Aperture library restored from vault different size to original?

Hi, I tried to share an Aperture library between two user accounts and it's messed up the permissions such that I can't use it in either account.
Shortly before trying to do this I updated the Aperture vault I keep on an external USB drive.
I've been unable to restore the permissions on the original library so I put it in another folder and asked Aperture to restore from my up to date vault.
After some time Aperture restored it's library from the vault I keep on the external drive but it's about 4GB smaller. The original aperture lib with incorrect permissions is 100.54GB and the new lib is 96.5GB.
As far as I can tell the library that has been created from the vault is up to date, so why has it shrunk by 4GB? Has the process of rewriting it in one go saved it to the disk more efficiently?
Regards,
Dave.

The vault is smaller as it doesn't store thumbnails or previews, both of which take up a noticeable amount of space.
When you use the restored library, I'd expect the thumbnails will get automatically rebuilt. The previews may as well, so eventually it will fluff back up.

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I was having stability problems with 1.5 so I decided to back it out.
I backed up the app and library and then deleted them.
I installed all the various versions till I was back up to 1.1.2.
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sorry if this is redundant, but I couldn't locate the clear answer to this seemingly basic question:
if using a referenced library, what is the major difference/advantage of creating a vault versus a simple drag & drop copy of the aperture library onto an external HD?
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