Aperture & Iphoto library

Hello, I'm trying aperture, it's good for me, but I'd like also to continue using Iphoto for easy works. I've read that the libary can't be shared. Can you help me. I''ve 20000 photo on iphoto, but I like to use both the 2 programs, how it's possible without complications?
Thks
Enrico

There is no way to do this. Period.
If you import files to iPhoto you will also then have to also import them to Aperture. If you modify a photo in Aperture you'll need to import that modified version to iPhoto etc etc.
Really, using the two is a bit pointless and making double the work for yourself. Aperture will do everything that iPhoto will, plus a whole lot more. I would suggest that you use Aperture and for anything that you require iPhoto, then simply share your Aperture Previews with it.
Regards
TD

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I just noticed that I can no longer select photos out of my finder that are located in my Aperture/Iphoto Library. I used to be able to attach photos to my gmail out of the aperture library in the finder and for some reason, no longer can.

I just noticed that I can no longer select photos out of my finder that are located in my Aperture/Iphoto Library. I used to be able to attach photos to my gmail out of the aperture library in the finder and for some reason, no longer can.
I can't access these images except to go into the applications.
Also, I'd like to import my iphoto library into aperture, and move aperture library to an external drive. I tried the import first, but there wasn't enough space. Then I tried copying over the aperture library onto the external drive but it failed bc it said file was in use.
As it is, I only have 50gb left on my imac, and the aperture library is 150gb. Also, I have over 10k images in both libraries combined and there are tons of duplicates that need to be sorted, and hopefully not messed up because I've organized most of them.
So in short, I need to know how to do the following:
-select photos in finder in aperture/iphoto libraries
-move aperture library to live on external drive
-import iphoto library into aperture library
-eliminate dups but maintain organization
-moving forward i need a better workflow so that I import images from camera, and can organize right away into albums rather than creating projects by default and then creating albums so essentially the photos are in 2 different places, even tho they are referenced
-live happily ever after
Thanks in advance for any support you can offer!!

If you're using apps like iPhoto or Aperture then they replace the Finder for managing your photos. The point is that you use the (many) options available via these apps for the things you want and need to do with the Photos.
So, simply, you don't select the photos in the Finder. I'll append the supported ways to do this - which are faster and will yield the current version of your Photos - to the end of this post.
-move aperture library to live on external drive
Managed or Referenced Library? Managed -
Make sure the drive is formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
1. Quit Aperture
2. Copy the Library from your Pictures Folder to the External Disk.
3. Hold down the option (or alt) key while launching Aperture. From the resulting menu select 'Choose Library' and navigate to the new location. From that point on this will be the default location of your library.
4. Test the library and when you're sure all is well, trash the one on your internal HD to free up space.
Referenced - relocate your Masters first.
These issues are covered in the Manual and on this forum hundreds of times.
-import iphoto library into aperture library
FIle -> Import -> iPhoto Library? Have you done this already? If so are you trying to move the Masters to Aperture from an iPhoto Library? Or Consolidate them?
-moving forward i need a better workflow so that I import images from camera, and can organize right away into albums rather than creating projects by default and then creating albums so essentially the photos are in 2 different places, even tho they are referenced
You can't. Every photo is in a Project. They’re the basic building blocks of the Library.
You might want to spend a little time with the manual or the video tutorials. I'm not sure you've grasped the app you've purchased.
The following is written for iPhoto, but about 97% works for Aperture too.
There are many, many ways to access your files in iPhoto/ APerture: You can use any Open / Attach / Browse dialogue. On the left there's a Media heading, your pics can be accessed there. Command-Click for selecting multiple pics. This is what you use to attach your shot to your GMail
(Note the above illustration is not a Finder Window. It's the dialogue you get when you go File -> Open)
You can access the Library from the New Message Window in Mail:
There's a similar option in Outlook and many, many other apps. If you use Apple's Mail, Entourage, AOL or Eudora you can email from within iPhoto/ Aperture.
If you use a Cocoa-based Browser such as Safari, you can drag the pics from the iPhoto Window to the Attach window in the browser.
If you want to access the files with iPhoto/ Aperture not running:
For users of 10.6 and later: You can download a free Services component from MacOSXAutomation which will give you access to the Library from your Services Menu.
Using the Services Preference Pane you can even create a keyboard shortcut for it.
or use this free utility Karelia iMedia Browser

