in the timeline. This is known as a "Selection".
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Can I import edited photos (and their raw originals) from Aperture in groups, like 5-star images from a project?

I have 30,000 images in Aperture and it keeps crashing. I've run out of memory on my MacBook Pro running 10.8.6 and I want to switch over to Lightroom for all new photos and slowly migrate my best ones over to LR as well. I've edited many of my best shots already, probably 6000 or more, so I need to feel confident that cropping, editing, rating, and metadata will all migrate successfully.
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Also, can I load the Lightroom itself onto an external hard drive and keep all my images off my laptop? If I edit them, do the edits remain on my laptop regardless of where the originals reside. I think that's the issue that I'm running into with Aperture: edits stay on my laptop even though originals are on an external HD.
Your photos can be on any hard disk, internal or external or network. If they are stored on an external hard disk, then when you import them into Lightroom, you select the ADD option and the photo will remain on your external hard disk. The edits are stored in your Lightroom catalog (as opposed to "remain on my laptop"). Once you import photos into Lightroom, you no longer want to manage them (move, copy, delete) using your operating system. You do all photo management in Lightroom.
If you transfer the photos properly, your edits, cropping, metadata, etc. will transfer to Lightroom, but I will leave the details to some expert on Aperture.
If I could offer some advice, I don't think you want to just transfer SOME of your photos to Lightroom. In my opinion, you want ALL of your photos managed by Lightroom, and not some in application 1 and some in application 2. This makes your life much easier when trying to find your photos, you don't have to think "Is this photo in Lightroom or is this in Aperture?" (Note: this doesn't mean you have to import all the photos from Aperture into Lightroom in one HUGE operation; you can certainly do the importing in manageable sized groups)

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All,
After using Aperture now for several days, and reading many different forum topics, in particular this one which speaks of desired enhancements to Aperture:
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I think it is a fair generalization to say that the vast majority of serious digital photographers are using Photoshop (or some other image editing app, but I'm just going to refer to Photoshop for convenience) for post-processing of some kind. In using Aperture, and figuring out how to fit it into workflow, we've got this situation of how to move from organization and image library management to the full gamut of image adjusting functionality (photoshop) and back again to library management. The need to use photoshop then exposes the issue of how files are stored on the filesystem, etc. Stay with me here...
I have found myself thinking, and it is pretty clearly demonstrated in the forum topic mentioned above where folks are making suggestions for improvements to Aperture, that there's this barrel people are over in knowing whether Photoshop and Aperture should live in the workflow together, or whether Aperture should (or is intended to) replace Photoshop in the workflow. This got me to thinking about the fundamental question -- what is the intent, i.e. the vision for Aperture? Is it meant to replace Photoshop, or restated, is Aperture meant to be the app in which all image adjustments are to be made, OR is Aperture meant to just ease workflow, and is it intended not to be the primary app for image adjustments, but rather integrate with the primary image adjustment app?
The reason I bring this up is that the answer to this question makes all the difference in what enhancement requests and what people should expect from Aperture now, and in future versions. If Aperture is the primary place for image adjustment, then its obvious that there are some very significant additions that need to take place to Aperture, and likewise, the issue of putting images on the filesystem becomes much less important. However, if Aperture is a workflow-easer, then such image adjustment improvements are minimally important if at all, and filesystem / Photoshop / PSD file integration becomes paramount.
I know what Aperture does, what features it provides, etc. But I can't help but realize that its not really that clear (or I just don't understand yet) what the full scope of Aperture now and in the future is intended to be, and the forum topics are pretty decent documentation of the fact that the user base at this point is fairly cloudy on that too.
I can't help thinking that in the midst of the Apple pro line of tools, where we have tools that edit: video, audio, DVD creation, text effects, and now digital photography workflow, that there's one glaring hole: static image editing, i.e. a direct Photoshop competitor. I went through the Aperture video demos before Aperture shipped, and watched these photo pros talk incessantly about how "now there's an app that addresses how I work -- Aperture". That's great, but Apple has to know the role that Photoshop plays in present photography workflow -- for those pros too. So I'm sitting here thinking to myself, why would Apple roll out such a product with some clear workflow hurdles to common Photoshop usage.
Ok, here's the punchline: does anyone else here have a sneaking suspicion that Apple is not to far off from releasing their own image editing application that's a direct Photoshop competitor? I mean come on, Final Cut Pro, Motion, Sountrack, and by extension of the CEO to Pixar, Renderman. How can you not have a static image adjustment application entering the scene at some point?
I'm curious what others think. I'm just trying to make sense of how to fit the neat stuff I see in Aperture into a workflow that doesn't play very nicely with Aperture at some points (because I'm using Photoshop).
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we'll need noise reduction, greater sharpening
capability, etc., etc., and then when we have all
those features, surely we'll need masking and select
capability to perform those adjustments selectively,
etc. Where does it end?
Actually that could be a good cut-off point - add a few more/better 'global' adjustments but leave all mask, selection and layer based tasks to external editors. Personally, I used to swear by curves, but haven't really touched them in PS for a year since shooting more RAW and learning how to use the shadow/highlight adjustment properly. Sometimes for overall colour for JPEGs, but that bit can be done just as well in levels.
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Type of photography - stitched panoramas as a professional, plus general snapshots/nature/landscape as hobby. Single user with no network storage.
Currently I use a very organised folder structure in the Finder, along with aliases in DragThing docks for easy access to final stitched files, all with their own unique ID. RAW conversions are done in ACR/PSCS2, or Bibble if I'm in a hurry on the laptop. About 40% of the panos are shot in RAW, 40% are bracketed JPEG and the remaining 20% are 'single' JPEG. The panoramas go through quite a lot of post-processing in PS using a whole series of actions and AppleScripts.
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2a) If it is a people pano there will be quite a lot of duplicate shots for each panohead position - make a stack for each position and choose picks - this bit will speed things up enormously by itself. Reorder stacks to fit correct order of images going around the scene.
3) Export to TIFF (sometimes JPEG) and stitch using PTMac (sometimes Realviz Stitcher). Oh, and any people who think Aperture is limited, buggy and bad value should go and look at Stitcher - it costs the same, has a far more limited feature set, is on version 5 and by comparison makes Aperture look bug-free.
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