Aperture Keywords From iPhoto

1) I have imported my iPhoto Library
2) I realize that iPhoto keywords are distinct from apeture keywords and I need to select photos by keywords.
a) I have selected the old iphoto keyword via the smart setting library. The old photos appear. I then add new aperture keyword. (ie Sally Smith). This is easy.
b) Then I delete the old iPhoto keyword via the most annoying thing of creating the keyword (see previous posts). Then shift enter the keyword away (see previous posts).
c) HERE IS THE QUESTION. But it remains in the "not so" smart keyword library. Now I will have twice the number of keywords and have to remember which are old dead iPhoto keywords. I tried the plist trick (no luck). What do i do? Stay with iPhoto. This kind of *****.
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Quad G5 with 30 inch Mac OS X (10.4.4) twin 500 gig drives

I suspect that Aperture writes the keywords to the images or their version copies. to get rid of the old iPhoto keywords, make sure that they're no longer in the Keyword HUD and then rebuild the Aperture database. this will probably remove unused keywords from the filter list.
while launching Aperture, press and hold option-command.

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In Aperture use the File -> Import -> iPhoto Library
File -> Import -> Show iPhoto Browser
Use the first to get the entire Library, the second to get selected elements.
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Create an Export Preset in Aperture and be sure to include the metadata. Export from Aperture to the Finder, import into iPhoto.
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Claire
You're on the right track, but you'll need iPhoto Library Manager to do it. It's the only way to move files from one library to another while maintaining metadata. So, assign all the keywords to one pic, then transfer it to the new library using iPLM. It's a $20 shareware, and all round good app. You can read about it here:
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Hi Terence,
thanks for the reply, but I've already regenerated all my previous (the entire library), but with no success.. I still continue to see a blank icon browsing the Aperture Library from iPhoto.
But I see that each time I enter in Aperture, it alway restart processing library (but only for some photos).. when it finish that process, I close Aperture and when I enter in it again, it restart processing the same photos.. again and again and again
Any other suggestion?
Regards.
Andrea

Keywords from iPhoto

I couuld not locate a clear answer in the archives even though I suspect it is there.
I transferred my major library from iPhoto to Aperture. No problems.
In the keyword file, all the keywords that I use are under an iPhoto triangle, and when clicked, do show with the number of images used for each..
There are also a great many other keywords showing which are possibly keywords I had once assigned or the names of "rolls" from old versions of iPhoto, as well as many which Aperture assigned (Stock, Weddings). I do not use these. There are no amounts assigned to these. Are these used for anything other than old Keywords? May I discard without having future problems?
There are also "iPhoto Converted" and "iPhoto Edited" which I understand, but do not need to keep as a Keyword. Can I discard?
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asuch

Wes:
Did you copy your iPhoto 6 library over to the new computer, put in the Pictures folder and then launched iPhoto 08 so it would open and convert the library? If not then that's why you didn't retain the keywords. If you imported the V6 library or just the Originals folder into the new V8 library you would not retain keywords, comments, titles, or ratings. All that might be the same would be the rolls/events.
Do you Twango?
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've written an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 08 libraries. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.

