Aperture Library from iPhoto

As a new user of Aperture i do not understand the issues relating to transfer of an existing iPhoto library to Aperture.
I do understand that Aperture does use an existing iPhoto library without the need for migration, but i did a test and migrated the libary to Aperture and found that the detail was the same in both libraries but the file size went from. 28GB too 49GB, i would e greatful if i could get an explanation as to
1. Why the file size grow by so much
2. As Aperture uses an existing iPhoto library is there any benefit in migrating the library
3. If migrating the library helps is there a way of then sliming down the file size
Thanks in advance

i do not understand the issues relating to transfer of an existing iPhoto library to Aperture.
There are no issues as there is no transfer. Just open the Library with Aperture. Done.
As to your other questions: how did you Migrate the Library to Aperture?
And no, there is no benefit in migrating the Library.

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I need to import in iPhoto some photo of my Aperture's Library, but when I open it from iPhoto I can see all the pictures exept the lastest that I've imported in the Aperture Library (that have been taken with a Canon EOS 550D with RAW format): I see a blank icon (that can I select and import in my iPhoto library) instead its preview.
In Aperture the Canon EOS 550D RAW format works correctly, but I can't see the preview of the image in the browser under iPhoto.
Can anyone help me solving this problem?
I have Snow Leopard 10.6.7 (with all the updates) and the lastest versione of both iPhoto and Aperture.
Thanks.
Andrea

Hi Terence,
thanks for the reply, but I've already regenerated all my previous (the entire library), but with no success.. I still continue to see a blank icon browsing the Aperture Library from iPhoto.
But I see that each time I enter in Aperture, it alway restart processing library (but only for some photos).. when it finish that process, I close Aperture and when I enter in it again, it restart processing the same photos.. again and again and again
Any other suggestion?
Regards.
Andrea

Importing into Aperture 3 from iPhoto as referenced files

Apologies if this has been asked before, but I can't find anything this topic...
I've just upgraded to Aperture 3. In Aperture 2, my way of working was to store RAW images in iPhoto and import as referenced files into Aperture. This was very straightforward. Now, I have 2 problems:
1 - I can't see how to import referenced images from iPhoto. If I use the import command, my iPhoto images don't show up in the list of locations to import from; if I use the iPhoto browser in Aperture and drag from that, it imports the file into the Aperture library rather than importing as a referenced file...
2 - If I import using the iPhoto browser, not only does it import into the Aperture library, it imports the jpeg preview rather than the RAW file.
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I have not imported an iPhoto library because my workflow is to to use Aperture for storing and archiving Raw files and iPhoto for exported jpegs.
However the instruction in the Aperture 3 PDF Manual are as follows:-
To import your iPhoto library
Choose File > Import > iPhoto Library.
Select the iPhoto library in the dialog that appears.
Choose a location for the imported images by doing one of the following:
• To store imported masters in the Aperture library: Choose “In the Aperture Library” from the Store Files pop-up menu.
• To import the files as referenced images stored in their current location on your hard disk: Choose “In their current location” from the Store Files pop-up menu.
Tip: Choosing“Intheircurrentlocation”isrecommended.Whenyouchoosethisoption, Aperture refers to the original files in their current location and does not have to duplicate the files, which doubles the disk space needed to store the files. For more information about referenced images, see What Are Managed Images and Referenced Images?
• To store imported masters as referenced images in the Pictures folder on your hard disk: Choose Pictures from the Store Files pop-up menu.
• To store imported masters as referenced images in a location other than the Pictures folder: Choose “Choose” from the Store Files pop-up menu and select a folder. Choose “No folder” from the Subfolders pop-up menu to specify that the files be stored as separate, individual files in the selected folder. You can also specify that Aperture create a hierarchy of subfolders with specific folder names to hold your files.
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This extract is from page 169. Perhaps it clarifies and identifies a step you have omitted.
AW.

Accessing aperture library from the finder

I'm new to aperture and struggling. I upload my photos but can't see my aperture library from the finder. I shoot in RAW and want to do a batch save as jpegs. I'd like to create a folder within my project but it won't see my aperture library. I'm trying to read through the manual but can't seem to find what I'm looking for. Help!