Sync BOTH Aperture & iPhoto library

Hello!
Is there a way to sync both Aperture & iPhoto library onto an iDevice? I know that I can import the iPhoto library to Aperture but this does not solve my problem.
I update both libraries separately as I use Aperture for RAW images which were taken with a DSLR and iPhoto for other image files from point-and-shoot cameras or mobile devices.
If I import iPhoto into Aperture and then later update the iPhoto library then the new images do not show up in Aperture or my iDevice.
Thank you.

I'm using they both to get more free space.
Using two libraries in different applications to manage the same data does not get you "more free space". Precisely the opposite, in fact.
Unless you have a specific need for using iPhoto as well as Aperture, you should simply elect to use one and forget about the other. Pick one horse and ride it.
Regards
TD

Aperture iPhoto library storage

Just a little bit of background. I have two computers (iMac and Macbook) and I currently use iPhoto on both. I sync the libraries using Chronosync.
I am thinking about buying AP3 and installing it on the iMac but I still want to be able to sync its library with iPhoto on the Macbook. Now, currently to sync my 2 iphoto libraries I select the library files on each computer. If I get AP3 on my iMac, can it just use the iPhoto library to store without creating a new AP3 library?
If AP3 can store the images inside iPhoto library, how will iPhoto appear if I open that?
Or is the best option just to install AP3 on both computers seeing that Apple's license allows it?

I have two computers (iMac and Macbook) and I currently use iPhoto on both. I sync the libraries using Chronosync.
What do you mean by "Sync".
The general term means when two Libraries (A and B) are compared and files in Library A are copied to Library B, while files in Library B are also copied to Library A so that both Libraries are identical.
This is bi-directional copying and you cannot do this with automatically with iPhoto. No Syncing software is capable of parsing the iPhoto Library in this manner. One or both of your Libraries will be damaged if you try this.
You can have uni-directional copying - files in Library A are copied to Library B - this is essentially backing up. Obviously you can also copy from Library B to Library A.
The nearest you can get to syncing is to use iPhoto Library Manager to move files/Albums/Events plus assoicated metadata between Libraries. This process cannot be automated.
hinking about buying AP3 and installing it on the iMac but I still want to be able to sync its library with iPhoto on the Macbook.
Sync Aperture and iPhoto? Aperture has an entirely different Library from iPhoto and iPhoto will make no sense of it whatever.
If I get AP3 on my iMac, can it just use the iPhoto library to store without creating a new AP3 library?
Yes.
If AP3 can store the images inside iPhoto library, how will iPhoto appear if I open that?
The same as now.
Note that iPhoto will have no access to edits done in Aperture.
Regards
TD

Aperture / Iphoto library looks empty.

I installed the latest Aperture version 3.6, and when i tried to open, it ask me to rebuild the library for the latest version with iphoto, i did everything it asked and after all when i open aperture or iphoto they don't show anything, they don't have any pictures. One important thing is that the file size of the library, thats stored on an external drive, is really big, 4.6gb so i think my photos are still there.
I tried rebuilding it, repairing permissions and all that and its still the same, what else can i do?
thank you for your help

Does it mean that I will lose all my versions, ratings etc with my old photos? I have 400Gt+ library with lots of modifications and I would be a catastrophe it they are blown away ;(
Are you seeing the same library corruption as omar.msk after trying to upgrade the library? An apparently empty iPhoto library, and the original image files in the "Old Masters" folder instead of the "Masters" folder?
Then it is the same bug. Recreating he iPhoto Library by importing the Old Masters into a new empty library will only rescue the photos, but not your work - edits, rating, albums, ...
Copy the Old Masters to an external drive for save keeping, also the Old Previews and Old Thumbnails. Then try first to restore your iPhoto library from your last backup you made before the upgrade. (iPhoto '11: Restoring from Time Machine with iPhoto '11 (9.2 or later) and OS X Lion 10.7.2 (or later)). Then add any newer photos from the "Old.." folders, that have not been part of the backup.

