Aperture File Size

Hello,
I've been archiving Aperture to a Time Capsule using Aperture's vault backup. I noticed that on the Time Capsule the file size it 67GB and the file size on my Mac is 57GB. Could some explain why the vault size is larger than the file size on my Mac?
Thanks.

No, I empty the trash before archiving. It is not a big deal now but will be as my library grows and backups take longer.

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Annoying but not fatal bug uncovered in Aperture file size metadata.

The bug described below was found as a result of testing the relative print sharpness of the Aperture print routines. I printed an adjusted Canon 5D image with Aperture's print routine to a 4X6, 300ppi print output, then took the same image through P'shop, (as a PSD) downsized the file to the same dimensions and converted it to 8-bit color depth. Then printed the returned file through Aperture.
To my surprise when I was performing this comparison, I found that the file size shown in the metadata panel of the test file was not reduced, even though I had significantly downsized the file (from an "outbound" 72.2GB to an "inbound" file of slightly less than 7GB. So I repeated the round trip to P'shop, using the OSX Inspector to examine the relevant .approject size at three points in the workflow:
1) Before executing the "Open in External Editor" command;
2) After the PSD version had been created by Aperture; and
3) After re-sizing the file in P'Shop and saving it back to Aperture.
The net of the test was as follows:
1) The size of the base (pre-export) .approject increased by approximately 72.2GB when it created the 16-bit PSD file for export to P'shop - exactly what the metadata showed and what I expected for a 5D file at 16-bit color depth.
2) When the resized file was returned from P'shop, the base .approject file was now only 7.5GB larger, indicating the size of the returned file was in fact reduced by the downsizing.
So the problem is not creation of an abnormally large Aperture PSD file. The metadata file size is simply not updated when the downsized file is returned from P'shop.
I submitted a bug report to Apple on this, but I'm not sure what priority it will get. So this is an FYI in case others have observed a similar phenomenon and been concerned about it.
BTW: The file downsized via the P'Shop round trip was noticeably sharper on printing (from Aperture) than the print produced directly out of Aperture. So it appears the print output sharpening routines in Aperture still need considerable improvement. That's the improvement I'd rather have Apple spending their time on than an anoying but not fatal bug in file size metadata.
Mike
PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0GHz, Radeon X800XT Graphics Card; MacBookPro 2.0Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.6) iMac800 and Powerbook G4 also in household

I was trying to imagine how you were managing taking more than a few photographs if your files were increasing the space take by 72GB a pop.
I was also imagining a camera the size of an aircraft carrier.

Aperture File Size vs iPhoto

Hi folks, this issue has probably been handled before but I searched and couldn't find it in the first few pages.
I import all my pictures with iPhoto. Then when I export the pictures I wanna fix and import them into Aperture. The problem is, I noticed that a file that is 1.8mb in iPhoto ends up as about double the size in Aperture. Is there any reason for this?
And what I mean is, when I choose "export version" the file coming out of Aperture is about twice as big.
Any help would be appreciated.

Hi folks, this issue has probably been handled before
but I searched and couldn't find it in the first few
pages.
I import all my pictures with iPhoto. Then when I
export the pictures I wanna fix and import them into
Aperture. The problem is, I noticed that a file that
is 1.8mb in iPhoto ends up as about double the size
in Aperture. Is there any reason for this?
And what I mean is, when I choose "export version"
the file coming out of Aperture is about twice as
big.
Any help would be appreciated.
Can anyone give me advice or point me in the right direction? I shoot RAW and the files are approx 15mb- when I export them to jpeg original size they are only about 2mb. I am worried as I am told I need at least 4-5 mb for a quality 8X10 print?
Any ideas on how to make the mb size (jpeg) larger? I have the quality at 12, the dpi at 300 and the setting for jpeg original size.
Thanks so much,