As I learned, this only uploads the previews, not the raw file that you see when using aperture. This means any modifications you've made won't be applied.
Sorry, but that's wrong. The previews contain ALL modifications you've applied as long as they're up to date. That's pretty much the point of previews.
I've seen a lot of confusion these past few days regarding the Aperture workflow. I think it's pretty important to understand how Aperture works before jumping in. As Terence mentioned the whole point of the app is to manage everything within its database. Forget the Finder. Even if you use referenced files - as I do - Aperture still should be command central.
There's also quite a few posts that seem to mistake RAW for an actual format. It isn't. RAW is just sensor data that needs to be interpreted. It's very powerful because it allows much wider editing of parameters that would otherwise be hard to modify after the fact (exposure, white balance etc). But you don't want to upload RAW files to the web because 1) they wouldn't be compatible and 2) they'd either look pretty dull or be interpreted differently from what you intended.
I hope I'm not coming off like a blowhard here. But reading the manual and understanding the why and how of Aperture (or any other DAM) is the only way to get the most out of your purchase. This isn't iPhoto with more stuff - there's a very different paradigm here.

Insufficient disk space when opening Aperture library in iPhoto

I just created a fresh library with 3000 photos (6GB) in Aperture. I then tried to open that library using iPhoto by holding down the Option key on launch but got an alert: "Insufficient Disk Space: There is not enough free space on the disk that contains this library to upgrade it. It is estimated that you need at least 6GB of free space."
OK, I only have 4GB of free space on my HD. But why would iPhoto need to upgrade the library to begin with? I'm using the latest version of both Aperture (3.5.1) and iPhoto (9.5.1) and I thought they use the exact same library. And even if iPhoto needs to upgrade the library, why would it need an extra 6GB when the Aperture library is only 6GB? If opening the library in iPhoto results in increasing the library size from 6GB to 12GB, I'd rather not do it. Am I missing something?

OK, I only have 4GB of free space on my HD. But why would iPhoto need to upgrade the library to begin with? I'm using the latest version of both Aperture (3.5.1) and iPhoto (9.5.1) and I thought they use the exact same library. And even if iPhoto needs to upgrade the library, why would it need an extra 6GB when the Aperture library is only 6GB?
iPhoto and Aperture are using the same library, but Aperture has preference settings, that prevent previews or faces from being created. If you open an Aperture library in iPhoto, the library size may increase, since iPhoto may be creating files, that Aperture did not create. Probably iPhoto's estimated was too pessimistic, but opening an Aperture library can increase the library size.
But photograhis is right. You should not be running any applications at all, if you do not have at least 20GBof free disk space.

How can I import my Aperture Library in iPhoto ?

Hi guys,
I use Aperture 3 since 2 years but I would like to go back to iPhoto ('11) because I don't need all the options in Aperture...
I know that I can easily import photos from the Aperture library to iPhoto but the "normal" method lose all the faces...
Do you fnow an other solution to keep all datas in iPhoto (photos, faces and places) ?
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Aperture and iPhoto are entirely different applications that work in very different ways.
The only communication between the two is as follows:
Aperture is able to parse the iPhoto Library to allow it to import the contents while stacking the Originals and Modified versions, preserving metadata and so forth.
Aperture can share its Previews with the iLife apps, including iPhoto.
That's it.
So, specifically, what interaction there is between the two is designed to facilitate migration from iPhoto to the more powerful app. After that, iPhoto has exactly the same relationship to the Aperture Library as, say, Pages or iMovie.
iPhoto has no knowledge of, and knows nothing of how the Aperture Library works. It cannot read the Aperture library.
If you want to revert to iPhoto:
1. Export all your Masters
2. Export all your Versions
You can write the metadata to the files on export - check out the Export presets. Note that you cannot export Faces. There is no convention for sharing Faces. The best you can do is use Faces as a basis for keywording.
Import them into iPhoto. Note that there is no way to associate the masters with the versions in iPhoto, so you'll have apparent duplicates.
Regards
TD

Cannot open aperture library in iPhoto

I recently opened an old iPhoto library in Aperture. This changed the file extension, and presumably the file structure. Libraries are supposed to be interchangeable between the two apps, but now I get the following message when I try to open the libary in iPhoto: "To open this Aperture library in iPhoto, it first needs to be upgraded with Aperture 3.3 or later. Quit iPhoto and then open your library in Aperture to upgrade it." I'm running Aperture 3.4.5 and iPhoto 9.4.3. I've repaired permissions and rebuilt the database (and whatever the third option was when Aperture is launched with Command-Option). Any suggestions?

Stephen,
the problem is probably an inconsistent DateModelVersion.plist file in the Aperture Library.
If the library cannot be repaired, try to restore this file from your backup, from a time when the library could be opened in iPhoto. If you have Code installed, you can try to edit the file manually.
see joeholmes post: Re: Help! Can't Open Aperture Library (Requires iPhoto 9.4?)
or the manual fix by jashman: Re: Help! Can't Open Aperture Library (Requires iPhoto 9.4?)