Share Aperture & iPhoto Library

Is it possible for Aperture to use my old iPhoto library or do they have to be two distinct librarys? I'm not quite ready to give up iPhoto but don't want to duplicate my 100GB library.
Also, is there a maximum size, or perhaps a recommended size of library to kep the application running fast? iPhoto is a bear to load now wich I assume is due to the size of the library.

Leaving Files in their present location is known as Referenced Files. Lots of pro's & cons. Managed Files have the masters kept in Aperture. The main difference you have probably gathered, referenced frees up internal HD space. You lose a major Aperture feature, as the vaults won't back up the referenced files, but a back up as you import is possible so not such a big deal.
The really good news is you have the option to change at any time. My advice is to feel your way round Aperture before dealing with the real thing. You can even set up the whole workflow before bringing in a single image. Shoot off some unimportant pictures and have some dry runs before going for it. It may be you could just leave iPhoto as is and just start using Aperture instead. Then just bring stuff over as and when required, in a way you are comfortable with.
A lot of people seem to come unstuck when they first get Aperture and in particular coming from iPhoto and bringing a lot of images to Aperture. There is a lot that can go wrong. It seems intuitive on the surface but not when you start to delve a little deeper. I would say there are a lot more implications if you don't leave the masters were they are. Also much depends on what you want to do, people seem to not want to totally leave iPhoto behind them. I was glad to see the back of it when Aperture came out but thats me. It's not even on the machine, i've no use for it.
Aperture is a jolly good Darkroom in a box. Perhaps the bulb is duff in the safelight though. But i'm sure you will get to love it; eventually.
Allan

After "consolidating masters" to transition from iPhoto to Aperture, iPhoto library is still 36 GB

I have, I believe completed the process of moving everything from iPhoto to Aperture (after having a mix of managed and referenced files) by the "consolidate masters" process.
I notice now that my iPhoto library is still 36 GB in size. When I "show package contents", I see there are still a number of folders (named by year) each containing subfolders which contain a number of photographs. (See attachment).
I've got about 25,000 photos in Aperture now and I believe these seem to never have been imported (either as managed or referenced photos) into Aperture.
Are they located within the iPhoto Library package in such a way as to have been hidden from Aperture when I originally elected to reference iPhoto files?
Just trying to figure out what happened...

When you consolidated, did you elect to move or copy the files to the new location?
Regards
TD

I just purchased Aperture and have 20,000 photos in my iPhoto Library. Can I import only certain events from iPhoto into Aperture or do I have to merge the whole iPhoto library?

I just purchased Aperture and have 20,000 + photos in my iPhoto Library. I see that I can create a unified library between the two. I am wondering if I can import only certain events from iPhoto (like only 2014 events) into Aperture or do I have to merge the whole iPhoto library? Are there any benefits to bringing the whole iPhoto library over to Aperture (iPhoto is SO SLOW for me, I wonder if it is because I have so many photos). Or, any detriment to only bring a few events over?
And, if I don't merge the two libraries, I assume that means I cannot do it at a later date?
Help. My local Apple store has had very few Aperture workshops, and the next one is like 2 months away.