Time Machine file size vs actual file size of Aperture library

My Aperture database is 74.5GB. I have a referenced library. My photos are backup up on their own using Time Machine. I also use Time Machine to backup my Aperture database. However, I noticed yesterday that the Aperture filesize on my time machine backup is only 28.3GB. I need to upgrade my hard drive and had planned to just restore form time machine backup, but I am worried about losing Aperture data. Does anyone know why there is a discrepency?
-Debbie

Johnk93 wrote:
MacDLS,
I recently did a little house-cleaning on my startup drive (only 60Gb) and now have about 20Gb free, so I don't think that is the problem.
It's probably not a very fast drive in the first place...
I know that 5MB isn't very big, but for some reason it takes a lot longer to open these scanned files in photoshop (from aperture) than the 5MB files from my camera. Any idea why this is?
Have a look at the file size of one of those externally edited files for a clue - it won't be 5MB. When Aperture sends a file out for editing, it creates either a PSD or an uncompressed TIFF after applying any image adjustments that you've applied in Aperture, and sends that out. Depending on the settings in Aperture's preferences this will be in either 8-bit or 16-bit.
As a 16-bit uncompressed TIFF, a 44 megapixel image weighs in at a touch over 150MB...
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So far it's doing just fine with my Mamiya 645 scans (about 11,000x15,000 pixels, around 200MB) whereas Aperture 2 would gag and maroon-screen on them. Needless to say my poor old first gen Mac Proo huffs and wheezes a bit on some operations, but it is working.
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File size in Aperture

I am a new Aperture user. When I try to attach photos from Aperture to an email, the file size is significantly decreased (5.4 MB down to 617 KB). This does not happen in iPhoto. I tried "exporting" to the desktop in original size and then attaching but it still decreases file size (5.4 MB down to 1.6 MB). Anyone shed come light? Thanks in advance.

There is an Aperture forum but
When I try to attach photos from Aperture to an email, the file size is significantly decreased (5.4 MB down to 617 KB).
This is because you're attaching an Aperture Preview to the email. You can increase the quality of the Previews in the Aperture preferences.
I tried "exporting" to the desktop in original size and then attaching but it still decreases file size (5.4 MB down to 1.6 MB).
Don't mean to be rude, but Aperture is a very powerful and quite a complex app and really you do need to RTFM sometimes.
Original Size refers to the dimensions (length by breadth) not the File Size. The File size is determined by the Export Preset you use, and whether or not you're exporting Masters or Versions.
Regards
TD

Nikon D1x - raw file size and sharpening in Aperture

Good day all:
I have looked for several hours but can't find the answer to two questions:
1) How to set Aperture to use the full file size for the D1x, approx. 10.7 MB, vs the smaller Raw file size of 7.7 MB. The Nikon software all allows this function. Can aperture do it?
2)Aperture greys out the shrapening buttons for my D1x files, but allows it for my D100. I have tried every permutation I can think of, no luck. I wonder if it might be related to question #1? Thanks so much. I really need to do some sharpening!
Randy

Good day all:
I have looked for several hours but can't find the answer to two questions:
1) How to set Aperture to use the full file size for the D1x, approx. 10.7 MB, vs the smaller Raw file size of 7.7 MB. The Nikon software all allows this function. Can aperture do it?
2)Aperture greys out the shrapening buttons for my D1x files, but allows it for my D100. I have tried every permutation I can think of, no luck. I wonder if it might be related to question #1? Thanks so much. I really need to do some sharpening!
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Aperture file tripled in size after importing iPhoto

My iPhoto folder is 43GB and contains 20K images. When I imported into Aperture my aperture file grew to 120 GB. I deleted the albums in aperture which contained duplicate files, but my aperture file is still 120GB. Why is this and how can I get it down to 43GB. BTW, my aperture library shows 20K images so I don't understand why my file size is so large. Thanks.

what type of files ???
do you have previews turned on ???
what size and res of previews ???
it is possible but a 300% increase is not likely ...
what is telling you 120GB ???
Message was edited by: tidysteve
btw ... if you use a managed library it will never be the same size as all your photos ... always bigger ... thumbnails, sidecar files, previews, etc all take up space ...

