Aperture editing

When using an external editor in aperture, it converts the image to .tiff. Is there an easy way to convert these back to .jpg other than exporting them as .jpg and reimporting them as .jpg. If I do this will I lose any of the edited image. What is best , .tiff or .jpg?

When using an external editor in aperture, it converts the image to .tiff.
It will convert the image to "TIFF" or "PSD", depending on your settings in "Aperture > Preferences > Advanced" for "External Editor File Format".
JPEG is no option for the external editor, because the conversion to JPEG is lossy. This is to ensure, that RAW files are converted to the best possible lossless format for editing. For JPEGS it is a bit wasteful because the large file size for the new original files.
if you export your image as a high quality JPEG, pass it to the external editor and reimport it yourself, and reimport it yourself, you will not notice much difference in quality, if you export your jpeg as "Original" and save it again with a high quality. But the reimported image will be treated by Aperture as a new image and not as a version of the original image.
One way to get an original JPEG image passed to the external editor as a JPEG and not as aTIFF or PSD, but to keep it linked to the old original would be to open the Aperture library in iPhoto and to call the external editor from iPhoto (In aperture use File > Open library in iPhoto). iPhoto will send a JPEG to the editor as a JPEG. It will be returned as the edited version of the same image, not with a new quasi master. This requires, that you have matching versions of Aperture and iPhoto. (see. Aperture 3.3: Using a unified photo library with iPhoto and Aperture)
For example: After sending a JPE to Photoshop Elements from iPhoto 9.5.1: The original of the edited version is still a JPEG image .

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Aperture - Edit with External Editor - Photoshop

Hi,
I recently made my first attempt via Aperture to "Edit with External Editor" and in my case I have the preferences set to export to Photoshop CS4 Extended. The External Editor File Format (in preferences) selected is TIFF and as advised by Apple's Help menu this is set at 16-bit. The External Editor Color Spaces is set to Adobe-RGB (1998).
I selected an image with some barrel distortion, hit the export button, and Aperture sent the new master to Photoshop. I did my fixing and saved. This automatically sends the updated file to Aperture. This is very handy and practical but I was shocked to see the size of the new and fixed file. The original file was a JPEG at 4MB and the new fixed file was a colossal 200+ MB file. I ended up throwing away the new file - too large.
I am just wondering if this is normal? This is my first time using the Edit with External Editor in Aperture and I am also quite clueless about using Photoshop efficiently and properly. Could I have done something differently and received the new and fixed file at a smaller size?
Thanks for your advice and help.
Chau

Chau wrote:
I am just wondering if this is normal? This is my first time using the Edit with External Editor in Aperture and I am also quite clueless about using Photoshop efficiently and properly. Could I have done something differently and received the new and fixed file at a smaller size?
This is normal.
TIFF files get rather large and the 200 MB sounds about right. If I send a 1.63 MB JPEG at the same settings in PS CS5, I get a 134 MB TIFF after applying the Lens Correction filter and saving.
If I send the same file as a TIFF 8-bit in Adobe-RGB (1998), I get back a 54.73 MB file.
You could therefore send as an 8-bit TIFF to reduce the size. Additionally, the PSD format tends to return a slightly smaller file size (51.xx MB in the case here).
A JPEG file is actually only an 8-bit file, so it isn't really necessary to go to 16-bit, but many users like to protect against further degradation of the JPEG when editing externally (especially from posterization where smooth gradients - such as a sky - start to break down into visible steps in the color transition).
I personally send as TIFF 8-bit in the sRGB color space and if the image shows degradation, then I might change to the TIFF 16-bit (or simply not use that image).

Why aren't Aperture edits reflected on the iPad?

When I update a photo in Aperture, why won't the changes show up on the iPad? I removed red eye from one image and cropped another. Despite multiple syncs, updating previews, etc., the iPad still shows the unedited versions and nothing I do seems to change this. Other changes to my library (such as adding or deleting photos, updating albums, etc.) are reflected on the iPad, but not adjustments to a photo once the image is on the iPad.