Thank you so much for this information. Here are some responses/comments:
Disk space - it says 114.43 GB out of 499.25 GB free. I have no idea if that is enough.
iPhoto version is 9.5.1
Again, I am not sure how to know if I have 3rd party software...but I don't think I do. Is 3rd party software anything non-apple?
I will try rebuilding the library. if that doesn't help, maybe I need more memory...? That is what Apple suggested, but that, of course, means buying something else. I've already bought APERTURE, on their recommendation...
It wasn't, and they told me it was slow because I had too many photos for iPhoto to handle and that I should buy Aperture. Which I did.
What is your iPhoto version? Are you using the most recent version 9.5.1?
iPhoto can handle 20000 photos, no problem. Your computer can be slow for several reasons:
The most common problem for slowness - insufficient disk space. Don't let your free disk space drop below 20 GB of free space, better more. If the operating system does not have enough working space and the applications you are using, you will notice a very lagging behaviour.
Older or incompatible softweare can cripple your mac. Do you have any older third-party software installed, that might have installed incompatible kernel extensions?
Aperture might be slow or keep crashing, if you imported a corrupted image or incompatible video, that cannot be processed. Then Aperture will try over and over again to create previews and never succeed. You could test for this situation, by launching Aperture with the Shift-key held down. This will defer the generation of previews. If Aperture will launch and work better this way, you probably have some bad media in your photo library.
Another problem to check for is a corruption of your Aperture/iPhoto library. You have run the First Aid Tools to repair the iPhoto Library, but have you ever tried to rebuild the library? See this post by Old Toad: Rebuild iPhoto Version 11

IPhoto library-file deleted - and originals missing in Aperture....

Just moved my Aperture-library to my new iMac. Unfortunately almost all pics came from my old iPhoto-library which is gone now.
I can't do anything but look at the pictures. Can't edit, export, share etc.
When trying to e.g. export a file Aperture says 'The selected original image is either offline or not found. Please reconnect it and try again.'.
Don't ask about the backup from Time Machine - that too is gone...
Now what?
Thanks.
Thomas

How did you import your old iPhoto photos? And with what Aperture version?
Before the unified Aperture - iPhoto library has been introduced, it was possible to import an iPhoto library as referenced. This left all originals in the iPhoto library, so iPhoto continued to work, but Aperture could use the master files. Is that the way you imported your iPhoto library, with the master files in there original location?
When trying to e.g. export a file Aperture says 'The selected original image is either offline or not found. Please reconnect it and try again.'.
That is the typical error message, when Aperture cannot access the original files. And Aperture wil not be able to do anything with your images, unless you restore the missing originals.
Just moved my Aperture-library to my new iMac.
Where did you move your Aperture library from ? From an older mac? From a backup?
Did Aperture work on that old Mac and could access the originals?
Do you still have that old mac, and is there any chance that recovery software could retrieve the missing original files on that mac?
Sometimes Aperture reports originals as missing, even if they are managed inside the Aperture library.
You can find out, where Aperture is looking for the original files, if you select some image files in the browser and use Aperture's command "File > Locate Referenced Files".
In the panel that opens, you can see the path to missing files in the upper right corner below the thumbnail.
What do you see, when you use that command?

Aperture and iPhoto library deleted

I upgraded my Aperture w/no problem. About one month later, all images in Aperture and iPhoto dissapeared. "Genius Bar" checked, said no problem and didn't have a clue. Bought a Time-Machine backup at store, had a consultant there show me how to set up, but he had a problem as the Airport Utility was gone. He said that was rare and downloaded it. He suggested there could be a connection to all this. I'm afraid to use the iMac. Help? Doing search for images or libraries no good, will show libraries, but with zero files. Tnx. Leif