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How can I migrate an Aperture library from an external HDD with Mac OS Extended (Journaled, Encrypted) format?
I used to store my pictures on an external hard drive using the latest version of Aperture. Now I tried migrating my Aperture library to Photos. However, after a short moment an error message popped up telling me that "Photos was unable to make a copy of your library before preparing it. Photos does not have the necessary permissions...".
My external HDD doesn't need any permission repairs nor is the system prohibited to read from or write to it.
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My guess is that the encryption is the problem for the new app.

I am changing to a larger hard drive on my Mac. Can I copy the Aperture library from my backup disk running Time Machine without loosing anything?

I am installing a larger harddrive on my Mac. Can I copy the Aperture library from my backup disk running Time Machine without loosing anything? I am getting help migrating everything else on to the new harddrive, but since copying the 350Gb Aperture library takes a lot of time, I am planning to do that part myself.

I found the following information on Time Machine help about restoring Aperture library from TM
Restoring Your Aperture System
If you buy a new computer or use another system at a different location and want access to the Aperture library, you can install Aperture and then transfer the library from your vault (on your backup disk) to the other computer. If you experience equipment failure or other unexpected events, such as fire or weather-related damage to your equipment, you can easily restore the entire library to your new computer from a backup disk.
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Restoring Your Aperture System
If you buy a new computer or use another system at a different location and want access to the Aperture library, you can install Aperture and then transfer the library from your vault (on your backup disk) to the other computer. If you experience equipment failure or other unexpected events, such as fire or weather-related damage to your equipment, you can easily restore the entire library to your new computer from a backup disk.
HideTo restore the entire library from an external backup disk
If you buy a new computer or use another system at a different location and want access to the Aperture library, you can install Aperture and then transfer the library from your vault (on your backup disk) to the other computer. If you experience equipment failure or other unexpected events, such as fire or weather-related damage to your equipment, you can easily restore the entire library to your new computer from a backup disk.
HideTo restore the entire library from an external backup disk
Connect the hard disk drive that contains the most up-to-date vault to your computer and open Aperture.
Choose File > Vault > Restore Library.The Restore Library dialog appears.
Choose the vault you want to use to restore your library from the Source Vault pop-up menu.If the vault doesn’t appear in the Source Vault pop-up menu, choose Select Source Vault from the Source Vault pop-up menu, navigate to the vaults location in the Select Source Vault dialog, then click Select.
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How do I get my existing photo library from iPhoto to Photoshop?

How do I get my existing photo library from iPhoto to Photoshop?

Hello MWWWB,
Unlike iPhoto, Photoshop is only an editor. It does not store or organize images. In iPhoto preferences, you can choose Photoshop as an editor. You will then get a choice when you double click on an iPhoto thumbnail to use iPhoto or Photoshop to make edits. But Photoshop does not have a library to store images like iPhoto.
You may want to use Adobe Bridge or Lightroom to help name and organize your pictures. You can Export your iPhoto Library to a folder and manage the exported images there.
Personally, I hate the arcane manner iPhoto stores and organizes images. I use it only for photos from my iPhone.

How to view aperture library from another computer on network?

Hi,
I'd like to simply view (not edit) my aperture library from another computer on my home network. The aperture library resides on a mac pro, and I'd like to see the images on a macbook pro to show family members. On the surface, this seems like a simple concept - as Apple TV can do this with home sharing. Further, itunes can share it's library in this manner. Is this possible?
thank you,
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You don't mention which OS you're using and I understand that Lion has changed some of the sharing features but what you are looking to do is doable.
Be warned that accessing an Aperture library over a network is slow and definitely not something you want to do if editing except in an emergency and you want to make triple sure that only one user is accessing the library at a time. But I regularly access libraries over wireless when I'm to lazy to walk across the house and need to check somthing out.
If you are using Snow Leopard go into System preferences->Sharing and tune on file sharing on the the Mac Pro. If you have the same user name on both systems you should have no problem accessing the library from the MBP.
If you're on Lion, you'l need to lok up how to enable file sharing. I haven't swithced so I can;r help you there.
good luck