This continues to be frustrating. I've tried forcing Aperture to regenerate previews on this project, which took awhile (689 photos), then went through the sync process again. I also created an album with just the two photos that I had edited (one cropped, one red eye removal), reasoning that it would be a brand new preview for those.
When I synced again, watching the process in iTunes I saw that it recreated all the previews for that project in the iPod cache. But when I opened the photos app on the iPod, I saw the original, unedited photos again! Uncropped, and with red eye (in both albums).
I'm reluctant to delete the entire ipod photo cache; it contains 5,726 items and would probably take forever in Aperture and forever again to transfer all those photos to the iPad (I have the quality setting bumped up for the previews). Besides, it seems that what I already did deleted and recreated the cache items for the photos in question. I've looked in vain for an Aperture preferences setting that would tell it to use the versions rather than the masters, but there doesn't seem to be any such option. Does Aperture always default to the masters only when it generates previews?
I did try PhotoSync, and it's not bad. However, it seems more geared toward sending photos TO your computer rather than the other way around. I did download the Mac client app, too, and sent some photos to my iPad, including the ones I was working with. It got the right ones, something that Aperture/iTunes can't seem to do. Unfortunately, it puts all the photos sent into its own database, rather than the iPad Photo app (though when I set it up I was able to have it include all the Aperture items initially). So if I used that, I'd end up having photos in two places. I'd just like to be able to have them in one place on the iPad.
I guess I'll try the other suggestion, to export them and reimport them.

Images from Aperture edited in CC2014 returning to Aperture or exported with fogged appearance. suggestions?

New glitch just showing up after updating to CC2014. Images opened in PS appear great. When returned with a SAVE to Aperture they appear fogged or as though an excessive shadow control has been applied. Suggestions?

If the images appear as intended in Photoshop then the problem is likely with Aperture and I suspect very few of the regulars on this Forum are concerned with that application.
Especially as it is being discontinued …
What are the Edit > Color Settings anyway?
What file format do you save and do you embed the Color Profile?

Aperture + Editing Software

I am looking for some editing software and am not sure what to get as I would like it to sync/work well with Aperture 3.
Do I get pixelmator or go for photoshop elements?
If there are any other options please let me know
Many thanks

Software are tools, or collections of tools. The tools are crafted by skilled toolmakers to allow the user to perform specific tasks.
Apple's Aperture is entirely analogous to Adobe's Lightroom. It seems unlikely that with your current tools and tasks you haven't encountered and learned what Lightroom is and does. Aperture is and does the same. Each is excellent at what it does.
Aperture and Lightroom are digital darkrooms for developing, organizing, storing, and preparing for publication digital photographs. It sounds as though you have some needs which Aperture will meet.
It is worth knowing what Aperture is not. It is not a graphics editing program. Aperture is not a data-creation program -- it is a data-modification program. The data are your photographs. Aperture excels at allowing the user to develop digital negatives. It does not allow the user to create and add text, rectangles, digital bangles, and so forth. Every operation is done on a photograph.
Aperture is no faster than similar programs at executing commands. It can save the user a lot of time in allowing for the organization and batch execution of operations. The execution of even a few changes on hundreds of images will always push current systems to their max.
Your question remains non-specific. These user-to-user forums are great for finding answers to specific question, and not so great for gathering general information. Read about Aperture on Apple's site, read several of the many easily available reviews of version 3, and also download the trial version (it's free) and try it out. Aperture is a very large, very powerful, complex program with a long (but not steep) learning curve. Sixty minutes spent reading and using will either answer your question, or allow you to ask specific questions to which you can get useful answers.
Good luck.
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After importing my iPhoto images to Aperture, edited RAW files render strangely

Hi,
Yesterday I imported my iPhoto 09 library to Aperture 3. I have a problem with my RAW files (from a Sony Alpha 55). I have done some edits to these photos in iPhoto 9 and these edits did carry over to Aperture. Unfortunately the resulting image looks absolutely overly contrasted, I can fix most of it by turning down the Black Clipping, which is set to about 25% of the slider. I don't remember adding black clipping in iPhoto though.
Maybe someone here knows about this problem?
Jonathan

oh, and it's iPhoto '11 not 09, sorry about that.

