Aperture export to photoshop explanation

Hi
I need to fully understand the Aperture to Photoshop round trip.
I have Aperture 3 and Photoshop CS5
My external editor is PS.
I understand and have used the normal convention of exporting my Aperture image to Photoshop editing it then saving and having it appear back in AP3 as an additional image with the PS edits.
However if I get half way through an edit in PS and want to save it to work on later, what method do I use. I tried using "save as" in PS but it didn't re manifest it self back in to AP3.
Can someone explain exactly how the PS roundtrip works.
Is it that once I finished in PS I MUST use the "save" command only for it to appear with edits in AP3. Then when I want to do more edits in PS via AP3 do I go into AP3 select the new image and export again into PS to finish the edits ?
Does it keep the layers ?
I seem to remember it does keep the layers, but if I re edit using AP3 it flattens it.. Is this correct ?
Thanks

You can reopen the image by clicking to Edit it in PS, or you can open Photoshop, click on Recent, and open that way, if you have not overwritten the Recent entries.
Layers can be retained in the A3 Library, but only so long as no other operations, such as using a plugin on the same image, or some edits within A3 have been done subsequently. A number of things in Aperture can result in flattening the image in the Library.
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