How did you import your old iPhoto photos? And with what Aperture version?
Before the unified Aperture - iPhoto library has been introduced, it was possible to import an iPhoto library as referenced. This left all originals in the iPhoto library, so iPhoto continued to work, but Aperture could use the master files. Is that the way you imported your iPhoto library, with the master files in there original location?
When trying to e.g. export a file Aperture says 'The selected original image is either offline or not found. Please reconnect it and try again.'.
That is the typical error message, when Aperture cannot access the original files. And Aperture wil not be able to do anything with your images, unless you restore the missing originals.
Just moved my Aperture-library to my new iMac.
Where did you move your Aperture library from ? From an older mac? From a backup?
Did Aperture work on that old Mac and could access the originals?
Do you still have that old mac, and is there any chance that recovery software could retrieve the missing original files on that mac?
Sometimes Aperture reports originals as missing, even if they are managed inside the Aperture library.
You can find out, where Aperture is looking for the original files, if you select some image files in the browser and use Aperture's command "File > Locate Referenced Files".
In the panel that opens, you can see the path to missing files in the upper right corner below the thumbnail.
What do you see, when you use that command?

How do I transfer my iPhoto library to two separate drives using Aperture

Hi, I'm using iPhoto 9.4.2. My photo library is taking up most of my Macbook Pro's hard drive space so I bought Aperture 3.4.3 after reading the following description:
"As your iPhoto library grows, it may become too big to store on your computer’s hard drive. Aperture lets you set up as many external drives as you want and specify where to store each of your photos."
I want to put most of my photos on an external drive and only the most recent photos on my Mac's hard drive. I can't figure out exactly how to do this, though.
Hopefully someone can provide simple instructions. Thanks!

"As your iPhoto library grows, it may become too big to store on your computer’s hard drive. Aperture lets you set up as many external drives as you want and specify where to store each of your photos."
This is referring to turning your Aperture/iPhoto library into a referenced library. Aperture lets you relocate the original image files to a folder outside your photolibrary (this folder may be on external drive) and reference the originals in this location. This way the library itself will be smaller, but if you want to edit or export the referenced images, you need to make sure the external drive is mounted.
Relocating original files is simple: Just select the images you want to relocate in the browser and use the command "File > relocate original file(s)". But after relocating you are responsible for protecting the originals. Do not move, renmae, or edit them in any way. Make sure you have a working backup of your library before you start restructering it.
See this part of the manual for more help: Aperture 3 User Manual: Working with Referenced Images
Just in case Aperture should lose the connection to some referenced originals (this can happen sometimes, if the you need to restore your harddrive) use the command "File > Locate referenced files" to reconnect them.
Regards
Léonie

Sharing iPhoto Library Not Recomended?

According to this.
Is this really a problem? I would like to do this if its not a problem. Acually I do have several iPhoto Libraries in the /Users/Shared folder and so far in iPhoto 5 there didn't seem to be any major problems except for the one listed at the bottom. When upgrading to iPhoto 6 yesterday I did get the permission error while opening a /Users/Shared/iPhoto Library for the first time and I did this.
Setting Permissions for iPhoto Library Folder
1 - Select the iPhoto Library folder and type Command-I.
2 - When the Info window comes up go to the Ownership and Permissions section and make sure You have Read & Write permission and that the Owner and Group have Read & Write also. Others - Read Only.
3 - Then click on the "Apply to enclosed items..." button.
And it seems to be fine. I would really like to keep the iPhoto Libraries in the /Users/Shared folder if I can so that both me (Admin) and my wife (Standard) can access/edit/add/delete pics to this library. Thats why I'm troubled why it's not recommeded.
I also use iPhoto Library Manager v3.2.1 and have the options set as Owner and Group have Read & Write and Others - Read Only. I also have the settings Permissions to Apply as enabled to automatically apply before launching iPhoto and when iPhoto Quits. But I only use it if I want to change libraries if not I just open iPhoto.
I noticed in iPhoto 5 that sometimes after importing photos to this library from one user that when accessing that library from another user iPhoto wouldn't open until the permissions were changed again. I think this happened when I did not launch iphoto from iPhoto Library Manager. Does this mean if I leave the library in the Shared folder I should after importing photos always open iPhoto with iPhoto Library Manager to change the permissions. Will this fix the problem?
Alan

Hello, I have an issue where my iPhoto library is not visible in iTunes Photo Sharing Preferences. I wish to have my iPhoto library (Aperture Library) available on my Apple TV.
Does your joint Aperture/iPhoto library show in the Finder as "Kind Aperture Library"?
Then set your Photo Sharing to share from Aperture and not from iPhoto.
When I try to sync or share iPhoto libraries from iTunes, it will look for libraries "Kind iPhoto" and not sync with an Aperture library, even if it is the current iPhoto library.