Aperture: edit and move referenced/originals

My Aperture library was too big to handle my Macbook Air storage capacity so I moved the originals to an external disk. I have spent a few hours reading how to do it but can´t find a clear solution on how to work from now on.
I would like to know what happens with the photos if I move them to different projects or even delete them in Aperture. How do I synchronies those new changes? Also, in the next days I will be adding new photos to some of my already existent Aperture projects, how can I move the originals of the new photos to the external disk? Should I move all the originals again?
Thanks if someone can clarify those dilemmas I´m having right now.

Hi,
You're going to have to learn more in order to do what you want to do and not lose any data or risk loss through incomplete back-ups. It's beyond the scope of this forum to provide all the information you need. A _brief_ overview can be found in my concise guide to Aperture. This come up regularly, and with some sleuthing you should be able to turn up a few of the longer, excellent post on the topic of Referenced Originals.
I will respond to your questions — but my first advice is to be careful. It is not clear what you are asking, and it seems that you do not understand how Aperture works. I _strongly_ suggest mastering this while using a small test Library, before using any of it on data that is important.
If you put the last Image attached to a Referenced Original in the Aperture Trash, and empty the Aperture Trash, you should get a dialog asking you if you want to move the Referenced Original to the System Trash. Do you not get that dialog?
If you say "Yes", the Referenced Original file should be put in the System Trash.
Note that OS X keeps individual Trashes for each drive (even though it shows the collected contents of every drive's trash).
When you import files, you have the option of storing the files in the Aperture Library package, or wherever you specify. You can import files and leave them where they are, or you can import them and relocate them (to, e.g., your Originals drive), or you can import them and have them stored in the Library package.
If your Originals are managed ("managed" means "stored inside the Library package"), whenever you back-up your Library the Image's Originals are backed up.
If you Originals are referenced ("referenced" means "stored outside the Library package"), you are responsible for backing them up _in addition to_ backing up your Library.
An extra note: Aperture was designed to work with each "shoot" imported as a "Project". (The misnaming of the container "Project" is, imho, a spectacular and costly mistake.) Unless you have good reason to do otherwise, you will find your workflow smoother if you stick to "One Project for every shoot". Use Albums for longitudinal collections of Images.

Why can't I create a new version of a photo edited in an external application, without Aperture making a new copy of the newly created Tiff?

When Aperture creates a new version from a RAW file, no new master file is created. This makes total sense and I understand why.
When I edit a photo in an external editor (Photoshop CS6) from within Aperture, Aperture creates a Tiff file to edit in Photoshop and saves it along with the RAW original once I have finished editing it in Photoshop. I understand why this is necessary too. So far so good.
But if I then ask Aperture to create a new version from the newly created image edited via Photoshop, it creates another new Tiff. I can't see why this is necessary. Aperture should be able to apply further new Aperture edits to the newly created Tiff in the same way that it creates new versions from a RAW file without duplicating the master - by remembering any new 'recipe' changes applied to the Tiff. It only needs to remember the edits made as the Tiff already now exists.
Can I stop it creating repeat Tiff files each time I create a new version from the Photoshoped photos?
Thanks in anticipation.

Hello Kirby,
I clicked on the 'Show in Finder' and it revealed a new file called IMG_0961 (1) which goes with the original IMG_0961.CR2 and the edited new tiff created for Photoshop which was called IMG_0961.tiff
I noticed also that a separate version I had previously created using Canon's DPP stand alone software and titled by me IMG_0961 (DPP).TIF (same thing but from a different original) does not form a new master file when I create a new version of that one. I've tried this with a few images but when the original is edited in Photoshop via Aperture a second version of the Tiff is created for the 1st version of the image when I create a new version fo it.

How can I import an Aperture Catalog into Lightroom and retain the RAW file as well as the files with the edits?

I have several catalogs in Aperture that I would like to import to Lightroom 5 and I want to retain the original RAW files as well as the files with the edits. How can I do this?

Well, you can bring in the raw file (without edits), and you can bring in a rendered RGB file (e.g. jpeg or tiff) with edits baked in, but what you CAN'T do is bring in a raw file, with the non-destructive Aperture edits, and have Lr translate those Aperture edits into Lightroom edits.
Put another way: no raw converter/editor can understand the edits of any other raw converter/editor. So, you have to work with a rendered version, and/or re-edit from scratch in a new raw converter/editor.
PS - it would be feasible to write a rough translator which approximated raw edits in one world into edits in another, but such does not exist yet for Aperture -> Lightroom, that I know of.