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I have a Firewire Drobo, which I love, and I use Aperture on my Mac. I currently have my primary Aperture Library (~125GB) on my Drobo. I have been experiencing an issue with slowness when opening my Aperture library from my Drobo. It takes several minutes (5-6) to open my library from the Drobo and am wondering if 1) others are experiencing excessive slowness when opening their Aperture Library from a Drobo and/or 2) if I would be better off just using a regular firewire drive for my Aperture library and using the Drobo just for my Aperture Vault and not my primary library?
It seems that this issue has gradually gotten worse as my library has increased in size. When the library was 50GB it seemed to open pretty quickly, but the bigger it gets the longer it takes to open. Once it is open it is fairly snappy, although if I am reading and writing a lot of data to the Drobo simultaneously I will see some slowness sometimes. This machine is the current generation of 24" iMac with 4GB of RAM. My Drobo is filled with 3 - 1TB Western Digital Green drives and 1 500GB WD Green drive.
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I don't think the FW is the problem, although it might be
I was keeping my Aperture library on a Drobo and ALL of the images were referenced and not managed.
And like you, it became progressively slower (5-10-15-20 minutes to open) and then became corrupted on more than one occasion. After the last episode and after substantial heroic efforts (48 hours of rebuilding), I was able to recover the library. Once recovered, I moved the library to my internal drive and left all of my images as referenced on the Drobo. The library since the move has been fine. I have occasional images which appear to become corrupted on the Drobo (not recognizable by Aperture or Photoshop or Preview), that fortunately, I simply replace the RAW file in the appropriate location from a back up copy of the RAW file and everything is fine.
This has been discussed with Data Robotics and after several weeks I still don't have an answer from an email I sent providing all the requested information.
Bottom Line. Place your referenced your images on Drobo, but make sure you have at least two other additional backup of your original datafiles. Move your library to some other drive immediately!!
My suspicion is Aperture and Drobo RAID system do not work well together and Data Robotics has been disappointing in terms of technical response to inquiries.
I have two Drobo boxes and they are used daily, but at this point I always, always always have at least two back ups on whatever is on the Drobo. My dream was it would be a highly or super reliable copy of my data, but at this point, I really do not consider them to be even a reliable copy, given the random corruption issues and Data Robotics poor support.
I am investigating alternative large data systems and the most interesting thus far is the WD Share gigabit system. Data Robotics says that they only certify one other FW drive and it HAS to be a Data Robotic drive and not another vendors. FW is supposed to support up to 16 devices according to Apple so there is a huge disconnect. I do use several drives downstream from my 2nd Gen Drobo units, I mount/unmount religiously and have not had obvious problems with other drives.
Having said that, I have not had another corruption problem since December 26 or so, but I also have not looked at every RAW file of the 40,000 stored on the Drobo. I figure I will find more, but will replace them as I find them.
Regards, Steven

Transfer aperture library to iPhoto library

how to transfer aperture library to iphoto library?

If you have the latest version of iPhoto you can open the Aperture library with iPhoto. No transferring needed.

Can't open aperture library in iPhoto

When I try to open my Aperture library (v3.4.4) with iPhoto (v9.4.3), I get the following message and the application quits:
Aperture library needs to be upgraded.
To open this Aperture library in iPhoto, it first needs to be upgraded with Aperture 3.3...
Both iPhoto and Aperture worked properly with a shared library prior to installing the 3.4.4 Aperture update in mid-April 2013. Upon first launch of Aperture after the update, there was a message stating that the library needed to be upgraded. The upgrade completed succesfully, and Aperture has been running properly.
To remedy the problem, I have tried the following:
1) Repair Permissions of the Aperture library
2) Repair Database of the library
3) Rebuild Database of the library
4) Opening the iPhoto library with the menu command <Open Library in iPhoto> in Aperture (Same notice to upgrade the library appears)
My setup is:
- Latest 27" iMac w/ 3.2GHz Core i5, 16GB RAM
- OSX 10.8.3
- Aperture v3.4.4
- iPhoto v.9.4.3
- Aperture library is stored in the local hard drive in the Pictures folder
- iPhoto used to make print products only availble in iPhoto
I have searched the boards and have noticed people with similar symptoms but not the same circumstances.
Does anyone have a suggestion or solution?
Thank you.

Added:
Just in case you cannot find a backup of the Aperture Library that has been created with AP 3.4.4, make a current backup of your Aperture library and trash the file "DataModelVersion.plist". Then open your library in Aperture 3.4.4. Aperture creates a new version of this file, at least my experiments showed, that the file can be restored this way.

I am trying to import aperture library from macbook to new imac the import window sees the external harddrive but does nt see library. I can open library as a refernce library but cannot import onto hardrive as managable files Tried to do as a backeup t

I am trying to import aperture library from macbook to new imac the import window sees the external harddrive but does nt see library. I can open library as a refernce library but cannot import onto hardrive as managable files

I may be misreading what you are trying to do but you don't import libraries via the import window. You use File->Import->Library..
If this doesn't resolve your problem post back with more detail of what you are doing and what is happening.
regards

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