Move existing Aperture photos (from iPhoto) to Aperture's library's library

Hi,
I recently moved from iPhoto to Aperture. I did something wrong tho, since now most of my photos in Aperture are still in iPhoto's library (all of these show the "iPhoto Original" keyword).
I want to have them all in my Aperture's library, but I put many time on Aperture's organization and don't want to have to import all from the very beginning. Is there any way I can move those files still in iPhoto's library folder to Aperture's library? I plan to uninstall iPhoto after that, that's why I want all photos in Aperture's library.
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If the image is shown in Aperture, the image is in Aperture's Library.
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Right-click an image. Does "Show in Finder" appear in the pop-up menu? If so, then your image has a Referenced Master (Referenced Masters are located outside the Aperture Library (the image is in the Library and has a pointer to its Master which is outside the Library)). If not, your image has a Managed Master (the image, the pointer, and the Master are all inside the Aperture Library.
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Since you (seem to) want to have all of your images' Masters be Managed (= inside the Aperture Library), simply select all images and execute the command "File→Consolidate Masters". You can confirm that this has been done by using a Filter set to show all images with Referenced Masters. It should show no images.
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Apologies if this has been asked before, but I can't find anything this topic...
I've just upgraded to Aperture 3. In Aperture 2, my way of working was to store RAW images in iPhoto and import as referenced files into Aperture. This was very straightforward. Now, I have 2 problems:
1 - I can't see how to import referenced images from iPhoto. If I use the import command, my iPhoto images don't show up in the list of locations to import from; if I use the iPhoto browser in Aperture and drag from that, it imports the file into the Aperture library rather than importing as a referenced file...
2 - If I import using the iPhoto browser, not only does it import into the Aperture library, it imports the jpeg preview rather than the RAW file.
The only way I can see to get the RAW file into Aperture is to find it in the Finder then import into the Aperture library. This seems excessively long-winded and also duplicates the file, using up extra disk space.
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I have not imported an iPhoto library because my workflow is to to use Aperture for storing and archiving Raw files and iPhoto for exported jpegs.
However the instruction in the Aperture 3 PDF Manual are as follows:-
To import your iPhoto library
Choose File > Import > iPhoto Library.
Select the iPhoto library in the dialog that appears.
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• To import the files as referenced images stored in their current location on your hard disk: Choose “In their current location” from the Store Files pop-up menu.
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• To store imported masters as referenced images in the Pictures folder on your hard disk: Choose Pictures from the Store Files pop-up menu.
• To store imported masters as referenced images in a location other than the Pictures folder: Choose “Choose” from the Store Files pop-up menu and select a folder. Choose “No folder” from the Subfolders pop-up menu to specify that the files be stored as separate, individual files in the selected folder. You can also specify that Aperture create a hierarchy of subfolders with specific folder names to hold your files.
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This extract is from page 169. Perhaps it clarifies and identifies a step you have omitted.
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i am goin to point both of you in the same direction as i just did for another poster.
http://homepage.mac.com/bagelturf/aparticles/aparticles.html
he has FANTASTIC articles on use and setup of aperture ... rather than re-explain everything he has, your best bet at this point (imho) is to read over what he has ... digest that ... and then come back here for more details ...
another solution the aperture pro training book by Luna and Long is basically an intensive course in a book ...
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Pro-Training-Aperture-1-5/dp/0321496620
here is the o'reilly you speak of ...
http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/aperture/

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As a new user of Aperture i do not understand the issues relating to transfer of an existing iPhoto library to Aperture.
I do understand that Aperture does use an existing iPhoto library without the need for migration, but i did a test and migrated the libary to Aperture and found that the detail was the same in both libraries but the file size went from. 28GB too 49GB, i would e greatful if i could get an explanation as to
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i do not understand the issues relating to transfer of an existing iPhoto library to Aperture.
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As to your other questions: how did you Migrate the Library to Aperture?
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Help! I spent a long time assigning keywords to all 11,000 photos in Iphoto. When I imported the photos to Elements 10, the keywords were lost. Is there any way to transfer them?
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Do you also have hierarchical keyword lists? I see only a few of my Aperture keywords in iPhoto, and "Manage my keywords" only shows the top level keywords.
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To be able to use the same keywords in iPhoto and Aperture you seem to be restricted to the top level keywords in the hierarchical keywords list right now.
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Does any one have any recommendations on which combination works best?

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Aperture recognises the iPhoto Library and there is a command there to facilitate migration from iPhoto to Aperture. This process captures your Events, Albums, keywords and so forth.
Also, with the Aperture -> Show iPhoto Library command you can import individual photos over to Aperture.
From iPhoto the Show Aperture Library command means you can access the Previews in your Aperture Library.
At heart, these three applications do the same job. Aperture and Lightroom are firmly focussed on the Pro user shooting high volumes of RAW. They both offer distinct advantages over iPhoto in processing RAW, no matter what the volume.
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In looking at the images in Aperture's iPhoto Browser, the times given underneath each image are wrong - but within iPhoto they are correct. When I drag these images into Aperture from the iPhoto Browser, the times are wrong but keywords and ratings transfer correctly.
According to Aperture's metadata, both the EXIF date and the IPTC date created are wrong. The dates are correct when viewed in the application EXIF viewer.
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