File Sizes Surge with Merger of Aperture an iPhoto Libraries

I merged an Aperture library and an iPhoto library. All went well. However, the resulting file sizes on BOTH new libraries have increased significantly. The iPhoto file size went from ~ 50 gigs to ~144 gigs and the Aperture library went from ~90 gigs to ~ 102 gigs.
I thought I would be able to delete one of the libraries (iPhoto) after the merger, but now that it is so big...I;m not sure what to do.
I can understand the post merger Aperture library getting larger, but why the iPhoto library?
Also, I read that the iPhoto library may contain "originals" and that only versions merged over into the new Aperture (post merger) library. Is that true? If so, what can be done to move over the originals to whicheveer library survives?
Thanks!

How exactly did you merge? And what are your Aperture and iPhoto versions?
Why are there two new libraries after merging an Aperture library and an iPhoto library? Merging two libraries should create one merged library, or am I missing something?
WIth Aperture 3.3 or later and iPhoto 9.3 or later: If you want to merge an iPhoto library into an Aperture library, you would open the Aperture library and then use "File > Import > Library" and select the iPhoto Library to merge the iPhoto Library into your Aperture library.
The Aperture library should increase in size to accomodate your iPhoto images, but the size of the imported iPhoto library should stay the same.
Also, I read that the iPhoto library may contain "originals" and that only versions merged over into the new Aperture (post merger) library. Is that true? If so, what can be done to move over the originals to whicheveer library survives?
That will depend on the iPhoto and Aperture versions you are using. With any Aperture version later than Aperture 3.3. both the originals and edited versions will be imported into Aperture, when you import an iPhoto library as library to merge it into the Aperture library. Only if your iPhoto library is referenced (the original image files not included in the iPhoto library), then Aperture will also reference these original files and not import them into the Aperture library. YOu can consolidate the originals later in aperture.
But we need to know, how exactly you merged your libraries to be able to understand, how both libraries increased in size. Did you not use "File > Import > Library"?
-- Léonie

Aperture photo file size

I'm working on some scanned images I imported into Aperture some time ago. I have two instances of the exact same image - the pixel dimensions are identical (4960 x 3596 17.3MP). But one has a File Size = 16MB and the other has a File Size = 99MB. The only difference I can see is that the 16MB file carries a file type suffix of .TIF and the 99MB file has a suffix of .tiff.
Any ideas about what is going on here?

In my experience, the Tiff that Aperture will create to send to the external editor -- in my case Photoshop CS5 -- has the .tiff extension. Do you have Photoshop or Photoshop Elements? If you do, and the edited file were returned with layes, it would not be unusual at all to see this size. With the image with large file, do an Export Master to the desktop, and with PS, or other editor, check to see if it has layers.
Btw, the ones I scan with my Epson 4870 have only a .tif extension.
Ernie
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Aperture is exporting large file size e.g. original image is 18.2MB and the exported version (TFF 16 Bit) is 47.9MB, any ideas please

Aperture is exporting large file size e.g. original image is 18.2MB and the exported version (TFF 16 Bit) is 47.9MB, any ideas please

Raws, even if not compressed, Sould be smaller than a 24-bit Tiff, since they have only one bitplane. My T3i shoots 14 bit 18MP raws and has a raw file size of 24.5 MB*. An uncompressed Tiff should have a size of 18 MP x 3 bytes per pixel or 54 MB.
*There must be some lossless compression going on since 18 MP times 1.75 bytes per pixel is 31.5MB for uncompressed raw.

