Aperture File Size vs iPhoto

Hi folks, this issue has probably been handled before
but I searched and couldn't find it in the first few
pages.
I import all my pictures with iPhoto. Then when I
export the pictures I wanna fix and import them into
Aperture. The problem is, I noticed that a file that
is 1.8mb in iPhoto ends up as about double the size
in Aperture. Is there any reason for this?
And what I mean is, when I choose "export version"
the file coming out of Aperture is about twice as
big.
Any help would be appreciated.
Can anyone give me advice or point me in the right direction? I shoot RAW and the files are approx 15mb- when I export them to jpeg original size they are only about 2mb. I am worried as I am told I need at least 4-5 mb for a quality 8X10 print?
Any ideas on how to make the mb size (jpeg) larger? I have the quality at 12, the dpi at 300 and the setting for jpeg original size.
Thanks so much,

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Is it possible to bulk or batch reduce file size within iPhoto - i.e. without having to export then re-import the pics THEN delete the originals?
For example - if I have shot a bunch of pics at high res which I decide or worth keeping as small (low KB) jpegs and not 3MB camera originals.
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Russell:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. Depends on what you mean by resize. Do you want to reduce the pixel dimensions, say from 2272 1704 to 800 x 600 keeping the same ratio of dimensions, and, thus, reduce the file size? Or do you want to keep the original pixel dimensions and reduce the file size, which requires a reduction in quality thru greater compression?

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I needed to free up disc space (I have over 6000 photos stored in iphoto). I couldn't find a solution in this forum, but have hit on a way that works.
1. Move photos to a CD to preserve original file size. 2. Export photos at reduced file size to a folder on the desk top. 3. Trash original photos. 4. Import reduced size photos. 5. Trash folder.
Reduced size photos are fine for viewing and 4x6 prints. Larger prints can be made from the CD.
Perhaps there's an easier way, but this works.

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The bug described below was found as a result of testing the relative print sharpness of the Aperture print routines. I printed an adjusted Canon 5D image with Aperture's print routine to a 4X6, 300ppi print output, then took the same image through P'shop, (as a PSD) downsized the file to the same dimensions and converted it to 8-bit color depth. Then printed the returned file through Aperture.
To my surprise when I was performing this comparison, I found that the file size shown in the metadata panel of the test file was not reduced, even though I had significantly downsized the file (from an "outbound" 72.2GB to an "inbound" file of slightly less than 7GB. So I repeated the round trip to P'shop, using the OSX Inspector to examine the relevant .approject size at three points in the workflow:
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2) After the PSD version had been created by Aperture; and
3) After re-sizing the file in P'Shop and saving it back to Aperture.
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1) The size of the base (pre-export) .approject increased by approximately 72.2GB when it created the 16-bit PSD file for export to P'shop - exactly what the metadata showed and what I expected for a 5D file at 16-bit color depth.
2) When the resized file was returned from P'shop, the base .approject file was now only 7.5GB larger, indicating the size of the returned file was in fact reduced by the downsizing.
So the problem is not creation of an abnormally large Aperture PSD file. The metadata file size is simply not updated when the downsized file is returned from P'shop.
I submitted a bug report to Apple on this, but I'm not sure what priority it will get. So this is an FYI in case others have observed a similar phenomenon and been concerned about it.
BTW: The file downsized via the P'Shop round trip was noticeably sharper on printing (from Aperture) than the print produced directly out of Aperture. So it appears the print output sharpening routines in Aperture still need considerable improvement. That's the improvement I'd rather have Apple spending their time on than an anoying but not fatal bug in file size metadata.
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I was trying to imagine how you were managing taking more than a few photographs if your files were increasing the space take by 72GB a pop.
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If you have no other image editing software, you can try this on PREVIEW.
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Empty the system trash. If that doesn't help:
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I've been archiving Aperture to a Time Capsule using Aperture's vault backup. I noticed that on the Time Capsule the file size it 67GB and the file size on my Mac is 57GB. Could some explain why the vault size is larger than the file size on my Mac?
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Am i able to adjust the file size with iPhoto?

or the pixel size?

You can change the file size by exporting (and reimporting) with smaller pixel dimensions. You could also change the preference so a double click opens in an external editing program such as Graphic-Converter or Photoshop with which you can reduce file size.
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My aperture library and iphoto library have the same photos in them. Photos seem to be the same size and quality (I imported all photos from aperture into iPhoto). iPhoto's library is 20GB, Aperture is nearly 60. I'm guessing that while Aperture might be a hair bigger because of the previews (default settings there), 3x the size means something is wrong.
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While 60GB isn't the end of the world, I'm trying to move my photos to my laptop. And between photos and music, I'm really pushing my hard drive's capacity. That 40GB difference is going to mean I'll use iPhoto (09) vs Aperture (2), and I'm still partial to Aperture.
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Thanks everyone for their help. Redoing the previews helped. I think I had the previews set to "do not limit" on my dekstop and had just pulled the aperture library to my laptop. Redoing those previews took 20GB off my library size.
I see where you're coming from with the referenced images, but for now, it just keeps things simpler for my to keep it all managed. It's a brilliant solution though, if I need to in the future I might go that route. Especially when you think about possibilities with having the referenced images on Time Capsule or something. I don't take that many photos, and I upgrade my computer every year or two. I'm hoping the laptop hard drive space will expand gradually with my photo and music library, and by the time I have to worry about it, there will be another solution.
As far as how I went from Aperture to iPhoto (Ernie), I did (from iPhoto) file > show aperture library > then pulled them all in. I know there are issues with this though, you might check the iPhoto forum if you have trouble, there are work-arounds I believe.

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Terence,
When I originally imported iPhoto into Aperture I selected the leave in original location. If I want to make Aperture stand alone now, all I have to do is consolidate the masters correct? After, which I could delete the iPhoto library, or should I just leave things as they are and not worry that the iPhoto library holds the masters? Seems like this is just a user preference as I have not seen anything state one way is better than the other.
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Welcome to the Apple Discussions. When a raw file is imported iPhoto creates a jpg version so if you're looking at that and comparing to the size of the raw file, yes it will be smaller.
If you edit a photo the resulting file will be slightly smaller since there will be one level of jpeg compression added to the file. All subsequent edits will not cause any more compression because the edit instructions are saved in the database file and applied to the file for viewing, printing and exporting. That's why iPhoto calls it nondestructive editing.
If the photo is portrait oriented and comes from a camera which has the auto-rotate feature iPhoto will create a rotated version and that will contain some jpeg compression.
Dragging the photo to the desktop will bring the edited version which will be smaller. To get the original file export using the Format=Original setting as Larry has already pointed out.
If you're worried about image quality unless you will be printing a very large photo you'll be hard pressed to see any degradation in the image.
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto (iPhoto.Library for iPhoto 5 and earlier versions) database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger or later), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. There are versions that are compatible with iPhoto 5, 6, 7 and 8 libraries and Tiger and Leopard. Just put the application in the Dock and click on it whenever you want to backup the dB file. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.
NOTE: iPhoto 8's new option in it's rebuild library window, "Rebuild the iPhoto Library Database from automatic backup" may make this tip obsolete. We'll know when users have occasion to use it and see if that's the case.

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do you have previews turned on ???
what size and res of previews ???
it is possible but a 300% increase is not likely ...
what is telling you 120GB ???
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