Is there a way to save Aperture RAW edits (previews) as .tif files?

In iPhoto Preferences/Advanced, it is possible to choose to save RAW edits as .tif files. The resulting files are then stored in the Previews folder inside the iPhoto Library. In Aperture, edits of RAW files are stored in the Previews folder as .jpg files. I am aware that I can export the edited versions as .tif files outside of the Aperture Library. Is there a way to do it inside the Aperture Library, just the way iPhoto does??

Probably collecting everything on an artboard into a new layer might give you the option to use a script to save layers to files.
But this is a feature request but no as of yet has suggested a way that this might work, at least I do not think so.

Aperture 3 edits are not applied when opening in Photoshop CS5.

I have Photoshop CS5 selected as external editor. I apply some edits in Aperture 3 and then open in Photoshop cs5 to do heavier work, but aperture 3 edits are not applied. I get a new image from Master. How do I get the edited image to open in Photoshop CS5? I would rather do the cropping and simpler edits in Aperture, then if needed open the edited file into CS5. I can open the file, but it is missing all of my edits. I have basically a raw master file that I have to start with, but don't have the advantage of the raw file.

I'm right clicking on the photo and selecting -> edit with Edit with Adobe Photoshop CS5. The photo opens in Adobe, but it doesn't have any of the Aperture edits applied to it. I would have to start from scratch doing these in photoshop. I want to be able to do the Raw adjustments in Aperture and then open into Photoshop.
To test I applied a crop in Aperture and then opened that file in Photoshop. The full size image opens in Photoshop.

Can I import edited photos (and their raw originals) from Aperture in groups, like 5-star images from a project?

I have 30,000 images in Aperture and it keeps crashing. I've run out of memory on my MacBook Pro running 10.8.6 and I want to switch over to Lightroom for all new photos and slowly migrate my best ones over to LR as well. I've edited many of my best shots already, probably 6000 or more, so I need to feel confident that cropping, editing, rating, and metadata will all migrate successfully.
Also, can I load the Lightroom itself onto an external hard drive and keep all my images off my laptop? If I edit them, do the edits remain on my laptop regardless of where the originals reside. I think that's the issue that I'm running into with Aperture: edits stay on my laptop even though originals are on an external HD.
Thanks for your feedback on both of these matters.
Todd Telford
Cotati, CA

Also, can I load the Lightroom itself onto an external hard drive and keep all my images off my laptop? If I edit them, do the edits remain on my laptop regardless of where the originals reside. I think that's the issue that I'm running into with Aperture: edits stay on my laptop even though originals are on an external HD.
Your photos can be on any hard disk, internal or external or network. If they are stored on an external hard disk, then when you import them into Lightroom, you select the ADD option and the photo will remain on your external hard disk. The edits are stored in your Lightroom catalog (as opposed to "remain on my laptop"). Once you import photos into Lightroom, you no longer want to manage them (move, copy, delete) using your operating system. You do all photo management in Lightroom.
If you transfer the photos properly, your edits, cropping, metadata, etc. will transfer to Lightroom, but I will leave the details to some expert on Aperture.
If I could offer some advice, I don't think you want to just transfer SOME of your photos to Lightroom. In my opinion, you want ALL of your photos managed by Lightroom, and not some in application 1 and some in application 2. This makes your life much easier when trying to find your photos, you don't have to think "Is this photo in Lightroom or is this in Aperture?" (Note: this doesn't mean you have to import all the photos from Aperture into Lightroom in one HUGE operation; you can certainly do the importing in manageable sized groups)