Aperture help/questions - File Size, Versions, etc

Hi,
I am new to the Mac, and after a small learning curve am now loving it. Can’t believe what I missed all those years under Windows. Anyway one of my biggest problems has been workflow and photo management, so I rushed out and bought Aperture without much investigation. I’m still getting to know it, and so far think it’s very good except for the following points, which may be down to my inexperience with the product rather than any shortcomings. I store all my shots as managed files in my Aperture library.
1. File sizes. Often I use Photoshop for minor/major modifications. There would be few shots that would not require some tweaking if I wanted to get the best image. I have PS3 set up as my external editor. My problem is the huge file size generated after using PS. For example my master file may be around 3mb (jpeg) but my PS file is 45mb! Now if I have a few versions of the PS file, as often is the case, I go from a few megabytes of storage for the image to a few hundred megabytes of storage!! Is there a way around this ??
What’s more if I create a Duplicate Version of the PSD version and do NOTHING it grows again. For example my initial JPEG is 2.78mb, I creat a new version via PS and add some adjustment layers and save the new version back. This new version has now grown to 45.56mb. I then wish to make another different version based on my previous version so I first select the version1 and then Duplicate Version. Now before I do ANYTHING if I save it back I get a new version with a file size of 68.49mb!!! If I do this again, my next version is hasn’t grown in size again, it’s still 68.49mb. What gives ??
2. Per 1) above can I save back from PS in JPEG and not PSD to bring the file size down. That is open the file in PS via the external editor in Aperture, make some adjustments and save it back as a new version in JPEG ??
3. Related to 2) above I often want to have multiple PS versions. For example the first one may just have some USM added. Subsequent ones however may have different crops, tonings, etc. So in Aperture what I do is create my first version and add the USM and whatever other standard treatments. Then save this. Then create a duplicate of this version and open the duplicate in PS via the external editor in Aperture. Make some changes then save back. Only now I have 4 files – the original, my version 1, the duplicate of this and my new version based on the duplicate. So I must now delete the duplicate (file three) version . Is there a better way ??
4. I find it hard sometimes to tell if I am on a master file or a version. Is there a way to definitely tell ? For example on occasion I have gone to delete a version, I get the dialog warning that all versions and masters will be deleted and then I seem to have lost both the version AND the master ?? This seems a bit dangerous.
5. The vault seems very slow to update when minor changes have been made. For example I created a new version of a master with a minor modification performed in Aperture (saturation set to zero) and then updated my vault. This should be a very quick process as the new version really just consists of some modification information and not the whole file. The update takes as long as if I were to add a few hundred megs of new photo’s to the library ! Is it overwriting the whole vault again, or is it just updating the changes (as I assume it should)
Sorry for the long winded explanations. Any advice/help/thoughts are much appreciated.
Thanks.
Simon
imac24 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Hello, Simon
quote: "I am new to the Mac, and after a small learning curve am now loving it."
It only gets better
Welcome to the forum and macs!
quote: "My problem is the huge file size generated after using PS. For example my master file may be around 3mb (jpeg) but my PS file is 45mb! Now if I have a few versions of the PS file"
Check your Export Image settings like quality, size, DPI. Prior to Open with External Editor make the photograph as best as possible, all adjustments, crop, etc and then take it to Photoshop, back to Aperture and print it or upload to web etc. If the photograph is being used on the web there is no need to make a huge file
quote: "above can I save back from PS in JPEG and not PSD to bring the file size down"
You might think about keeping the jpegs jpeg on the export from Aperture to PS instead of jpeg to psd to jpeg.
4. quote: "I find it hard sometimes to tell if I am on a master file or a version. Is there a way to definitely tell ?"
the "m" key toggles from Master to Version (adjusted).
5. quote: "The vault seems very slow to update when minor changes have been made."
this is contingent on the system like rpms, processor, usb or fw...
victor

Aperture Exporting JPEG's from RAW: file size and quality questions?