Iphoto library not visible for itunes home sharing

Hello, I have an issue where my iPhoto library is not visible in iTunes Photo Sharing Preferences. I wish to have my iPhoto library (Aperture Library) available on my Apple TV. I have switched on Home Sharing. When I go to iTunes/File/Home Sharing/ then wish to select which photos to share, iPhoto is not listed in the preference pane. The only available option is my Pictures folder.
My library is on an external hard drive. When I try to point to it manually, the library is greyed out.
Any ideas? I have been using Home Sharing for a long time and have not had this before. I have latest version of iTunes and iPhoto. My library is an Aperture library. The external hard drive is Mac OS Extended format. There should be no issues there. I have done a check disk and a repair permissions also.
Thxs

Hello, I have an issue where my iPhoto library is not visible in iTunes Photo Sharing Preferences. I wish to have my iPhoto library (Aperture Library) available on my Apple TV.
Does your joint Aperture/iPhoto library show in the Finder as "Kind Aperture Library"?
Then set your Photo Sharing to share from Aperture and not from iPhoto.
When I try to sync or share iPhoto libraries from iTunes, it will look for libraries "Kind iPhoto" and not sync with an Aperture library, even if it is the current iPhoto library.

I can not open my Aperture or Iphoto library

Hello everyone,
I have the application Aperture where I edit pictures and can not seem to open it today when I try the message "To open this iPhoto library in Aperture, it first needs to be upgraded.Verify that you have iPhoto 9.4 or later. Then open the library in iPhoto to upgrade it." I upgraded Iphoto and then tryed to open Aperture while Iphoto was closed and I got the same message. Then I tried to open the Iphoto library and now the message "Your photo library is either in use by another application or has become unreadable.Shut down and restart your computer, and then open iPhoto again. If the problem persists, try rebuilding your photo library. To do this, quit iPhoto, and then reopen it while keeping the Option and Command keys pressed. You can also try restoring your photo library from a backup. Aperture was not open at the time so I shut down then restarted my computer. The same Message Appered. Then I tried to rebuild the library by holding down the option and command key I tried all of the rebuilding options and when I went to rebuild it the same message opened in iphoto. Help me! I am a photographer with a website and need to get this up and running fast. I wanted to cunsult with Apple Support Communities before I make the trip out to the apple store.

Also when I went to finder to see it the library existed its now labled Iphoto library copy. I have a time capsule and restored it back by a day and it didn't work I still got the same message in aperture and Iphoto.

I can not open my iPhoto Library in iPhoto or Aperture

Hi,
I am running iPhoto 9.4.3 and Aperture 3.4.5. I first had all my pictures in iPhoto, but swithced to Aperture a few years back, importing my iPhoto library to Aperture, and in the process I moved the library to an external harddrive.
Now I have rebooted my old iMac 2008 (OS X 10.8.5) and am attempting to start using iPhoto again, with the old library, but when I open iPhoto and try to choose which library to use, the only to librarys I can choose from are the new Aperture and iPhoto libraries that come with the program. I can see my old library on the external harddrive, but I can not highlight it. I have tried to open the library in Aperture also, but have the same problem there.
What am I doing wrong?

Ok, I had a closer look under diskutility... My EHD is showing on 2 lines... the top line says:
3TB WE My Book 1130... Format: Mac OS Extended
But the lower line says:
MY BOOK ...Format MS-DOS (FAT)
And when I go into Finder and click "Show info" on MY BOOK, it also says MS-DOS... so I must have done something wrong when I formatted the disk.... Can you help?

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