Iphoto import of Original and Edited Iphoto versions from Aperture

I am using Aperture to improve some of my IPhoto 2008 edited pics. I'm keeping my Iphoto pics in their current location and importing selected ones to Aperture that I want to edit further. Following import of an IPhoto album to Aperture I could see both 'IPhoto Original', and 'IPhoto Edited' versions (great!). For some pics I have further edited the 'original' and for others I've further edited the 'IPhoto edited' version. For a few I've used Aperture to further edit/improve BOTH versions.
I imported the photos back into Iphoto but I can't see both the 'edited' and 'original' in the browser, I can see and import only the 'IPhoto edited' version - hence not seeing in iPhoto some pics I have edited and want to use.
What's the best way to get the other (ie both) versions into IPhoto? I want to create a book in Iphoto because I have additional Iphoto pics to include that don't need an Aperture edit. A key consideration is not eating up disk space.
Thank you BW

BW -- just wanted to underscore nathan's excellent but (likely) unwelcome and perhaps easily ignored advice:
Don't use both applications for storing your pictures or for photo editing.
What you want to do -- use iPhoto (a superb program, imho) for image management of most image editing, and then export to Aperture for just a few images -- is a good idea on the face of it but difficult to implement and practically impossible to maintain.
Examine your options, take into proper account your experience and your needs, and choose one or the other ^1^. Images which need additional work which you can't accomplish in iPhoto should be edited using an external editor (such as PSCS5 or PSE or others).
1. The programs (Aperture and iPhoto) are extremely different in concept and depth. Search the forum for some of those differences. Imho, Aperture takes 50x as long to learn as iPhoto. The curve is not steep, but it is long. Aperture is much more powerful than iPhoto.
PS: As soon as you can, get the largest fast internal drive you can afford. And make multiple back-ups of your Libraries. If you know you can always restore a Library, deleting one isn't terrifying.
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Complaints about Places/Locations in Aperture 3.5

I have found several problems/bugs with Places in 3.5
According to the manual when I click on "Move Pins" in the Places view, pin heads of the places should change to purple. That does not happen.
However, it is possible to move a pin after clicking on "Move Pins". But, it seems that you have to click on the exact single pixel somewhere in the pin. Clicking anywhere in the pin head has never worked for me at all. I have only succeeded after trying several times (usually about 3-5 or even more) to click very precisely in the middle of the pin.
When I have succeded in moving a pin the Place does correctly show as moved to its new location in the Places view, and the GPS info (latitude and logitude) of photos assigned to that Place get correctly changed. However, in "Manage My Places" the Place still shows up as its old location.
When working with a location outside the USA where Apple Maps resolution is often much lower than that within the USA, clicking on a pin in Places view and then clicking on the right arrow of the pin head to select photos assigned to that pin zooms the view to the highest resolution. But, when that res. is higher than the resolution of the map available for that location all you get is an ugly gray scale grid pattern. After that you have to manually zoom out several levels to see the map details.

The Adjustment Inspector shows all current adjustments to the Primary Selection (the Image selected, of only one, or the one with the heavier border when more than one Image is selected). Select an Image you have adjusted (in Aperture, "edits" are called "adjustments"; there is a reason for this, not worth going into here) which does show the adjustments in the Viewer (the Browser shows a grid or list of Images in the selected container(s); the Viewer shows the selected Image(s)). What does the Adjustment Inspector show? Are the Adjustment Bricks checked? Are the parameters changed shown within the Bricks?

Aperture adjustments don't sync to iphone or ipad

Any adjustments - color, crop, etc - made to previously synced albums or projects don't update on the iPhone or iPad. Why would iTunes intentionally sync just the master and never versions, especially while not making it an option? When streamed, like to Apple TV, iTunes sends the latest version.
All software on all devices is the most current version/update.
This issue has been discussed previously, the latest I could find is here:
Why aren't Aperture edits reflected on the iPad?
I've tried all the suggestions around updating previews, etc with no success. Deleting the iPod cache each time is kinda silly. Any thoughts or suggestions would be very helpful! I find this to be a very frustrating little feature that Apple has thrown in
I think I'll try syncing with iPhoto, as it's a shared library now. Perhaps that will solve (kind of) the problem.
Thanks
Peter

Hey Canyonlight,
If you have iTunes Match then iTunes does not sync with your iOS devices. All syncing is done directly to iTunes Match, which does not see your playlists. See this article for an explanation -
iTunes 12 for Mac: Syncing overview
Thanks for using Apple Support Communities.
Be well,
Brett L

Aperture editing

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