Hey Everyone,
So, I'm using Aperture 2 and I've got some questions about exporting from RAW to JPEG. I shoot with a Nikon D70 so original RAW files are 5-6mb in size. After doing some basic post processing when I export the pics at "full size" with picture quality of 11 out of 12 then the resulting JPEG is about half the file size of the original RAW file. For example a 5.6mb RAW becomes a 2.6mb JPEG. The resolution in pixels per inch and and the overall image size remain unchanged. Have I lost picture quality due to the exporting JPEG being smaller in file size?
My friend who works with me prefers to edit in Photoshop and when he follows the same workflow his saved JPEG from the identical RAW file in Photoshop is minimally smaller in file size, say 5.6mb to 5.3mb. He's telling me that my Aperture edited photos are losing quality and resolution.
Is he right, are my pics of lesser quality due to being a smaller file size? I've always been told that the quality of a picture is not in the mbs, but the pixel density.
I've bee told that Aperture has a better compression engine and that the resulting files are of the exact same quality because the PPI and image size are the same. Is that what explains the much smaller file sizes in Aperture?
I tried changing the picture quality in the export menu to 12 out of 12, but the resulting JPEG then becomes larger than the original RAW at over 7mbs.
Can someone please help me understand this better? I don't want to lose picture quality if that is indeed what is happening.
Thanks in advance for your help.

mscriv wrote:
So, I'm using Aperture 2 and I've got some questions about exporting from RAW to JPEG. I shoot with a Nikon D70 so original RAW files are 5-6mb in size. After doing some basic post processing when I export the pics at "full size" with picture quality of 11 out of 12 then the resulting JPEG is about half the file size of the original RAW file. For example a 5.6mb RAW becomes a 2.6mb JPEG. The resolution in pixels per inch and and the overall image size remain unchanged. Have I lost picture quality due to the exporting JPEG being smaller in file size?
JPEG is a "lossy" file compression algorithm. Whether Aperture or PS, *every time a JPEG is saved some loss occurs*, albeit minimal at the 11 or 12 level of save, huge losses at low save levels. Some images (sky, straight diagonal lines, etc.) are more vulnerable to showing visible jpeg artifacts.
My friend who works with me prefers to edit in Photoshop and when he follows the same workflow his saved JPEG from the identical RAW file in Photoshop is minimally smaller in file size, say 5.6mb to 5.3mb. He's telling me that my Aperture edited photos are losing quality and resolution.
*Both of you are losing image data when you save to jpeg.* IMO the differences between the apps is probably just how the apps work rather than actually losing significantly more data. The real image data loss is in using JPEG at all!
Is he right, are my pics of lesser quality due to being a smaller file size?
I doubt it.
I've always been told that the quality of a picture is not in the mbs, but the pixel density.
The issue here is not how many pixels (because you are not varying that) but how much data each pixel contains. In this case once you avoid lossy JPEG the quality mostly has to do with different RAW conversion algorithms. Apple and Adobe both guess what Nikon is up to with the proprietary RAW NEF files and the results are different from ACR to Apple to Nikon. For my D2x pix I like Nikon's conversions the best (but Nikon software is hard to use), Aperture second and Adobe ACR (what Photoshop/Bridge uses) third. I 98% use Aperture.
I tried changing the picture quality in the export menu to 12 out of 12, but the resulting JPEG then becomes larger than the original RAW at over 7mbs. Can someone please help me understand this better? I don't want to lose picture quality if that is indeed what is happening.
JPEG is a useful format but lossy. Only use it as a _last step_ when you must save files size for some reason and are willing to accept the by-definition loss of image data to obtain smaller files (such as for web work or other on-screen viewing). Otherwise (especially for printing) save as TIFF or PSD which are non-lossy file types, but larger.
As to the Aperture vs. ACR argument, RAW-convert the same original both ways, save as TIFF and see if your eyes/brain significantly prefer one over the other. Nikon, Canon etc. keep proprietary original image capture data algorithms secret and each individual camera's RAW conversion is different.
HTH
-Allen

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Using Aperture 3.3.1 (all my images are Referenced). I created my first vault on an external hard drive. The Vault.apvault file size is 32.8 GB. My Aperture Library.aplibrary file size on my iMac hard drive is 81.6 GB. So I am wondering if I have a full back-up in Vault or not. Seems like a large discrepency in file size. Any thoughts or help would be appreciated.

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